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[Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard]

Is there plans to have this working in Linux? If not, Why not would be my question!

Truth be told i only have windows installed for gaming, everything else i use Crunchbang Linux personally but there's a vast array out there for all types of users. Most people use versions of Linux on there phones/tablets/net books without knowing, weather it be android or a specific version for a particular product i.e, Motorola ZN5 phone had a Linux OS and i loved that phone. Nokia N95 beater for me and battery life was so much better.

The end of microsoft bearing down on us, Directx isn't the god no more with the likes of steam and others looking seriously at the Linux platform and already have Beta trials, Microsoft is going to lose the last hold they have on people to stick with windows O/S. There sales of Windows 8 is a joke no matter what they want to boast, There sales ARE RUBBISH! They've used all there cards and have lost all credibility (if any) they ever had. Intel making broadwell a NON SOCKET processor locking out MB manufaturers and AMD's complete backing out on high end x86 leaves you with one choice in the PC domain, Intel! But they are under attack from lesser powered contenders such as ARM so intel's hold on the tech industry is coming to an end also.

There's many consoles/handheld s been designed by good/cleaver/innovative people who dont want you sign EOL's and all other jargon saying that you don't actually own what you have paid for and will be taken court yadda yadda yadda.

With improvements on Graphine chips always been made which will bring an instant minimum 100x boost to the most powerful systems Intel doesnt have a very bright future. With 3D printers that allow me to print what i want the patent rules are out of the window aint they. I mean, i just need to take a picture of something, Scan it in and print it. These things are now possible!

So my point of this wall of text? It's an insight to really whats going on in the tech industry (brief i admit) and that it is changing at rapid pace and the old ways that M$/INTEL/IBM used to manipulate the markets no longer work but its all they know. People are seeing alternatives to the old. So why make games windows exclusive anymore? I recon a lot of people duel boot with some sort of Linux system which they use productively and only use windows for what few programs you cant get in Linux. Theres many alternatives available to well liked programs from windows these days.

I don't know, i grew up with DOS before windows and had to learn. The problem today is people don't even know how they work AT ALL! but these things are a massive part of society. If you don't know how it works you shouldn't be allowed near them if you ask me :-) Do us all a favor!

BRING THIS GAME TO LINUX, THE TRULY FREE PLATFORM :-)

Edited by Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard, 07 December 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[Taryys]

Would be awesome, but it is not going to happen, since Microsoft owns the BT license.

I think that the devs have states this specifically in a Reddit Q&A.

[Clay Pigeon]

Linux on the desktop being viable for general public use, as real as ancient aliens.

Edited by Clay Pigeon, 07 December 2012 - 06:54 AM.

[Kunae]

Also, to work on Linux they'd have to develop an OpenGL option, which I doubt they have the resources to do.

Edited by Kunae, 07 December 2012 - 06:50 AM.

[Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard]

Taryys, on 07 December 2012 - 06:48 AM, said:

Would be awesome, but it is not going to happen, since Microsoft owns the BT license.

I think that the devs have states this specifically in a Reddit Q&A.

See comment about M$, they wont be around in 5 years! and IF, that's a big IF, They wont be in the same capacity they have now. I don't think you realise the hole Microsoft is in. They've just raised the price to there 'locked in' consumers MASSIVELY cause there bleeding so much money. This is a 'quick' fix but them customers start looking at ways to get out of M$'s clause and you know what, Options are now available. Many indeed and all cheaper and all with no 'lock downs' like M$'s stuff. That leaves there Xbox brand.... Well, Sony are over before M$ dies it seems so they got that market but AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, tHERES MANY NEW CONSOLES/HANDHELDS IN DEV (sorry caps <<<<) that will be competing in this domain soon. All vastly cheaper, more configurable and open to develop on.

Peoples IP's collapse and patents have little reliance in modern society. It's the old hat holding onto the only way they know how. Bit like polotics then!

Linux will rise, and if not that, Something new :-)

Edited by Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard, 07 December 2012 - 07:10 AM.

[Alois Hammer]

Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard, on 07 December 2012 - 06:45 AM, said:

Is there plans to have this working in Linux? If not, Why not would be my question!

Because the IP's owner, Microsoft, put "only on Windows systems" into the contract allowing PGI to develop this game:

Strum Wealh, on 07 December 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

PGI's specific sub-license to the MechWarrior franchise does not extend to non-Microsoft platforms (a restriction put in place by Microsoft, who is still the ultimate license holder for the MechWarrior video games); listen to Byran Ekman (PGI Creative Director and Co-Founder) explain the rights situation in the "No Guts, No Galaxy" podcast #44 (starting at the 25:24 mark).

[Krazyjim]

Alois Hammer, on 07 December 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

Because the IP's owner, Microsoft, put "only on Windows systems" into the contract allowing PGI to develop this game:

THIS. Microsoft is the IP holder, they will not allow Linux or Mac compatibility.

/thread

[Blark]

Clay Pigeon, on 07 December 2012 - 06:50 AM, said:

Linux on the desktop being viable for general public use, as real as ancient aliens.

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

The only thing you need windows for is gaming (sadly).

[Alois Hammer]

Krazyjim, on 07 December 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

THIS. Microsoft is the IP holder, they will not allow Linux or Mac compatibility.

/thread

But the OP says Microsoft is going to collapse under its own weight and then Linux will rule the world.

OF course, I've been hearing that same [REDACTED] since at least Windows 95, too...I guess if you predict something long enough, eventually you'll be right.

[Lin Shai]

Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard, on 07 December 2012 - 06:45 AM, said:

Is there plans to have this working in Linux? If not, Why not would be my question!

Because they (PGI) don't write the engine.

And CryEngine3 will probably never be ported to linux.

Alois Hammer, on 07 December 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:

Because the IP's owner, Microsoft, put "only on Windows systems" into the contract allowing PGI to develop this game:

Citation please? To date the only restriction has been "No PS3" (which was the problem with getting funding for MW5, and why we have the POS F2P game).

Edited by Lin Shai, 07 December 2012 - 08:52 AM.

[Tolkien]

Blark, on 07 December 2012 - 08:44 AM, said:

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

The only thing you need windows for is gaming (sadly).

Blark, I have in the past built computers for family members and put linux on them.

Long story short they later wanted to add a webcam distro X version Y didn't support it, so we upgraded them to distro X version Y+1. The webcam worked after about an hour painfully walking them through terminal commands, but great news it broke something in the ide system so the DVD drive wouldn't show up anymore.

Brilliant!

Linux will be a consumer OS when it has removed terminal and the need for it. Not before then.

[Lin Shai]

Tolkien, on 07 December 2012 - 09:02 AM, said:

Long story short they later wanted to add a webcam distro X version Y didn't support it, so we upgraded them to distro X version Y+1. The webcam worked after about an hour painfully walking them through terminal commands, but great news it broke something in the ide system so the DVD drive wouldn't show up anymore.

I'm assuming by "in the past" you mean like ... 10 years ago. Seriously, it's rarely like that any more with the "mainstream" linux distros. I could put Ubuntu on a machine and give it to my wife or parents, and they'd be able to use it just fine.

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Linux will be a consumer OS when it has removed terminal and the need for it. Not before then.

Odd, I find my OSX command prompt handy at times. (And no, OSX isn't "linux" but it's a *nix kernel with a real GUI on top of it). And my android devices seem to work pretty well (that is linux).

I don't run Linux on a desktop anymore because ... well, my current job supplies me with a Mac Book Pro. But I literally haven't used windows for anything but games for going on 10 years. I call it my "Wintendo" machine.

[Matthew Craig]

There have been reports of the game running ok through Wine have you tried that?

[Alois Hammer]

Lin Shai, on 07 December 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

Citation please? To date the only restriction has been "No PS3" (which was the problem with getting funding for MW5, and why we have the POS F2P game).

Strum Wealh, on 07 December 2012 - 05:23 AM, said:

PGI's specific sub-license to the MechWarrior franchise does not extend to non-Microsoft platforms (a restriction put in place by Microsoft, who is still the ultimate license holder for the MechWarrior video games); listen to Byran Ekman (PGI Creative Director and Co-Founder) explain the rights situation in the "No Guts, No Galaxy" podcast #44 (starting at the 25:24 mark).

Get it this time around?

[Volthorne]

OP seems to have missed out on the memo that Microsoft still owns the vast majority of the market for computers. Don't beleive me? Here's a link to the current % of users on what OS that have visited w3schools.com over the last 10 years.

[Tolkien]

Lin Shai, on 07 December 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

I'm assuming by "in the past" you mean like ... 10 years ago. Seriously, it's rarely like that any more with the "mainstream" linux distros. I could put Ubuntu on a machine and give it to my wife or parents, and they'd be able to use it just fine.



Odd, I find my OSX command prompt handy at times. (And no, OSX isn't "linux" but it's a *nix kernel with a real GUI on top of it). And my android devices seem to work pretty well (that is linux).

I don't run Linux on a desktop anymore because ... well, my current job supplies me with a Mac Book Pro. But I literally haven't used windows for anything but games for going on 10 years. I call it my "Wintendo" machine.

Surprisingly this wasn't the distant past, this was back in 2006/2007 with then current releases of a popular distro (I won't say which, since a gang of wild neckbeards will descend on any distro choice as being 'wrong').

Regarding terminal on OSX being handy, that's fair. Generally though OSX has enough polish that you don't need the terminal, where trying to attach a webcam needed it in the linux case. How dare my family try to video chat.

[verybad]

I think anyone wanting this on Linux needs to contact Crytex. They make the engine. The engine is a direct X engine. It is utterly ridiculous to think, expect, or hope that this game will be ported to Linux.

They would lose money doing it in addition, as the market for people using Linux on their personal computers is...not large.

It is also NOT going onto OSX. A developer has already directly said this. (I forget where, but I'm certain of this.)

Edited by verybad, 07 December 2012 - 09:55 AM.

[Vlad Ward]

Matthew Craig, on 07 December 2012 - 09:19 AM, said:

There have been reports of the game running ok through Wine have you tried that?

^ What he said.

See below:
http://mwomercs.com/...e-in-wine-1516/

[Lin Shai]

Tolkien, on 07 December 2012 - 09:47 AM, said:

Surprisingly this wasn't the distant past, this was back in 2006/2007 with then current releases of a popular distro (I won't say which, since a gang of wild neckbeards will descend on any distro choice as being 'wrong').

Regarding terminal on OSX being handy, that's fair. Generally though OSX has enough polish that you don't need the terminal, where trying to attach a webcam needed it in the linux case. How dare my family try to video chat.

Don't get me wrong ... I don't think you'll see Linux on the general desktop any time soon, but I do think these days it has to do with a lot of things other than technical hurdles.

What I do see is computing becoming commoditized ("Computing devices" vs. the traditional "desktop") and you're seeing linux on these devices. It's much easier when, like OSX/iOS/Android, you're not trying to support every piece of hardware in existence.

Personally I prefer OSX for daily use on a desktop/laptop, but when the choice is between Windows or Linux I go with Linux.

Edited by Lin Shai, 07 December 2012 - 10:13 AM.

[Tolkien]

Lin Shai, on 07 December 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

Don't get me wrong ... I don't think you'll see Linux on the general desktop any time soon, but I do think these days it has to do with a lot of things other than technical hurdles.

What I do see is computing becoming commoditized ("Computing devices" vs. the traditional "desktop") and you're seeing linux on these devices. It's much easier when, like OSX/iOS/Android, you're not trying to support every piece of hardware in existence.

Personally I prefer OSX for daily use on a desktop/laptop, but when the choice is between Windows or Linux I go with Linux.

I follow your reasoning and mostly agree with it, but I think it still is a generation or five away from actually happening. Here's why: Draft your resume on your phone.... seriously go draft a resume on your phone.

When you can draft a resume on device X and don't feel like throwing it at a wall, it's ready to be a 'general purpose computing device'. Until then it's a specialized media consumption or communication terminal.