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[ShadowThunder77]

is it worth saving up for??

[ShadowThunder77]

im asking cause it has ECM and Beagle active probe allready on it

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

It's worth saving up for if you want a good Light Mech with ECM. It's tougher than that baby Commando and it's a "Light" Mech, unlike the Cicada.(Picking Cicada means the enemy will get +1 Medium instead of +1 Light. You might not want that.) The downside is the cost. It comes bundled with a PoS XL Engine you probably don't want. They're forcing you to pay for this junk in full up front when all you're going to do with it is throw it right back to the store after you get it. There's no reason to slot an XL on a Raven. With DHS/Endo/Ferro, I hit 35/35 with only 2 crit slots free. Unless that number is still somehow 6+, no reason to use an XL. But it'll probably never be the case on a 35 or heavier Mech.(Maybe on the Commando?)

Another downside is that a lot of its weapons are in its arms. You don't really need this on a small Mech because the torso actually turns faster than the arms. You also get stripped a lot like a chicken when strafe fighting, so expect to lose those wings a lot. The Cicada doesn't have this problem because it clutters all the guns in the torsos, meaning the arms are just little shields of armor that can be freely lost without consequence. I find arms are increasingly useful as you get slower, but decreasingly useful as you get faster. If that's something you care about, you might want to take the Cicada instead.

[ShadowThunder77]

so its not worth getting just cause of ECM??

[Ghogiel]

ShadowThunder77, on 14 December 2012 - 03:34 AM, said:

is it worth saving up for??

If you want the best light mech in the game right now. Then yeah.

Get it before they nerf it or fix the netcode.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

ShadowThunder77, on 14 December 2012 - 03:56 AM, said:

so its not worth getting just cause of ECM??

It's actually the only Raven worth using now, due to how OP ECM is and how any variant in an ECM roaster isn't worth using. I just said it has advantages and disadvantages vs the other choices. Commando seems pointless(as usual), but there's a tradeoff to be made whether you pick the 3L or Cicada. 3L can slot Streaks, meaning it might be effective against enemy Lights(and you can force Streak locks with ECM itself), and the enemy team will get +1 Light since you're a Light, so you'll have at least 1 target to gut. Cicada is a Medium, but the ECM variant has a Ballistic instead of missiles, which is easier to hit on Medium targets rather than Lights.(Enemy team will get +1 Medium instead)

[Artifex 28]

Raven 3L is considered the best light mech around currently. I have played more than 400 rounds with Raven 3L and it's just mad how much you can "pug stomp" with it.

It packs a punch, is super quick, agile and hard to hit for the sheer size. Miniscule arms and cockpit allow dropping armor from those locations. Beagle isn't that great though.

Edited by Artifex 28, 14 December 2012 - 04:02 AM.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Ghogiel, on 14 December 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

If you want the best light mech in the game right now. Then yeah.

Get it before they nerf it or fix the netcode.

^ That. Cicada is technically faster due to being able to easily run much better engines, but it's still a Medium.

[ShadowThunder77]

any medium or heavy mechs that come with ECMs already on them??

[Ghogiel]

Only 1 medium can mount ECM , cicada (I think 3M...?)

No heavies.

The D-DC atlas can mount ECM though.

Edited by Ghogiel, 14 December 2012 - 04:05 AM.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Artifex 28, on 14 December 2012 - 04:01 AM, said:

Raven 3L is considered the best light mech around currently. I have played more than 400 rounds with Raven 3L and it's just mad how much you can "pug stomp" with it.

It packs a punch, is super quick, agile and hard to hit for the sheer size. Miniscule arms and cockpit allow dropping armor from those locations. Beagle isn't that great though.

I'd actually suggest maxing the arms here, because a lot of your guns are there, and while strafing around like a little beak head chicken, your arms will eat a lot of the shots. Once you get a wing torn off here, you lose a lot of weapons(1 LA 2 RA, out of 5 total). My 3L has full armor everywhere except legs(6pts short of max), and that made a sizable difference in its brawling ability.

ShadowThunder77, on 14 December 2012 - 04:02 AM, said:

any medium or heavy mechs that come with ECMs already on them??

COM-2D(Commando)
RVN-3L(Raven)
CDA-3M(Cicada)
AS7-D-DC(Atlas)

[ShadowThunder77]

is picking a mech based purely on ECM a bad idea??

[KarrRadane]

ShadowThunder77, on 14 December 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

is picking a mech based purely on ECM a bad idea??

Not necessarily, especially if you are a team player. I join up as a associate with a clan that mixes it's layouts and mechs before a battle and the Raven ecm is always welcome.

Even when I go solo/pug and take the ecm, it can prove very useful if folks are talking to ech other in chat. Even if they are not, then you can have fun playing solo with that mech.

The xl engine is fine and allows fast speed and gives you added space for other stuff. Take off the narc and boost your armour and away you go.

The only downside that has already been mentioned, is that, it will change when the new patch comes out, as far as I understand (akin to the streakcat). But in my opinion it will still be useful.

Go for it and enjoy it's beauty for now.

Edited by KarrRadane, 14 December 2012 - 04:23 AM.

[ShadowThunder77]

are u talking bout knockdowns/collisions??

[Rifter]

ShadowThunder77, on 14 December 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

is picking a mech based purely on ECM a bad idea??

No its why i bought my commando 2D, well that and its less than 2 mil and all the other ECM mechs are 5 mil+.

[ShadowThunder77]

since owned mechs make more C-bills than trial mechs should i start with a Commando or Jenner??

BTW if i pick commando it will be the COM-2D variant

[random51]

ShadowThunder77, on 14 December 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

is picking a mech based purely on ECM a bad idea??

Raven 3L was the best raven before ECM. You don't pick the Raven solely because of ECM, you pick it over the Jenner now because of ECM.

ECM+StreakSRMs=you eat any other light without ECM for lunch. Your lag armor still works while theirs is compromised.

[ShadowThunder77]

since owned mechs make more C-bills than trial mechs should i start with a Commando or Jenner??

BTW if i pick commando it will be the COM-2D variant

[repete]

ShadowThunder77, on 14 December 2012 - 04:13 AM, said:

is picking a mech based purely on ECM a bad idea??

Only game in town.

[Rifter]

ShadowThunder77, on 14 December 2012 - 04:34 AM, said:

since owned mechs make more C-bills than trial mechs should i start with a Commando or Jenner??

BTW if i pick commando it will be the COM-2D variant

Owned mechs dont always make more though.

You dont need to pay to repair and rearm trials. If you load up on expensive equipment(xl engine, Artemis, FF armor) you can be facing 100k+ repair bills.

My founder jenner(which is as decked out as i can possibly make it) will run me 70-80k on a total loss where i get shot to hell and back and cored.

Some of my missle based heavy/assaults will run me 100k in ammo alone.