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[Desert Panther]

I feel cheated lol. I pledged for MWO in the beginning with this stupid Mech and I dont like it now, not because everyone says bad things about it but because THEY ARE RIGHT. It feels like the most expensive Atlas Mech and actually the most useless. At least I haven't activated my prmium yet.

[Chou Senwan]

I had MC from being a Founder, so I got the Atlas solely to get a quick XL 300 engine for my Jenner.

I liked it because I could pretend I was a Marauder with 2 PPCs, 2 Medium Lasers, and an AC/5, with a 360 engine. It sucked, but I want my Marauder!

The ERPPC/ERPPC/Gauss combo works pretty well.

[SniperCzar]

Chou Senwan, on 11 December 2012 - 09:56 PM, said:

I had MC from being a Founder, so I got the Atlas solely to get a quick XL 300 engine for my Jenner.

I liked it because I could pretend I was a Marauder with 2 PPCs, 2 Medium Lasers, and an AC/5, with a 360 engine. It sucked, but I want my Marauder!

The ERPPC/ERPPC/Gauss combo works pretty well.

I was about to say, I've run an XL 360 with dual ERPPC, a Gauss, and dual AMS on my K before.

OP is crazy.

Running a dual AMS K with a buddy with a mirror loadout is practically easy mode. You can keep the entire team's LRM boats shooting at you from long range and they won't land more than 60 damage spread over you throughout the entire match. Meanwhile you can focus long range fire on everything that moves and stay relatively safe.

[Ursh]

The LRM boats that are increasingly rare? If you get into a sniper duel with a decent cataphract pilot, you'll get cored out long before they will.

[UnseenFury]

I was buying Atlas-K with MC since July, to get my hands fast on that xl300 <3 That's what it good for.

[SniperCzar]

Ursh, on 14 December 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

The LRM boats that are increasingly rare? If you get into a sniper duel with a decent cataphract pilot, you'll get cored out long before they will.

If I felt whimsical and wanted to run around countersniping, I'd take out my 2xERPPC+2xGauss Cataphract or 6 PPC Awesome and go headhunting. If I want to go anti-missileboat I'll take out my Atlas K. While I do often enjoy insta-popping heads at 1100m (see aforementioned Cataphract) and would probably do it all day if I was PUGing, if you ever fight premade vs. premade you'll see that there's such a thing as role warfare and each member of the group will likely have some kind of specialization. Saying a build is worthless because it can't specialize in the way you'd like isn't a solid argument. As it stands I have a solid build that can hold its own in most circumstances and provide an incredibly useful asset when I do run into a premade that has decent LRM support.

For the record -- I do have less insane all around builds I can pull when I have the urge, but crazy broken builds are just so much more FUN!

[BlakeAteIt]

Toss in a standard engine, ac 20, srm6, and fill it up with medlas and heat sinks.. Between that, max armor, and 2x AMS you have a mech that gets there, punches hard, and hangs around to keep punching. And that isn't hindered by ECM.

Just be sure to put the XL in some other mech.

[MavRCK]

The Atlas K is a good mech.

For the OP:

Please understand that in any game there is a META.

The meta is the ideal min-max of units with certain weapon layouts that effectively counters the most popular / common units and layouts AT THE MOMENT.

The key to the meta is the "AT THE MOMENT" condition - that is, the META constantly evolves and rotates as new units and weapons are added to the game. Eventually, you may even see a return to an "older" meta that counters the "newest" meta.

Hence, it's important to realize that every mech may be useful or "good" at one time or another.

This is why serious players have and have used almost every mech and every weapon in the MWO game... (or by analogy to League of Legends, pro players have and know every champion in the LoL game).



Hope this helps explains why there are very few "bad" mechs.

MavRCK

[ThePieMaker]

Atlas K is POS?
I tear fools apart with my K.
2 Large
2 Medium
Gauss Rifle
SRM 6
2xAMS
Standard 300
I don't take it anymore because LRM's suck. Once they get buffed and ECM is (maybe) a bit worse Ill dust it off!

[WardenWolf]

The AS7-K used to be great as an anti-missile platform, before ECM. The dual AMS was a God-send, especially if you had two close together, and it packs a decent (though reduced) set of hardpoints. I used it with dual ERPPCs + Gauss + dual medium lasers (for backup) and the dual AMS; really liked that setup, honestly.

Now that ECM is in-game, and particularly since it is overpowered, I have run nothing but my two AS7-D DC mechs (yes, that is right, I own two - one loadout needs endosteel, and I didn't want to pay every time to take it on / off).

Edited by WardenWolf, 15 December 2012 - 03:42 PM.

[MavRCK]

Paran01ac, on 14 December 2012 - 02:43 AM, said:

I was buying Atlas-K with MC since July, to get my hands fast on that xl300 <3 That's what it good for.

Smart player here.

I do this, too.

Plan your mech purchases and limit what XL engines you need to buy!

As Warden posted above, the dual ECM takes out 6 LRMs per volley each making this atlas a god in countering LRMs. As the META changes....

http://mwomercs.com/...e-meta-and-you/

Edited by MavRCK, 15 December 2012 - 03:57 PM.

[Mycrus]

Love my K

Xl360 / gauss rifle + case / lrm20 + artemis / 2 large pulse / 2 medium pulse / 2 ams

Engage mechs at long range with lrm + gauss
When enemy moves in to medium range add large pulse to the mix
At min range stop LRMs replace with medium pulse

Play it smart and you will enjoy this variant

Edited by Mycrus, 16 December 2012 - 03:15 AM.

[Vechs]

Mycrus, on 16 December 2012 - 03:14 AM, said:

Love my K

Xl360 / gauss rifle + case / lrm20 + artemis / 2 large pulse / 2 medium pulse / 2 ams

Engage mechs at long range with lrm + gauss
When enemy moves in to medium range add large pulse to the mix
At min range stop LRMs replace with medium pulse

Play it smart and you will enjoy this variant

Why did you bother with a CASE when you have an XL engine?

Also, why did you put an XL on an Atlas? That just seems like a really bad idea, considering how unfavorable the gun rack hitbox is.

And can you honestly tell me that 2nd AMS is worth giving up the possibility of having 2 UAC5, or 2 LRM20's, or 2 SRM6's?

Edited by Vechs, 16 December 2012 - 05:48 AM.

[Hex Pallett]

7-K is the one that deserves ECM. Imagine walking around in the open chainfiring nothing but 2x ERPPC.

[Ursh]

Oddly, one of the more successful configurations I found was running 3 large lasers and an lrm20. LRM was more for suppressing people than for doing much damage, while I maneuvered into range of the large lasers.

Anyways, I've finished grinding through the elite skills, and now I've got master unlocked on my ddc and rs, both of which are actually good.

Thanks for the responses and opinions. It's always informative to find out what builds work for different people.

[Mycrus]

Vechs, on 16 December 2012 - 05:47 AM, said:

Why did you bother with a CASE when you have an XL engine? Also, why did you put an XL on an Atlas? That just seems like a really bad idea, considering how unfavorable the gun rack hitbox is. And can you honestly tell me that 2nd AMS is worth giving up the possibility of having 2 UAC5, or 2 LRM20's, or 2 SRM6's?

Gauss + XL engine = death

Gauss + CASE + XL engine = Gauss gets taken out mech still survives - i've field tested this myself

XL engine on the K = to allow me to take the weapon loadout that i want... in general noobs, should not put XL engines in Atlas & in Hunchies

Why not 2UAC5 + SRMs ? = is what is in my DDC build...

I have the RS / D / DDC -- the next question is why buy the K at all? Because i can, and i treat mechs like pokemon (collect em all)

[Hex Pallett]

Mycrus, on 21 December 2012 - 01:34 AM, said:

Gauss + CASE + XL engine = Gauss gets taken out mech still survives - i've field tested this myself

There goes a bug.

[zhajin]

the only reason to buy the k is if you want to run with a 300xl, or want to use it for something else. Its a good value if you intend to buy the 300xl anyway. The only other advantage the K had was the dual ams, which is now trumped by the ddc's ecm.

[Joanna Conners]

Vechs, on 16 December 2012 - 05:47 AM, said:

Why did you bother with a CASE when you have an XL engine?

Also, why did you put an XL on an Atlas? That just seems like a really bad idea, considering how unfavorable the gun rack hitbox is.

And can you honestly tell me that 2nd AMS is worth giving up the possibility of having 2 UAC5, or 2 LRM20's, or 2 SRM6's?

XL is standard on the K variant. I agree with your question about CASE though.

[p00k]

zhajin, on 21 December 2012 - 08:23 AM, said:

the only reason to buy the k is if you want to run with a 300xl, or want to use it for something else. Its a good value if you intend to buy the 300xl anyway.

no it's not
it would be if it cost the same as the other atlases
but it doesn't. it's more expensive. 3-4mil more expensive.
an xl engine is 4.9mil
1-2mil difference is not worth gimping yourself with the hands down crappiest atlas
you can make that cash in half an evening