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#61 Windies

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:43 AM

Also can the game sustain itself through founder pack sales, current sales, and investor's money until they do eventually reach that point?

#62 Odins Fist

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:48 AM

The day after Christmas you will see a lot of "KIDS" showing up, I "GUARANTEE" it..
I also "GUARANTEE" they won't play more than a few days tops..... This is pretty much a "niche" game, and they won't understand it, or want to..
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Just the reality of the situation folks, don't blame me, blame reality....

#63 Bguk

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:49 AM

View PostOdins Fist, on 10 December 2012 - 11:48 AM, said:

The day after Christmas you will see a lot of "KIDS" showing up, I "GUARANTEE" it..
I also "GUARANTEE" they won't play more than a few days tops..... This is pretty much a "niche" game, and they won't understand it, or want to..
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Just the reality of the situation folks, don't blame me, blame reality....


I'd like to take this moment to thank reality then.

#64 Vassago Rain

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:50 AM

View PostWindies, on 10 December 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Also can the game sustain itself through founder pack sales, current sales, and investor's money until they do eventually reach that point?


If they fix the crippling issues, without a doubt. Goldvision and trialmechs are the biggest obstacles to getting new players into the game.

#65 Colaessus

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 11:57 AM

Whats the matter, you cant stomp newbies anymore so you cry about it?

#66 Pygar

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:07 PM

View PostWindies, on 10 December 2012 - 11:43 AM, said:

Also can the game sustain itself through founder pack sales, current sales, and investor's money until they do eventually reach that point?


Given how many hero or founders mechs I see crawling around battlefields, I would bet the game is doing great from a money standpoint- especially considering it is still early beta. (The Ilya Muromets one cost half the buy in cost of a full game, and I see those constantly)

#67 Odins Fist

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:10 PM

View PostPygar, on 10 December 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:


Given how many hero or founders mechs I see crawling around battlefields, I would bet the game is doing great from a money standpoint- especially considering it is still early beta.

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Early BETA...??? Ok...

#68 DaZur

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:15 PM

View PostPygar, on 10 December 2012 - 12:07 PM, said:


Given how many hero or founders mechs I see crawling around battlefields, I would bet the game is doing great from a money standpoint- especially considering it is still early beta. (The Ilya Muromets one cost half the buy in cost of a full game, and I see those constantly)


"A fool and their money (Or MC as it where...) are soon parted"

I'm a major fool because I absolutely love my Ilya... Worth every penny! :D

#69 Belorion

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 12:16 PM

The number of new players can be getting larger, but it would still seem like the number of new players per drop is smaller. For example if you have 100 players, and 50 players join then 1/3rd of the players in drops will be new. If you have 100000 players and 1000 join then only about % of the players in drops will be new. Far from being a bad sign, this is a good sign as it means player retention is on the rise.1

#70 MrPenguin

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:31 PM

View PostQuantumButler, on 10 December 2012 - 09:49 AM, said:

Do you seriously think it's a coincidence the counter vanished just around open beta time?

Oh, don't mind me.
I just wanted to get a chair so I could be comfortable.
Please, continue.

#71 Purlana

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:43 PM

We scared them all away...


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#72 KharnZor

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 01:57 PM

View PostElkarlo, on 10 December 2012 - 07:49 AM, said:

MWO dead. PGI has lost lot of money.


Oh lawd. just stop pls. The end of the world isnt for a few more days.

#73 Barkem Squirrel

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:34 PM

I would not say scare. I new what I was getting into.

I looked at the releases this summer, but just looked at it again since the founders program ended. One week earlier and I would have got it. Hunting season is a killer, especially on time.

So for the last few months I decided that for my limited time to read the posts, watch a few hours of video, prior to joining over the weekend. I remember what ECM was like in the board game.

Since then I have died many interesting ways, but it only took me three games to get a kill. So after a few hours I got out of the trial mechs and purchased one with Cbills. Now I just have to get better at running around then focusing on targeting. Then the my little bird will be running around. After that it is more mechs.

I was use to LRM boats many games and years ago, but I did prefer the lasers, auto cannons and a few flights of LRMs on the way in. The one problem I still have is movement vs torso twist and the shaking from hits. It could be the lag time, but just trying to fire with aiming is hard when you see a blurred screen or flickers of what is going on around you. Then get hit by auto cannons and missiles. It may be I will need to play in a way to avoid direct brawls due to lag from what I am seeing now.

When I hung back firing LRMs from a Hunchback it was easy, but spotting with a light was fun. The awesome with three ERPPC's was nice to try, until I caused the unwanted direct undivided attention of the remaining team members.

What I do not like is the cap runs where each team goes a different direction and no one fires a round. Then later larger maps.

All is in the future and when we get there it may be better, more space on the maps, larger groups, different objectives.

#74 Bloodgut

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:46 PM

Maybe match making is actually working and trial mechs are being paired with other trial mechs.

#75 Belorion

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 02:55 PM

Everyone might find this topic interesting: http://mwomercs.com/...h/page__st__160

in it Bryan addresses how they feel about their current growth as of Nov. 26th.

Since that thread has begun there are approx. 18395 more users for the forums which only represent some unknown percentage of players.

Seems fine to me.

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:37 AM

View PostThorn Hallis, on 10 December 2012 - 08:10 AM, said:

Anyone getting constantly the message "Failed to find a match"? No? So what the conspiracy theory about that then?


8v1 is not a "match". 7v8 is also, not a "match". Whether or not the message pops up instead of dumping me into a fu<ky game with an uneven number of players has nothing to do with whether or not "matches" are being found. Most of the time, they are not, for one reason or another.

View Poststjobe, on 10 December 2012 - 09:45 AM, said:

Now before anyone goes ballistic, Garth (IIRC) told us that to show up in that figure, you have to BOTH register for the game AND visit the forums at least once. How many people that leaves out is of course up for debate, but of the five or so friends I have who play MWO, I'm the only one that ever visited the forums.


Also up for debate is the number of multiple accounts made by trolls & disgruntled players.

#77 stjobe

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Posted 11 December 2012 - 10:53 AM

View PostFreeride Forever, on 11 December 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

8v1 is not a "match". 7v8 is also, not a "match". Whether or not the message pops up instead of dumping me into a fu<ky game with an uneven number of players has nothing to do with whether or not "matches" are being found. Most of the time, they are not, for one reason or another.

You must have the worst of luck. Either that, or you're exaggerating a bit.

I get one or two "Failed to find a match" messages a week (roughly 30 hours of playing), and then I just press "Launch" again and get into a match. I haven't seen anything more lopsided than 8v7 since closed beta, and certainly no 8v1. The overwhelming majority of my matches start 8v8.

View PostFreeride Forever, on 11 December 2012 - 10:37 AM, said:

Also up for debate is the number of multiple accounts made by trolls & disgruntled players.

Sure, there's some of those. I don't think they outnumber the 50-90% of players who never visit the forums though.

Edited by stjobe, 11 December 2012 - 10:53 AM.


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Posted 11 December 2012 - 11:01 AM

I dunno about you... but I still see a trial Awesome every round.





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