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[ShadowThunder77]

are they worth uising at all now that ECM is in play??

[Bguk]

Try it and find out for yourself. You only opened yourself up to yet another ECM thread.

Don't let someone else decide for you, you decide for yourself.

[Hou]

What type of missiles? SRMs are unchanged. SSRMs are less reliable. LRMs are harder to use, you may need to mount a TAG yourself if the other team is perpetually bubbled, then hang back around 300-400 meters and direct tag/fire them yourself. LRMs still hit like a truck if you fire any significant amount of them, particularly if the target is tagged.

Edited by Hou, 11 December 2012 - 08:17 AM.

[Pygar]

ShadowThunder77, on 11 December 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

are they worth uising at all now that ECM is in play??

Dunno...but I do know the word is spelled "Missiles".

(They are still worth it in some battles, but don't rely on them too heavily because ECM is pretty prominent right now)

[ShadowThunder77]

i wanna use them the way they were pre ECM

any way to use them exactly as they were pre ECM without TAG??

[Corison]

I find both SSRM and LRM's useful, but not as primary weapons.

1) SRM's - No change, great weapon for up close.
2) SSRM's - Much less useful unless you have your own ECM to counter, or non-pug groups.
3) LRMS - Much less useful, unless your in a non-pug group and work to counter ecm.

If your in a full Pug, you will frequently find targets just fine for your lrms. However in a team on team setup you may find lrms are pretty worthless for the tonnage. You can try to counter the ECM of course, but due to the range requirements at that point your better off with another weapon anyways.

[Taryys]

SRMs there are no problems with.

I stopped playing LRMs while PUGging a few months ago, now, with ECM I will most likely not play LRMs while pugging at all. Though I may try it now that ECM is out just to see.

Streaks, I will most likely only play in an ECM mech or while in a group with ECM.

[Badgerbanger]

SRMs are fine.
SSRMS and LRMs aren't really worth taking in a PUG match.

Like others have said, try them if you fancy and see how it goes.

Best option is to get a light mech with ECM and then SSRMs will work fine as you can counter jam the enemy ECM.

[Apoc1138]

bring TAG, and a friend to tackle anything that gets too close for you to deal with
my team mate was getting 600+ damage with 1-2kills and 5 assists last night with a catapult

the best part is that no one expects the spanish inquisition LRM boats so they don't even bother taking cover, they just run headlong at you while you get 3-4 salvos in on them

Edited by Apoc1138, 11 December 2012 - 08:23 AM.

[Rofl]

LRMs are fine if you have a buddy tagging stuff for you. I run a raven with tag and target things for a friend. Works out great. For SSRMs, since they are primarily used to harass lights, and since the majority of the lights you'll be facing have ECM, I'd recommend using them only on mechs that have a way to defeat ECM, or with a friend that can do the same.

[Wrenchfarm]

Yup. I spent all night playing as a self-TAGing medium mech packing either 2x LRM10 or a LRM15/LRM5 combo depending on Hunch or Cent. Did spectacular. Missiles are highly effective between 200-500m, way more hit than you would ever see chucking them from the periphiery of max range, it just gives them too long to find cover.

People have gotten a bit soft using ECM. They freak out when a medium mech starts pelting them with LRMs and has the speed to keep a good LoS on them.

Missiles used intelligently are still fine weapons. Sitting back at base and hoping for friendly locks won't do anymore.

[Ngamok]

I am unlocking Catapult Master and am using the C1, C4, K2 variants. My C4 was using 2 Medium lasers, 2 LRM15s, and 2 SRM4s to deal with up close brawls but still have long range support. At some point I swapped out the SRM4s for SSRM2s because trying to hit super fast lights wasn't cutting it with the SRM4s. Just because you can put 4 sets of LRMs and 6 sets of LRMS in the C4s and A1s doesn't mean you should load up on them unless you are on a dedicated team.

[ShadowThunder77]

since LRMs are no longer "stand back and spam" weapons should i give up on LRMs and be lazer weapons only from now on??

[Ngamok]

ShadowThunder77, on 11 December 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:

since LRMs are no longer "stand back and spam" weapons should i give up on LRMs and be lazer weapons only from now on??

I am not sure you are taking this thread seriously. So I say yes, go all out PPCs.

[Horned Bull]

ShadowThunder77, on 11 December 2012 - 08:26 AM, said:

since LRMs are no longer "stand back and spam" weapons should i give up on LRMs and be lazer weapons only from now on??

you can still use them, they aren't as easy mode as they were before.

[ShadowThunder77]

im unhappy that my favorite playstyle now requires more effort.

[Hou]

I see wut you did thar.

[ShadowThunder77]

any advice on what to do since ECM made LRMs too much of a hassle to use??

[Penance]

ShadowThunder77, on 11 December 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

are they worth uising at all now that ECM is in play??

Yes and no.

SRMS weren't really effected at all, so if you can aim fairly well, use them. Since ECM is the new flavor of the month, just about everyone is dropping with them now so SSRMS and LRMs are fairly limited right now, but you'll always find at least 1 person a game to rain fire upon.

Edited by Penance, 11 December 2012 - 08:35 AM.

[Ghogiel]

ShadowThunder77, on 11 December 2012 - 08:13 AM, said:

are they worth uising at all now that ECM is in play??

LRMs are sucky when solo playing in pugs now, most of the time you'll be high and dry when the ECM light mech horde shows up.

SRMs are still good.

SSRMs are useless unless you personally mount ECM or run with a group running ECM for you.