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[Sky walker]

Could you please, add an option to donate Cbills to our friends and purchase MCs as a gift?

As for donating cbills - you can make it like with the conversion of XP->GXP - payable in MCs for the amount, or you can make it with conversion ratio of x0.8. Anything, but make it possible to help our friends skip this horrible and pointless grind at the beginning of a match for getting first Mech. It's sooooo discouraging that I just can't justify having any of my friends playing the game, so we play LoL instead. They like MWO, think it's great, but there's no way they'd run though 40 or more matches in trial Mechs to get anything that's even half-decent and worth paying for.

As for gifting MCs - no idea why it's not possible already. That's little bit silly. Thought that options like that are "must-have" for every single game selling "gold". And here we are: With no option to gift MCs what so ever. *facepalm*.

Thanks for your considerations,
~Sky

[Hammer RLG]

yes please, but no. if you have cbills and want to give them to someone else, just be able to do so. do not make people pay to do that.

[Sky walker]

Yea, well, profits is a good way to convince PGI that it's a good idea

Edited by Sky walker, 13 December 2012 - 02:06 PM.

[pjnt]

Not going to happen.

[MaddMaxx]

Why don't your friends just drop a "dime" each to get a Owned Mech or are they hoping you will be the "man" and cover it for them?

[FrostPaw]

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO GOD NO!

"hey u mechwarrer, wanna buy plenty cbill/mc for only 5 dolla?"

You would be opening the door to gold selling, even MC could be bought in bulk during discount days and then sold after the discount ends to undercut PGI prices.

[focuspark]

FrostPaw, on 12 December 2012 - 08:42 AM, said:

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO GOD NO!

"hey u mechwarrer, wanna buy plenty cbill/mc for only 5 dolla?"

You would be opening the door to gold selling, even MC could be bought in bulk during discount days and then sold after the discount ends to undercut PGI prices.

So what? Welcome to the Internet and online gaming.

+1 support for the OP (though free is better)

[Deadoon]

focuspark, on 12 December 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

So what? Welcome to the Internet and online gaming.

+1 support for the OP (though free is better)

By implementing this system you invite those people, better to give them no vector.

[RedMercury]

So all those pugstompers who have accumulated more cbills than they can use can now gift it to their friends, so they can pugstomp together?

[focuspark]

Deadoon, on 12 December 2012 - 10:52 AM, said:

By implementing this system you invite those people, better to give them no vector.

Oh so you mean I should not be able to invite my friends to play MW:O with me? Which is what you're saying here. In any MMO RL friends want to play together and the best way to do that in MW:O is to have relatively equal quality mechs. If you cannot gift MC or CB then this isn't possible and people won't invite friends.

Also, you're stomping on the who charitable nature of many people. Guess I can see how charitable you are... happy X-Mas to you too.

[Deadoon]

focuspark, on 12 December 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

Oh so you mean I should not be able to invite my friends to play MW:O with me? Which is what you're saying here. In any MMO RL friends want to play together and the best way to do that in MW:O is to have relatively equal quality mechs. If you cannot gift MC or CB then this isn't possible and people won't invite friends.

Also, you're stomping on the who charitable nature of many people. Guess I can see how charitable you are... happy X-Mas to you too.

Attack on character, you misunderstood my argment purposefully. Mostly what I am against is transfer of a generateable currency, such as cbills, MC there is no issue with as the profitability of it's transfer/purchase for gifting is minimal to non existant.

[Peiper]

I do believe you should be able to buy MC for another. That would be pretty cool. However, the transfer of MC from one account to another invites 'gold farmers' and others as explained above. There are criminals out there who purposely hack online gaming accounts with the express purpose of liquidating the assets of said account and transfering it to another, most likely dummy account. They then sell this account, or at least offer to sell you the assets they stole and transfer them to your account for a price. I used to play World of Warcraft, and this happened to SEVERAL friends, most of whom were guild masters, who had control of guild banks full of stuff. They took those banks and emptied them, converting the contents to in game currency, then selling that currency at a discount price. They would then disappear after making the sale. Most of the hackers were in other countries where they were hard to track and prosecute.

So, no, the transferring of MC is a very bad idea.

One of my own friends here on this game has had his internet accounts hacked. They not only stole his personal information, credit cards and whatever, but they also went into his MWO account and sold all the mechs and bought junk - essentially vandalizing his account. I'm sure these hackers would have looked to sell his MWO wealth if they could.

[Peiper]

One nice thing, though, would be the ability to either:

Earn a few MC so that those who are broke can at least afford a few mechbays, or two:

Perhaps allow for a unit to earn some MC which a unit/corps leader could distribute to worthy Mechwarriors.

These amounts would be small, and the transfer would be limited to say, 300 MC a week to any particular player, so that no one would be able to transfer more than a couple bucks worth.

Your idea has merit, but the path to generosity is fraught with peril!

[Bronurstomp]

I'm opposed to being able to transfer currency of any kind in MWO. I too used to play World or Warcraft, and account hacking is RAMPANT by off-shore criminals. This will just invite the same sort of thing.
If you want to invite your friends to play MWO, and you want to gift them some MC, then send them a few $ via Paypal, and they can buy and sell whatever mechs they want.
If you buy a mech for MC, you can then sell it for a couple million cbills, then you can buy another mech with MC, and you'll have the cbills from selling the first one to outfit it. The system is not broken, please don;t "fix" it.

[Mechteric]

I think only gifting MC should be allowed, and makes sense in respects to their business needs

[focuspark]

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Deadoon, on 12 December 2012 - 11:51 AM, said:

Attack on character, you misunderstood my argment purposefully. Mostly what I am against is transfer of a generateable currency, such as cbills, MC there is no issue with as the profitability of it's transfer/purchase for gifting is minimal to non existant.

Sorry, particularly bad mood yesterday. Anyways, people like to give gifts. IMO restricting the freedom of the many due the potential activities of the few is the wrong way to do thing.

[Sky walker]

Valid points raised.
As for hacking - this cannot be prevented to 100% and right now actually it can be more profitable then with Cbills/MC transfers in game (eg. hack account, change data, sell whole pack on e-bay - loads of people would buy it, even to get second account as a "gift" for a friend).

As for selling MCs on e-bay and gifting it in game. T&Cs prevent any such behavior. If player is catched on doing anything alike: Insta-ban.
Problem solved.

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These amounts would be small, and the transfer would be limited to say, 300 MC a week to any particular player, so that no one would be able to transfer more than a couple bucks worth.

This cannot work. You can't buy anything (ok, perhaps a paint) for 300 MC. If such limit would be introduced - it needs to be high enough to gift enough MCs for a Mech.
Besides - as for MCs: simple option to buy MC for different account as my own would do the job.
I don't care much about transferring MCs from one account to another. I would care however about transferring Cbills.

[KBob]

focuspark, on 12 December 2012 - 11:17 AM, said:

Oh so you mean I should not be able to invite my friends to play MW:O with me? Which is what you're saying here. In any MMO RL friends want to play together and the best way to do that in MW:O is to have relatively equal quality mechs. If you cannot gift MC or CB then this isn't possible and people won't invite friends.

Also, you're stomping on the who charitable nature of many people. Guess I can see how charitable you are... happy X-Mas to you too.

just my 2 cents
it should be possible to PURCHASE MC for some specific account as a gift.
It should not be possible to DONATE cBills or MC from one account to another .. as long as you don't want to invite the whole world of hackers into account stealing.

[Flapdrol]

Gifting Cbills would start chinese suicide grinders.

anyway, purchasing MC for somebody should be possible, and will most probably lead to more income, so it'll probably be implemented at some point.

[focuspark]

KBob, on 13 December 2012 - 02:22 PM, said:

just my 2 cents
it should be possible to PURCHASE MC for some specific account as a gift.
It should not be possible to DONATE cBills or MC from one account to another .. as long as you don't want to invite the whole world of hackers into account stealing.

This is a good solution to MC but not for c-bills.