223 replies to this topic

[Gaeb]

PANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 06:24 PM, said:

It benefits them to keep declared as such, as long as possible. You are a perfect example why.

It's called, "Marketing". Doesn't have to be true.

Goodness, you don't have to lecture me on marketing. My leadership team lost a multimillion dollar argument that I am absolutely convinced (and I am the expert) will lose us money because the marketing team had better positioning.

On the flipside, there's no reason to assume a game like MWO should be stood up this quickly. League of Legends was actually conceptualized in 2006, didn't get traction till late 2007 IIRC, and didn't go from beta to live till 2009.

I get that you like Mechwarrior - I do too. I have, I would hazard, a bit better of a track record testing (and breaking) new games and expansions than you do. I'm saying up front that beta is beta and that if you want a quality release, come back 6 months after launch.

Your response is to scream "THIS IS NOT BETA" like one of those teen princesses on that sweet sixteen show. Jeez.

Edited by Gaeb, 12 December 2012 - 06:31 PM.

[PANZERBUNNY]

Gaeb, on 12 December 2012 - 06:25 PM, said:

I find it massively ironic that in an age where I actually shouldn't be giving out such info, when I actually do tell the truth people think I'm lying He DID ASK....

I didn't so much as ask as say, "you shouldn't be calling other people out on such things when you have ZERO information about yourself in your profile".

I could care less about your "deets".

[Igor Draskovic]

Edison Chen, on 12 December 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

Speaks alot that Forum Warrior online is more interesting than the game itself now.

OMG my sides.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Kazuar, on 12 December 2012 - 06:26 PM, said:

Don't stop it now, guys! *passes popcorn to fellow readers*

see what i mean this has become more entertaining than the game...

[PANZERBUNNY]

Gaeb, on 12 December 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

Goodness, you don't have to lecture me on marketing. My leadership team lost a multimillion dollar argument that I am absolutely convinced (and I am the expert) will lose us money because the marketing team had better positioning.

On the flipside, there's no reason to assume a game like MWO should be stood up this quickly. League of Legends was actually conceptualized in 2006, didn't get traction till late 2007 IIRC, and didn't go from beta to live till 2009.

I get that you like Mechwarrior - I do too. I have, I would hazard, a bit better of a track record testing (and breaking) new games and expansions than you do. I'm saying up front that beta is beta and that if you want a quality release, come back 6 months after launch.

Your response is to scream "THIS IS NOT BETA" like one of those teen princesses on that sweet sixteen show. Jeez.

I'll be honest. I stopped reading this after the first three words.

[Odins Fist]

Gaeb, on 12 December 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

1) Why do you keep spelling angry "angery"?

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Oh do you mean "ANGRY"..?? Gee Whiz, I edited it, but you were just so quick on the response that I gather you must be having one of those energy drinks..
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Edited by Odins Fist, 12 December 2012 - 06:34 PM.

[Gaeb]

PANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 06:31 PM, said:

I'll be honest. I stopped reading this after the first three words.

NP. You're following my advice and taking a break. Or you're out cold. Either way, this is good for your mental health.

Odins Fist, on 12 December 2012 - 06:32 PM, said:

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Oh do you mean "ANGRY"..?? Gee Whiz, I edited it, but you were just so quick on the response, that I gather you must be having one of those energy drinks..

Lol. I have a lot of those energy drinks lying around =( But in fairness, you spelled it "Angery" in ... multiple ... posts....

[GalaxyBluestar]

hey HEY who's hoggin the popcorn!?

[PANZERBUNNY]

You seem qualified to change my cats kitty litter though.

Can you also spruce up the bathroom? Bleach the floor if you can?

[STRONG LIKE BEAR]

Gaeb, on 12 December 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

Goodness, you don't have to lecture me on marketing. My leadership team lost a multimillion dollar argument that I am absolutely convinced (and I am the expert) will lose us money because the marketing team had better positioning.

On the flipside, there's no reason to assume a game like MWO should be stood up this quickly. League of Legends was actually conceptualized in 2006, didn't get traction till late 2007 IIRC, and didn't go from beta to live till 2009.

I get that you like Mechwarrior - I do too. I have, I would hazard, a bit better of a track record testing (and breaking) new games and expansions than you do. I'm saying up front that beta is beta and that if you want a quality release, come back 6 months after launch.

Your response is to scream "THIS IS NOT BETA" like one of those teen princesses on that sweet sixteen show. Jeez.

[GalaxyBluestar]

Roni, on 12 December 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

Keep your excitement to yourself people, otherwise before you know it will cost MC to use these forums.

man you should work for pgi they'd love you!

[Lycan]

Gaeb, on 12 December 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

BLASPHEMY! Don't point out there's a whole dev forum updated every 2-3 days.

They can update that forum all they want but until they actually follow through with what they say, it's all just smoke and sunshine.

[Gaeb]

PANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 06:34 PM, said:

You seem qualified to change my cats kitty litter though.

Can you also spruce up the bathroom? Bleach the floor if you can?

Pretty sure I could figure out all of those tasks.

Now, can you build a predictive model? Estimate 5 year ROI on a product that's untested? Determine an appropriate control for a reactive channel? Manage operational, legal, brand and compliance partners to stand up an untested process in a regulated environment? Run a team with a dedicated P/L in the eight figures?

Wait, did **** just get real?

[STRONG LIKE BEAR]

Gaeb, on 12 December 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Pretty sure I could figure out all of those tasks.

Now, can you build a predictive model? Estimate 5 year ROI on a product that's untested? Determine an appropriate control for a reactive channel? Manage operational, legal, brand and compliance partners to stand up an untested process in a regulated environment? Run a team with a dedicated P/L in the eight figures?

Wait, did **** just get real?

[PANZERBUNNY]

You mean things like reused "You will love this new feature we are rolling out on "X" date! It's an early christmas!"

Only to be pushed back over and over.

I care about one thing these days. Results. Delivering something when they say and doing it without pulling the game out from under itself.

That isn't too much for a customer to ask for.

[Igor Draskovic]

Gaeb, on 12 December 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Wait, did **** just get real?

You are a child and your humor is terrible.

[Gaeb]

Honestly Strong Bear I dunno what to say. Being smart and college educated is a good thing. The more you know!

[PANZERBUNNY]

Gaeb, on 12 December 2012 - 06:37 PM, said:

Pretty sure I could figure out all of those tasks.

Now, can you build a predictive model? Estimate 5 year ROI on a product that's untested? Determine an appropriate control for a reactive channel? Manage operational, legal, brand and compliance partners to stand up an untested process in a regulated environment? Run a team with a dedicated P/L in the eight figures?

Wait, did **** just get real?

You are trying really hard now. Like REALLY hard.

[Gaeb]

PANZERBUNNY, on 12 December 2012 - 06:40 PM, said:

You are trying really hard now. Like REALLY hard.

Igor Draskovic, on 12 December 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

You are a child and your humor is terrible.

I literally just described my last 6 months =/ Literally.

Edited by Gaeb, 12 December 2012 - 06:55 PM.

[GalaxyBluestar]

has anyone found the irony there's more sniping oppotunities on the forums than in game?

popcorn *CRUNCH* *CRUNCH*