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[Tennex]

didnt they say there was going to be base defense in the PC gamer magazine. i guess they didn't get around to that lol PGI

Edited by Tennex, 13 December 2012 - 08:18 PM.

[zverofaust]

pesco, on 13 December 2012 - 06:07 PM, said:

My remarks:

• First of all, this sounds like a nice sound game mode; because it is basically a straight-up copy of the Terrain Control mode of Mechwarrior: Living Legends. IMHO this should have been in the game since day one, possibly to the exclusion of "Assault".

On the contrary, the fact that deaths will still be permanent in MWO will drastically alter how Conquest in MWO is played vs MWLL/any other respawn multiplayer game. Sadly I feel this fact will make the intricacies of base control a distant second to simply blasting people apart. In the end, we may jujst get a failed game mode to replace our current failed game mode.

[TruePoindexter]

Hawkwings, on 13 December 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

Why would the other team stick around to let you kill them? They could just leave their point, let you have it, and then go cap the point you just left. A team built for that would be fast, equipped to kill lights and mediums, and run away from heavies and assaults.

You could just split your team to hold 3-4 points then and just ride out the attrition match. Throw in one fast mover to go back cap their bases if they try to focus all their power at one spot.

[Pygar]

pesco, on 13 December 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:

Paul just posted in Command Chair:



Discuss.

Sounds fun! Ironic timing to find this post, because i just left a thread where people were groaning about strategic capture! (Now, new and improved with even moar capture points!Trollolololololololololololololol)

[Hawkwings]

Splitting your team just invites the enemy to focus all their forces and quickly kill 2 or 3 mechs. Then the enemy has the numbers advantage and the mobility advantage. Whoops.

[TruePoindexter]

zverofaust, on 13 December 2012 - 06:23 PM, said:

On the contrary, the fact that deaths will still be permanent in MWO will drastically alter how Conquest in MWO is played vs MWLL/any other respawn multiplayer game. Sadly I feel this fact will make the intricacies of base control a distant second to simply blasting people apart. In the end, we may jujst get a failed game mode to replace our current failed game mode.

This will be interesting - death will be extremely detrimental since at some point you will not longer be able to effectively hold points. Conversely as you gain an advantage on the enemy you need fewer to defend and can focus more on attack.

I also think this will revitalizing scouting once more - scouts will have to actually scout enemy locations and not just find where they are in the beginning and be fast harassers for the remainder of the match.

[Alexandrix]

-Sounds fun.i mean yea,its been done before,but really what hasn't? It will be a nice change of pace.
-why does mw:o have such a hard on for light mechs?
-from the stated numbers,the payout needs a good bump up.i mean im sure thats in addition to normal end game pay out,but still.18k? I just spent 80k participating. But i generally think Rewards need to be upped anyways.
-either way,im happy to see it coming in and hope it turns out well.


P.S.:yiu guys think the rewards will be enough for 8 man teams to bother sync dropping to max point trade win?

[TruePoindexter]

Hawkwings, on 13 December 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Splitting your team just invites the enemy to focus all their forces and quickly kill 2 or 3 mechs. Then the enemy has the numbers advantage and the mobility advantage. Whoops.

If they're fast moving lights you can ride out the damage and win through attrition. If they're a heavy group obviously you'll need to do something else.

[QuantumButler]

Now, if conquest mode doesn't have the usual victory payouts in addition to Germanium bonuses no one will play it. I assume it will still have the usual win/lose cbills in addition to the resource payouts however.

Either way, I'm never, ever going to play assault again.

[TruePoindexter]

QuantumButler, on 13 December 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

Now, if conquest mode doesn't have the usual victory payouts in addition to Germanium bonuses no one will play it. I assume it will still have the usual win/lose cbills in addition to the resource payouts however.

Either way, I'm never, ever going to play assault again.

I'm sure it will have the other usual bonuses. I don't see why it wouldn't.

[Bguk]

Hawkwings, on 13 December 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Light mechs can just run in circles around the cap point and still be hard to hit. And I interpreted that payout as on top of the usual winnings. If so, conquest mode will be the preferred cashgrinding haven.

Matches would last too long I think. Sure a fast mech would be able to fly around capping but depending on how fast resources are gained it may not be worth a farmers time. Can't wait for the new game mode.

[MoonUnitBeta]

Not sure about the perma deaths in this mode... seems odd. lol

[Hawkwings]

TruePoindexter, on 13 December 2012 - 06:29 PM, said:

If they're fast moving lights you can ride out the damage and win through attrition. If they're a heavy group obviously you'll need to do something else.

8 lights/meds > 2 assaults. You can't "ride out" that number of guns on mechs that you can't hit.

[Purlana]

Fast lights with ECM + Streak boats.

Hit and run on nodes, GG game over. If they split up, pick them appart, if they gather on one node just out-cap them.

Edited by Purlana, 13 December 2012 - 06:40 PM.

[TruePoindexter]

Hawkwings, on 13 December 2012 - 06:35 PM, said:

8 lights/meds > 2 assaults. You can't "ride out" that number of guns on mechs that you can't hit.

If they put all 8 mechs to one node you control every other node and if it's anything like the other domination modes I've played you're going to win in about a minute.

[Hawkwings]

Except they've already capped at least 3 points because they're faster.

[Critical Fumble]

My comments:

This may very well be a situation where PUGs are given the short end of the stick, and beaten with it. Or I could be wrong, happens.

It also may make me finally start playing with premade teams some.

[The Cheese]

This match type would really benefit from limited respawns.

[TruePoindexter]

Hawkwings, on 13 December 2012 - 06:44 PM, said:

Except they've already capped at least 3 points because they're faster.

If that's happened something is wrong with you.

[Asmudius Heng]

The Cheese, on 13 December 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

This match type would really benefit from limited respawns.

They should allow 4 spawns. You put 4 mechs into your quick action bay and as you dine you select a new mech that is drop podded down to a point you have already under control.

So 4 lives for those with enough mechs.

People will probably take their light mechs first to go cap and then the heavier mechs will drop in to defend as the lights die which seems like a reasonable engagement escalation.