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[Khobai]

This is what I'd go with...

x2 Large Lasers
x2 SSRM2s
x1 UAC/5

Gives you good ranged firepower, amazing heat efficiency, and the ability to kill light mechs pretty easily

[Sp4wNers]

Thanks for the answers guys i will consider every of them! Also sorry for late response, i just got back to my home today :/

[idle crow]

AC20
2SRM6
3ML
STD300
DHS
Endo

[CocoaJin]

I hates it! Though I did have fun learning to use the AC/10, that things hits so goooood!

[Tickdoff Tank]

270 STD

2 medium lasers
1 large laser
2 SSRM2s (2 tons ammo)
1 AC20 (5 tons ammo)
ES
DHS (12)
416 armor

[WarfieldSRT]

Jason Parker, on 14 December 2012 - 03:13 PM, said:

I literally allways use XL Engines in all my Mechs. I'm a speed freak and want to go fast and deal damage so XL is the way to go.

And I have yet to come across any situation that makes me say "I really need to switch over to Standart engines because not being vulnerable to getting side torso cored is totally worth going slow as a turtle or dealing less damage before I get cored".

Honestly what a lot of people in vehicle based multiplayer combat don't get is that Speed is allways key. It doesn't matter how good you aim within your FoV if your target's able to stay out of it because of speed.

I would agree with you in almost all cases, except that you have to decide if you want an AC/20 or an XL engine. In the case of the CTF, you have to choose one or the other. Being able to put that much damage in one spot reliably is a huge advantage.

[Monkey Bone]

You just purchased maybe the worst cataphract there is.

But try;

-3xllas
-gauss rifle
-std 250+
-endo dhs

Go XL if you like to go faster.

[Tickdoff Tank]

Jules Gonzales, on 17 December 2012 - 09:01 AM, said:

You just purchased maybe the worst cataphract there is.

But try;

-3xllas
-gauss rifle
-std 250+
-endo dhs

Go XL if you like to go faster.

The 2X is one of the best Phracts. The 4X is the worst. But being the "worst of the Phracts" still means that it is pretty good compared to other mechs.

[Rhent]

The grouping with the missiles for SRM's is a bad set up due to the small laucher tubes, you won't get a straight grouping like you would with an Atlas or Catapult.

If you run:
2 LL torsos
2 LRM 15's + Artemis LA
1 Tag RA

You get a good mid range somewhat fast LRM / DD fire mech. Otherwise, you gotta go with a brawler version of AC, SRM6 and MPL.

[Chrithu]

WarfieldSRT, on 17 December 2012 - 08:56 AM, said:

I would agree with you in almost all cases, except that you have to decide if you want an AC/20 or an XL engine. In the case of the CTF, you have to choose one or the other. Being able to put that much damage in one spot reliably is a huge advantage.

Totally true. As a matter of fact yesterday it was about time to change 2X setup again and the AC/20 really made me think about changing to a standart engine and accept the speed malus. The only thing preventing it was that I didn't have enough CBills to buy the AC/20, Ammo and another Engine so for the time being I am rolling 2x ALRM15 (4 ton ammo) + TAg + 2 ER LL's and it is almost terrifying how effective it is in PUGs even with ECM around.
The best thing about it maybe is that the Arm mounted missiles on the 2X fire in 4 chunks each, which allows for mitigating short lock on losses over long range.

Edited by Jason Parker, 17 December 2012 - 09:23 AM.

[I WildCard I]

Rhent, on 17 December 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

The grouping with the missiles for SRM's is a bad set up due to the small laucher tubes, you won't get a straight grouping like you would with an Atlas or Catapult.

If you run:
2 LL torsos
2 LRM 15's + Artemis LA
1 Tag RA

You get a good mid range somewhat fast LRM / DD fire mech. Otherwise, you gotta go with a brawler version of AC, SRM6 and MPL.

This is actually quite the opposite in my opinion. Due to the shape of this launcher it reduces the spread of my 2 SRM 6 packs in the arm. Instead of firing in 2 vollies of 6 it fires in 4 vollies of 3. Since I have Artemis equipped it has scalpel like precision a lot further out than the larger launchers. This allows me to place all of the damage on a very specific area of an enemy, albeit about .5 seconds slower than the larger shaped launcher. The 2x is a beast.

Edited by I WildCard I, 17 December 2012 - 09:34 AM.

[Little Details]

Spinning Burr, on 14 December 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

Right now I'm thinking of a combo role 2X. LRM and SRM in the left arm. Gauss in right torso for sniping and fighting. XL engine. Lasers or PPC to finish out.

Interesting, I was thinking the same thing. Did you ever do it? I'm thinking about this build:
CTF-2X
...possibly dropping some armor from legs/RA to get another ton of LRM.

Edited by LT Satisfactory, 18 January 2013 - 01:41 PM.

[Skaroth]

NamesAreStupid, on 14 December 2012 - 09:25 AM, said:

I HATE THAT ******* MECH. My worst buy ever.

Aside from the Muromets it is the best 'fract.

Gauss
2 srm6's
Three med las
Forget my engine but with tweak it does 90ish

This mech and load out lays down some nasty burst.

[SIN Scythe]

I agree the 2x is the best phract, people who say it is not are simply misinformed or not very good at making or running competent configs. I have one and I get at least 500 damage each drop. I use standard engine that comes with it, 3 medium lasers, gauss rifle, SRM6 and SRM4, Endo steel, dbl heat sinks

I will sometimes run 3LL and a gaus as well same as my 1x.

Edited by SIN Scythe, 18 January 2013 - 02:02 PM.

[Lightfoot]

You have just bought the best Cataphract.

1 AC20, 4 tons ammo.
1 Med Pulse
2 Med laser
2 SRM 4, 2 tons ammo.

280 Standard

DHS, Endo Steel, AMS

[themoob]

Brawler Cataphracts with XL engines? Damn some of you are nuts.

Just whack a decent sized standard engine, endo, DHS, SRM6s, MLs and some kind of ballistic. Done.

[Panserbjorne]

This is by far my favorite mech. It is the one non-assault mech that seems to be designed specifically to carry an AC-20. Tack on 3 ML and 2 streaks or SRMs and what's not to love? You don't even have to upgrade the engine; this bird is durable.

[New Day]

Skaroth, on 18 January 2013 - 01:45 PM, said:

Aside from the Muromets it is the best 'fract.

Gauss
2 srm6's
Three med las
Forget my engine but with tweak it does 90ish

This mech and load out lays down some nasty burst.

I disagree. 1X is the best phract energy boat, 4X is the ballistic boat (2AC5, 2UAC5), 3D is like better version of it (I use 2 LL 2ML 1 GR or 4 PPC) and the Illya is a 3D with one arm energy hardpoint change to a ballistic point.. It's like it tries to be a jack of all trades and fails.
Also AC20 is overrated (it's 5 times hotter than the GR and has worse range).

I guess if you want an LRM phract its a good (only) choice.

themoob, on 18 January 2013 - 02:10 PM, said:

Brawler Cataphracts with XL engines? Damn some of you are nuts.

Just whack a decent sized standard engine, endo, DHS, SRM6s, MLs and some kind of ballistic. Done.

I love a slow target.

Edited by NamesAreStupid, 19 January 2013 - 12:22 AM.

[Protection]

320XL
Endo
DHS

3 Medium Laser
1 Gauss Rifle
2 Stream SRM2


Fast, heat efficient, armoured and good sustained DPS.

[One Medic Army]

I've got an amusing one:
2x PPC (1 per shoulder)
1x ERPPC (R Arm)
2x SSRM2 (L Arm)
280 std engine
DHS/Endo

Cataphract's high-mounted torso energy hardpoints make for great PPC sniping.

Edited by One Medic Army, 19 January 2013 - 12:59 AM.