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[ReiOfTalon]

Hi guys, first time posting. Having a bit of an issue with my Catapult A1. I'm really not sure what to do with it currently.

If I put LRM's on it, I have to sit in the back and wait for someone to jam or kill the tiny guy with ECM before I can put any damage onto the enemy team. Boring, and potentially useless if the ECM guy doesn't die.

Previously, back in the day, I ran streaks and ran around hunting lights (Before the servers RESET... THANKS.) I had an XL engine and chased them around. Streaks are... worthless against lights with ECM, which is what everyone is running currently.

The key reason Streaks were useful was it allowed me (Someone with 45 fps standing still... drops to ~15 fps during big firefights) to kill the little guys.

Currently attempting to use SRM6X2, SRM4X2 to make up for lost DPS, but it's not really working out.

So then... I ask you guys, what should I do? I'm at a loss. I really liked running my A1 for a while, but it seems like it's a bit outdated now.

[TruePoindexter]

The A1 makes for a wicked SRM boat. The K2 is still a great mech. The C1 and C4 are still usable as well. Boating homing missiles right now is not advisable unless you are dropping in with premades where you know you'll get support.

[Rhent]

ReiOfTalon, on 14 December 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Hi guys, first time posting. Having a bit of an issue with my Catapult A1. I'm really not sure what to do with it currently.

If I put LRM's on it, I have to sit in the back and wait for someone to jam or kill the tiny guy with ECM before I can put any damage onto the enemy team. Boring, and potentially useless if the ECM guy doesn't die.

Previously, back in the day, I ran streaks and ran around hunting lights (Before the servers RESET... THANKS.) I had an XL engine and chased them around. Streaks are... worthless against lights with ECM, which is what everyone is running currently.

The key reason Streaks were useful was it allowed me (Someone with 45 fps standing still... drops to ~15 fps during big firefights) to kill the little guys.

Currently attempting to use SRM6X2, SRM4X2 to make up for lost DPS, but it's not really working out.

So then... I ask you guys, what should I do? I'm at a loss. I really liked running my A1 for a while, but it seems like it's a bit outdated now.

Put 4 SRM6's w/ Artemis and 2 SSRM2's on it. You will do very tight grouping damange and when lights come you can help your team eliminate them quicker via streak.

[thenightisdark]

I have my A1 in streakcat mode, with a super fast engine. I run with the lights in pug matches, said ecm lights, and let them jam. The paper thin commando on my team hopefully counters their ecm, and i rip up their lights.

Its fun, but sometimes I never fire a shot. Other times, I get 4 or 5 light kills.

[BlackSquirrel]

Get better at aiming...or buy another mech... OR equip LRM, and SRM.

[Redshift2k5]

• Run with direct-fire SRM
  
• Run LRMs and a buddy using TAG or counter-ECM
  
• RunSSRMs and a buddy using TAG or counter-ECM

[Zero Neutral]

ReiOfTalon, on 14 December 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Hi guys, first time posting. Having a bit of an issue with my Catapult A1. I'm really not sure what to do with it currently.

If I put LRM's on it, I have to sit in the back and wait for someone to jam or kill the tiny guy with ECM before I can put any damage onto the enemy team. Boring, and potentially useless if the ECM guy doesn't die.

Previously, back in the day, I ran streaks and ran around hunting lights (Before the servers RESET... THANKS.) I had an XL engine and chased them around. Streaks are... worthless against lights with ECM, which is what everyone is running currently.

The key reason Streaks were useful was it allowed me (Someone with 45 fps standing still... drops to ~15 fps during big firefights) to kill the little guys.

Currently attempting to use SRM6X2, SRM4X2 to make up for lost DPS, but it's not really working out.

So then... I ask you guys, what should I do? I'm at a loss. I really liked running my A1 for a while, but it seems like it's a bit outdated now.

IMO that mech is currently not viable since ECM makes any lock-on weapons totally useless. I suggest shelving it and moving on to a K2 or another variant with non-lock-on weapons.

With the A1 you will need to get lucky in order to actually lock on to any thing.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

Switch to a Mech that wasn't wrecked by the ECM. Or you could get a K2. But there's not much reason to use those other 3 variants anymore.

[Biglead]

First, address why your FPS sucks. Resolution/Graphics up too high? Weak power supply? Could be that you have an older computer with 400 programs running in the background. Whatever the case, fix your FPS before your play style or you will always be looking for a crutch.

[thenightisdark]

Redshift2k5, on 14 December 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

• Run with direct-fire SRM
  
• Run LRMs and a buddy using TAG or counter-ECM
  
• RunSSRMs and a buddy using TAG or counter-ECM

LRMs, I agree.

But, just because i do still run my A1 in PuG matches. There are 4 situations:

No one has ECM.
Everyone has ECM (but you of course)

Some of your lights have ECM
Some of their lights have ECM

Of the 4 situations, the first 2 are cut and dry. In pugs, its common to be in ECM free matchs. It happens more than you might expect. Of the last 2 situations, you just have to run with your lights when they have ECM, and hunt their ecm free lights otherwise.

Its risky, but can be fun to tear up lights in the A1. having streak cats out there keeps the light mechs from freely running around with out ecm.

[Suko]

ReiOfTalon, on 14 December 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

The key reason Streaks were useful was it allowed me (Someone with 45 fps standing still... drops to ~15 fps during big firefights) to kill the little guys.

HA HA HA! My FPS MAXES at 35 and averages around 20-25 when walking around. It drops to single digits in firefights. Is it great? No. But it's certainly far from "unplayable" for me.

[Sifright]

Zero Neutral, on 14 December 2012 - 04:21 PM, said:

IMO that mech is currently not viable since ECM makes any lock-on weapons totally useless. I suggest shelving it and moving on to a K2 or another variant with non-lock-on weapons.

With the A1 you will need to get lucky in order to actually lock on to any thing.

Are you illiterate?

I ask because he is talking about the SRM4 and SRM6 Those are dumb fire rockets that don't need lock to be used in this game.


You being illiterate would actually explain so much with your posts.

The SRM6 Cat is the best damage dealer in the game right now simply due to it's ability to place all of it's damage in a very tight spot. If the netcode was better SRm6 cat would be hands down the best mech load out achievable right now.

With the poor netcode it sits as a top tier mech capable of knocking the **** out of pretty much anything else one vs one.

[ReiOfTalon]

Biglead, on 14 December 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:

First, address why your FPS sucks. Resolution/Graphics up too high? Weak power supply? Could be that you have an older computer with 400 programs running in the background. Whatever the case, fix your FPS before your play style or you will always be looking for a crutch.

Actually, I'm going to go with this game having **** optimization for dual cores. I run everything else fine. This game's optimization sucks. Nice assumption that I have no idea how to work a computer.

To everyone else that gave good answers... yeah, those are pretty good options. I've been running SRM's recently, but I can't hit lights with them. Other half of the time my ears get blown off before I get enough rounds out to be useful. Feels like they are made of paper.

[Sifright]

ReiOfTalon, on 14 December 2012 - 04:26 PM, said:

Actually, I'm going to go with this game having **** optimization for dual cores. I run everything else fine. This game's optimization sucks. Nice assumption that I have no idea how to work a computer.

To everyone else that gave good answers... yeah, those are pretty good options. I've been running SRM's recently, but I can't hit lights with them. Other half of the time my ears get blown off before I get enough rounds out to be useful. Feels like they are made of paper.

Yea the game is very cpu intensive, due to various bugs and performance problems with the game engine, if you aren't having problems with other games don't update for this one.

They will have to do performance passes at some point, this game has no excuse for not being playable at 60FPS constantly even on core2duo machines.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

If you want a CPU benchmark, my TurboBoost runs at 3.7ghz for this game(quad core). That's what I'd aim for from a computer now. Either TurboBoost over that, or overclock. Luckily, it isn't hard to get. Just buy some i5 for 200-250$ and you'll get there. The i7s look better, but you're just paying extra for hyperthreading, which games don't even use. I got a 3770k and notice no difference once so ever in my games with my hyperthreading turned on or off. So ya, I got the shaft. Go with an i5.

[Solis Obscuri]

Get an ECM light and run around spamming SSRMs while everyone can't hit you because of the combination of lagshield and teleporting from your (probable) packet-loss issues.

[ReiOfTalon]

Bluten, on 14 December 2012 - 04:32 PM, said:

If you want a CPU benchmark, my TurboBoost runs at 3.7ghz for this game(quad core). That's what I'd aim for from a computer now. Either TurboBoost over that, or overclock. Luckily, it isn't hard to get. Just buy some i5 for 200-250$ and you'll get there. The i7s look better, but you're just paying extra for hyperthreading, which games don't even use. I got a 3770k and notice no difference once so ever in my games with my hyperthreading turned on or off. So ya, I got the shaft. Go with an i5.

I can run Firefall and Planetside on near max settings just fine. Dual core 3.6. Radeon HD 6700, 5 gigs of ram. Lets not talk about computer upgrades. The game's optimization is crap, and I"m not upgrading for a while. Deal with it. This is about strategy, not hardware.

[Murdalizer]

you will get bored with the A1 Srm boat pretty fast...gets real old real fast

do what i do...run a C4 with 2xlrm15s, 2xssrm2s and 2mlas and xl300 engine..stay between 180-270 meters from the enemy and let it rip...

1: games with no ecm...i cream in my pants everytime i get one....seriously people dont bother with cover anymore.
2: games with 1-2 ecms...its alittle tricky, but doable.
3: games with 3+ ecms....ask if your teams ecm guys will counter(most wont,they just use it as their own missile shield) if they do counter..see 1....if they dont counter...log out pick another mech.

you might encounter someone using Tag..pls make it a priority to help him out.

[xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx]

ReiOfTalon, on 14 December 2012 - 04:35 PM, said:

I can run Firefall and Planetside on near max settings just fine. Dual core 3.6. Radeon HD 6700, 5 gigs of ram. Lets not talk about computer upgrades. The game's optimization is crap, and I"m not upgrading for a while. Deal with it. This is about strategy, not hardware.

Was there a point to any of that? "deal with it", lol. You act like I'm a seller at Intel trying to sell something. I don't even care what you run or don't run or buy or don't buy, lol. I was just being helpful. Can't say the same about you. Pretty much the only thing in that response that you even said, that wasn't rude crap, was that the game's optimization is crap.(which is true) The fact that this game needs so much power really is confusing. It's a simple 8vs8. There are multiplayers with dozens of players in a fight and/or complex scripted events that don't eat this much. In fact, my GW2, in WvW, in huge PvP battles, is barely any higher than this game. Regarding your last line, this is also not about random immature personal attacks.

Edited by Bluten, 14 December 2012 - 05:15 PM.

[Walk]

ReiOfTalon, on 14 December 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Hi guys, first time posting. Having a bit of an issue with my Catapult A1. I'm really not sure what to do with it currently.

If I put LRM's on it, I have to sit in the back and wait for someone to jam or kill the tiny guy with ECM before I can put any damage onto the enemy team. Boring, and potentially useless if the ECM guy doesn't die.

Previously, back in the day, I ran streaks and ran around hunting lights (Before the servers RESET... THANKS.) I had an XL engine and chased them around. Streaks are... worthless against lights with ECM, which is what everyone is running currently.

The key reason Streaks were useful was it allowed me (Someone with 45 fps standing still... drops to ~15 fps during big firefights) to kill the little guys.

Currently attempting to use SRM6X2, SRM4X2 to make up for lost DPS, but it's not really working out.

So then... I ask you guys, what should I do? I'm at a loss. I really liked running my A1 for a while, but it seems like it's a bit outdated now.

just run some plain SRMS. IF you really like LRMSs, run 2 srm 6 and the rest LRM. If you really like streaks, run 2 srm6 and rest streaks. If you really like SRMS... well, SRMS.
Even just two SRM6 is enough to make any light ECM mech back to **** off, and they are easy to hit with them, too