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[Denninos]

Crowd funding is popular these days you cant say they copied that. Have you ever heared of kickstarter its a page which was made exactly for that purpose http://www.kickstarter.com/

Edited by 2NoOB4YoU, 15 December 2012 - 04:05 AM.

[Smeghead87]

Sweet! A new Splash Damage game, I hope it's more Enemy Territory and less Brink.

[Thorn Hallis]

Captain Midnight, on 15 December 2012 - 03:01 AM, said:

Ever look at the client for world of tanks? I feel like THOSE guys could sue PGI.

[Triggerhippy]

As far as my limited knowledge of IP (Intellectual Property) and copywrite law goes, it's actually a question of IF PGI or IGP copywrited the founders packages if they did then yes they might have a case - considering the names they have used (legendary, elite etc) also if the ripped of any of the code for the website, that would be an IP case and while clear cut can be difficult to prove. either way someone needs to patent it or copywrite it before Apple does.

[Inertiaman]

They probably bought the site design straight off the peg. Like PGI.

[Xeven]

FrupertApricot, on 15 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

Deek that layout, the colors, the price codes, everything. are they on the same publisher or just insanely copying this stuff? https://secure.warchest.com/dirtybomb/

Actually that web designer is much better than the guy doing PGI website.

[S3dition]

Triggerhippy, on 15 December 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

As far as my limited knowledge of IP (Intellectual Property) and copywrite law goes, it's actually a question of IF PGI or IGP copywrited the founders packages if they did then yes they might have a case - considering the names they have used (legendary, elite etc) also if the ripped of any of the code for the website, that would be an IP case and while clear cut can be difficult to prove. either way someone needs to patent it or copywrite it before Apple does.

You have a copyright when you publish anything to the the public domain, but it only covers that specific work. In other words, we can't create Mechwarrior Online. However, this does not cover anything in historical or common use, such as ranks, titles, shapes, or colors. There is a copyright on the the way each of these mechs is styled, but not on 2 legged tanks.

A patent is bought on workable design. You cannot patent something that has no relevance, like a battlemech. It is too generic and non-functional. Nothing that PGI has done so far could be awarded a patent. But copyright law is enough to protect what has been created.

So, in short:

Copyright is automatic and covers anything you create by default.

Patent is expensive and lengthy process that requires working models and examples.

Xeven, on 15 December 2012 - 06:18 AM, said:

Actually that web designer is much better than the guy doing PGI website.

Careful, their website is tied to the game database. Upset Kyle and you might end up as non-founder with no mechs and 1337 cbills

Edited by S3dition, 15 December 2012 - 06:21 AM.

[Penance]

if only tactics had a founders program.

[Secundus]

Shucks, I was really hoping Splash Damage was going to make a new Wolfenstein game. Wolf:ET was one of the greatest games ever made, ET:Quake Wars was pretty good but not that successful, and Brink had great potential but ended up as a disaster. I don't regret paying Splash Damage after the free to play Wolf:ET (actually free to play, you couldn't pay money for it in any way), but they're products have been becoming less and less successful as they go along. After my experience with MWO and a few other free to play games I'm starting to think that I hate the business model as a whole and I'm doubting I'll be trying many more. The market is now saturated with these games and it just seems like for every game that's successful implementing it, there's 10-12 that fail miserably.

Edited by Secundus, 15 December 2012 - 11:15 AM.

[Effectz]

Smeghead87, on 15 December 2012 - 04:41 AM, said:

Sweet! A new Splash Damage game, I hope it's more Enemy Territory and less Brink.

It's Brink reskinned without the Parkour.

http://www.youtube.c...d&v=Xd4Hjoi2FQ0

Edited by Effectz, 15 December 2012 - 11:22 AM.

[Ryvucz]

A free t-shirt!?

I feel scammed...

My mech pilot avatar guy that wears a jumpsuit demands a Legendary Founder t-shirt, that is warn under the jumpsuit...

...so PGI can claim I already have it and not actually do anything with the model.

Wait a minute...

[Secundus]

Effectz, on 15 December 2012 - 11:22 AM, said:

It's Brink reskinned without the Parkour.

http://www.youtube.c...d&v=Xd4Hjoi2FQ0

After checking out the gameplay and forums it looks a lot more W:ET and ET:QW and less Brink. Airstrikes are back anyway.

[TruePoindexter]

S3dition, on 15 December 2012 - 03:43 AM, said:

Come, let's be gentlemen. Both points were made, and now we can respect them. No need to be personal

Sorry the last statement was meant with sarcasm and not intended as a personal attack. Humor hopefully adds levity to an uncomfortable situation.

Captain Midnight, on 15 December 2012 - 03:51 AM, said:

You are an obnoxious white knight blind to the truth for 1853 posts an counting. Keep it up I didn't see your post count before I called you out, obviously attempting to change anything to do with you is futile.

A white knight is someone who rushes to the defense of women being attacked on the internet. The term most likely originates from 4Chan where that kind of thing happens on a regular basis. So either PGI/IGP are women or it's not being used correctly.

Back on topic - a lot of things in business end up similar to each other. Business want to minimize risks and so if something is working for Company A then almost certainly Company B will copy some or all of it. The effectiveness of this strategy decreases of course the number of times it is copied due to dilution leaving room for innovation once again. The key is to get as close to copying as you can without actually infringing on any copyrights

[Vassago Rain]

Wargaming are more likely to sue PGI.

[Zero Neutral]

FrupertApricot, on 15 December 2012 - 02:59 AM, said:

Deek that layout, the colors, the price codes, everything. are they on the same publisher or just insanely copying this stuff? https://secure.warchest.com/dirtybomb/

I think that many future games will be kick started in this way.

[Felicitatem Parco]

This thread is being moved to the Off Topic section of the forums, since it's not really a discussion about the MW:O gameplay or anything like that - it's about other games and general Marketing/Publishing strategies.

[SteelJaws]

It looks/feels alot like Blacklight: Retribution from Steam.

[Heeden]

Ryvucz, on 15 December 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

A free t-shirt!?

I feel scammed...

My mech pilot avatar guy that wears a jumpsuit demands a Legendary Founder t-shirt, that is warn under the jumpsuit...

...so PGI can claim I already have it and not actually do anything with the model.

Wait a minute...

Oh man, you wish your mech pilot avatar guy wore a jumpsuit.

[Dirus Nigh]

This just in McDonald's sues Wendy's for using red, white, yellow in their sign.

Edited by Dirus Nigh, 15 December 2012 - 10:14 PM.