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[BoomDog]

I was just wondering what everyone's been using to deal with the rise of the lagshielded ECM lights that have flooded the pug matches (not sure how it's working out in 8 man). Other than 'have more ECM'.

What seems to be kinda working for me is LB10X and lasers to the legs, but it's been with mixed results. Aiming accurately with a steady stream of ssrms hitting you is difficult.

[Tangelis]

The LB10X is extremely beneficial for hitting lights. Even if you can't destroy them outright because of the lagshield it does have a tendancy to scare them off.

Lights are difficult to hit yes but I also find a lot of people panic and fire as much and as fast as they can when engaged with one. (I am guilty of this too at times)

A good tactic for me atleast when piloting slower mechs and facing a fast light is walking backwards. Yes you are easier for them to hit but you deny them your back and the ability to circle you at will. It generally forces them to face the full brunt of your weapons because you can keep them in your sights much easier which more often than not makes them think twice and pick another target. A bloody good Light pilot will be braver and still more than capable of taking you out but one good hit on that sucker and you can almost hear them say "oh sh*t"

[Sevaradan]

Shooting them has always worked for me.

[zverofaust]

ECM. ECM is the only counter to ECM. And only if you have more ECM than the other team.

[Kyone Akashi]

zverofaust, on 16 December 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

ECM. ECM is the only counter to ECM. And only if you have more ECM than the other team.

My TAG begs to differ.

[Sevaradan]

zverofaust, on 16 December 2012 - 09:54 AM, said:

ECM. ECM is the only counter to ECM. And only if you have more ECM than the other team.

i beg to differ hitting a light with an ac20, 2ml, and 3x srm6 will resolve the ECM issue in an immediate and permanent fashion.

[zverofaust]

Sevaradan, on 16 December 2012 - 09:57 AM, said:

i beg to differ hitting a light with an ac20, 2ml, and 3x srm6 will resolve the ECM issue in an immediate and permanent fashion.

Hi, could you please direct me to the bubble you live in, because I'd sure love to live there too.

[AlexEss]

Teamwork and calling out targets is usually the best way to do it.

[Mizore]

zverofaust, on 16 December 2012 - 10:00 AM, said:

Hi, could you please direct me to the bubble you live in, because I'd sure love to live there too.

Don't bother, he's just big fat obvious troll...

[p00k]

buy your own raven and stick ecm on it

[zverofaust]

Mizore, on 16 December 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

Don't bother, he's just big fat obvious troll...

I never understood this uncontrollable urge some people have that when they see a thread like this, totally universally accepted facts that Light Mechs with ECM are incredibly hard to kill, they come in and start spouting things like "Oh well I don't have any problems whatsoever killing these guys all day every day with my AC/20 4xML 3xSRM6 Atlas" (it's important they describe exactly their loadout too for some reason)

I think it must be some sort of psychosis. Like they just can't help themselves. They see someone saying something is too powerful or hard to counter and they just can't help but come in and claim they have no problems with it whatsoever.

[Sevaradan]

Mizore, on 16 December 2012 - 10:07 AM, said:

Don't bother, he's just big fat obvious troll...

Sir, I may be a troll but I am not obese i take offense at that.

[BoomDog]

AlexEss, on 16 December 2012 - 10:03 AM, said:

Teamwork and calling out targets is usually the best way to do it.

Keep in mind, I'm pugging here, lol.

Do you guys aim for legs, or concentrate on the torso?
What weapons do you prefer to use?

[p00k]

BoomDog, on 16 December 2012 - 10:17 AM, said:

Keep in mind, I'm pugging here, lol.

Do you guys aim for legs, or concentrate on the torso?
What weapons do you prefer to use?

if you're pugging, and you can't run your own raven, your best bet is lasers, and yeah, for ravens, legs. for commandos you can often get away with aiming for the torso since they're less armored and they don't have the arms/side torsos/ct's jammed quite as compactly as ravens. cicadas are also big enough that you can often aim for torso.

and remember, don't aim at the enemy. aim at thin air in front of the enemy, and rake until you see your crosshair turn red. it'll screw up your convergence, sure, but broken netcode is broken.

[The Amazing Atomic Spaniel]

I find the best answer is to take an Atlas DDC with 2LL, 2AC5, 3SSRM2, BAP, ECM and the three useful modules and run it with ECM in counter mode so you can lock onto the lag-shielded little horrors. You only have the same number of streaks as a Commando SSRM boat, but you have a lot more armour so you can use the streaks and lasers to fight the Ravens and Commandos and win and still have some guns left to fight heavies and assaults.

[Sevaradan]

zverofaust, on 16 December 2012 - 10:12 AM, said:

I never understood this uncontrollable urge some people have that when they see a thread like this, totally universally accepted facts that Light Mechs with ECM are incredibly hard to kill, they come in and start spouting things like "Oh well I don't have any problems whatsoever killing these guys all day every day with my AC/20 4xML 3xSRM6 Atlas" (it's important they describe exactly their loadout too for some reason)

I think it must be some sort of psychosis. Like they just can't help themselves. They see someone saying something is too powerful or hard to counter and they just can't help but come in and claim they have no problems with it whatsoever.

they aren't the easiest thing to hit but they are not "incredibly hard to hit" I kill lights way more often than they kill me.

Streaks on an atlas are bad.

Edited by Sevaradan, 16 December 2012 - 10:31 AM.

[Shredhead]

The best thing is; these mechs can't sneak up on you! As soon as you see the red jamming symbol on the right side of your HUD you know at least one of those buggers is within 180 meters. With the exception of Commandos (as said before) I always go for their legs. It's also helpful to be patient and wait until they run towards or away from, so you can line up your shots pretty easily and can even succesfully hit with missiles or ACs.
If you have to shoot a fast target moving transversally you should sweep the way it goes with lasers. I hope this helps.

[N Danger]

If you can hang out with a ECM mech, they will usually switch ECM to Disrupt when there is an ECM light around. Then TAG + Streak can ruin the ECM light's day.
But leading them with lasers/fast firing ballistics is what you do if you can't do the above.

[The Amazing Atomic Spaniel]

Shredhead, on 16 December 2012 - 10:31 AM, said:

The best thing is; these mechs can't sneak up on you! As soon as you see the red jamming symbol on the right side of your HUD you know at least one of those buggers is within 180 meters. With the exception of Commandos (as said before) I always go for their legs. It's also helpful to be patient and wait until they run towards or away from, so you can line up your shots pretty easily and can even succesfully hit with missiles or ACs.
If you have to shoot a fast target moving transversally you should sweep the way it goes with lasers. I hope this helps.

Good advice.

[Desintegrator]

RocketDog, on 16 December 2012 - 10:29 AM, said:

I find the best answer is to take an Atlas DDC with 2LL, 2AC5, 3SSRM2, BAP, ECM and the three useful modules and run it with ECM in counter mode so you can lock onto the lag-shielded little horrors. You only have the same number of streaks as a Commando SSRM boat, but you have a lot more armour so you can use the streaks and lasers to fight the Ravens and Commandos and win and still have some guns left to fight heavies and assaults.

Your absolutely right ! Thats the best setup for dealing with them !

But why should I buy a 100 ton Mech to be able to kill the light ECM Mechs ?