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[Sifright]

Corpral ellenbogen, on 17 December 2012 - 02:17 AM, said:

i think someone stated it best this is the forum for people who arent trolls please exit stage left

If that post you quoted is a troll post WELP.

Fans gonna be fans.

[GalaxyBluestar]

TwoFaced, on 17 December 2012 - 01:56 AM, said:

troll or fan, we need them both, I consider myself a moderate, I am in the middle, independant..yah

i believe it when i see it... two faced ;P

[Stone Profit]

Ive said it before and I will have to say it again. Any person who comes to these forums and dares to be positive is bullied and belittled by the people who claim this game is terrible and being made wrong and is going to fail. And the people who do that should be ashamed of themselves. But I know that they are but a small portion of this awesome games users. You know how I can tell? It takes moments to find a match. Afks and suicides are almost nonexistent these days. Bugs are getting rarer. Weapons ARE being balanced, despite what some people think. If you dont enjoy this game, fine. But dont badmouth those that do. If your opinion is valid, so is mine. You would ALL do well to remember that.

Edited by Stone Profit, 17 December 2012 - 03:06 AM.

[Besh]

^ This.

Some people seem to be sooo fanatically pessimistic doomsayers, makes me wonder why they even bother to come play, or post on the Forums. Interesting also that its a lot of almost always the same Names posting who

• know exactly in what - in their opinion desastrous - state the game is in
  
• know what could/should be done do safe it from crushing in that state
  
• yet claim its all too late and everything has been done wrong and failed already too much

Honestly doomsayers, make up your mind already. Either you HAVE a clue, then contribute to the games success; or you dont...then simply stop being hypocritical.

[Ghogiel]

White knights, the gold vision and the doomsayers all fulfill the same function imo.

[Stone Wall]

siLve00, on 16 December 2012 - 09:25 PM, said:

the 16 new ppl who created an account in the past 12 hrs will be with you ... maybe

more so than that like his comment.

Besh, on 17 December 2012 - 05:20 AM, said:

^ This.

Some people seem to be sooo fanatically pessimistic doomsayers, makes me wonder why they even bother to come play, or post on the Forums. Interesting also that its a lot of almost always the same Names posting who

• know exactly in what - in their opinion desastrous - state the game is in
  
• know what could/should be done do safe it from crushing in that state
  
• yet claim its all too late and everything has been done wrong and failed already too much

Honestly doomsayers, make up your mind already. Either you HAVE a clue, then contribute to the games success; or you dont...then simply stop being hypocritical.

For real. You can post a poll(like I have) about whether they like MWO or hate it. The same negative people vote No everytime, but claim the game is dead in Beta.

[Purlana]

Besh, on 17 December 2012 - 05:20 AM, said:

^ This.

Some people seem to be sooo fanatically pessimistic doomsayers, makes me wonder why they even bother to come play, or post on the Forums. Interesting also that its a lot of almost always the same Names posting who

• know exactly in what - in their opinion desastrous - state the game is in
  
• know what could/should be done do safe it from crushing in that state
  
• yet claim its all too late and everything has been done wrong and failed already too much

Honestly doomsayers, make up your mind already. Either you HAVE a clue, then contribute to the games success; or you dont...then simply stop being hypocritical.

Bad feedback hopefully = PGI making improvements

Honestly how many bugs and missing features have been here since closed beta?

I could make a list half a page long of all the things that need to be fix / added. But it seems all PGI cares about is the economy and adding things to the cash shop.


Hey guys it's only beta! But let us sell you more junk in the cash shop! They don't even have a real holiday event...

Edited by Purlana, 17 December 2012 - 05:31 AM.

[Stone Wall]

I don't know why you would expect a game in Beta to focus on a holiday event during the creation period.

[Purlana]

Stone Wall, on 17 December 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

I don't know why you would expect a game in Beta to focus on a holiday event during the creation period.

Is that the only thing you picked up from my post...

[knight-of-ni]

I'm not worried in the least bit, and I certainly don't think that the majority of us perceive the game is going down the toilet.
All the negativity in this forum reflects how much easier it is for us humans to state our complaints rather than our praise.

Feel free to followup with a complaint. Me, I'm going to thank PGI for the work they have done so far.

[Besh]

Purlana, on 17 December 2012 - 05:29 AM, said:

Bad feedback hopefully = PGI making improvements

Honestly how many bugs and missing features have been here since closed beta?

I could make a list half a page long of all the things that need to be fix / added. But it seems all PGI cares about is the economy and adding things to the cash shop.


Hey guys it's only beta! But let us sell you more junk in the cash shop! They don't even have a real holiday event...

Bad feedback = just that. Bad feedback.

The sheer hybris of people here on the Forums, thinking the very people making and creating this game have no clue about the problems...I mean serious, who TF do these Forumposters think they are ? They really think PGI knows NOTHING about their own game ???

Get a grip folks. Just because things dont happen the way you think they should, or wish they should, or would favour your KD much, doesnt mean things are going bad.

Edited by Besh, 17 December 2012 - 05:51 AM.

[Thirdstar]

Purlana, on 17 December 2012 - 05:32 AM, said:

Is that the only thing you picked up from my post...

Well of course. He knows he doesn't have a leg to stand on with the other points you made.

[Thirdstar]

Besh, on 17 December 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

Bad feedback = just that. Bad feedback.

The sheer hybris of people here on the Forums, thinking the very people making and creating this game have no clue about the problems...I mean serious, who TF do these Forumposters think they are ? They really think PGI knows NOTHING about their own game ???

Get a grip folks. Just because things dont happen the way you think they should, or wish they should, or would favour your KD much, doesnt mean things are going bad.

The word is hubris. And it's ironic that you attribute that to critics of the game. Perhaps you should address the points made instead of attacking the message and the messenger. The game isn't feature complete, greatly lacks content and is rife with bugs. Do you dispute that?

Here are some long term issues that haven't been addressed in months.
There's no in-game tutorial. No actual weapon data in the mechbay. The matchmaker is woefully inadequate. Netcode needs work. The hitboxes need work. Don't get me started on weapon balance.

[xRaeder]

siLve00, on 16 December 2012 - 10:32 PM, said:

and why ?

to show PGI that everything is okay ? so your swiming against the mass ?
you think thats a good idea when 90% ( wild guess hehe ) of the community thinks major bugs need to be fixed asap because their friends keep quiting and their friendlists are offline ?

i did start playing MW:O with 21 ( !!!! ) ppl.. guess whos left.. 1 single hardcore fan ! that shouldnt worry me ?
then i see the membercounter of the forum.. 414,299 ( 14 hrs ago it were 414.276 ppl ... )
imagine how many ppl keep playing who arent MW fans ?

thats the point iam worried the most .. and now iam realy off because i have to head for work lol

and i guess i wont even looking to much into this board anyways in near future.. lets hope the best and happy x-mas and happy new year to all of you and your families

And they removed the player counter from the Mechbay.

[Virisken]

Besh, on 17 December 2012 - 05:51 AM, said:

The sheer hybris of people here on the Forums, thinking the very people making and creating this game have no clue about the problems...I mean serious, who TF do these Forumposters think they are ? They really think PGI knows NOTHING about their own game ???

we had nearly light mechs with lagshield... the best way to stop them (in stead of figuring out how many meters away its real hitbox is) were streak sms.
now we have nearly invulnerable light mechs with lag shield and ecm, who can stop the whole enemy team without getting dmg..

so..yes..sometime i think, they have no clue, what they are doing.

Edited by Virisken, 17 December 2012 - 06:07 AM.

[Pooknuckles]

Thoughts from a newbro (4 days in):

Beta is as beta does. I've gotten fps bug, no hud bug, yellow screen bug, map bug, etc. Life goes on... there's far too much fun to be had here for a occasional bug to run me off.

ECM OP/Not OP... seems to work well. Some matches it goes in your favor, sometimes it doesn't. Can't win every battle, no matter what you're piloting or fighting against.

Game is going down the toilet... I don't see it. For the folks worried that Hawken is going to destroy MWO... go play Hawken. It went open beta last week. You'll likely be back. I played all of a couple hours before I decided that if I want to play CoD, I'll play CoD.

To PUG or not to PUG... I'd say not, but that's my OPINION. I hooked up with a group last night and there's no going back at this point. Group play is superior, in my OPINION. In 4 hours of grouping, my K/D went up, my Cbill earnings went up, my hunchback fitting improved 100% on the advice of the more experienced players I was with... and my overall enjoyment of the game went way up. Play solo if you want... some folks like the lone wolf approach, others don't. Stop faulting folks for what they like/not knowing any better. If they don't know, show them.

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I get that some of you that have been at this for awhile might be burnt out on the little issues that the game has, it's understandable. But looking at the market, there really isn't anything out there that comes close to what we have here. Like I said, go play Hawken and see. Some folks will probably dig it, but it's not my cup of tea, and in no way holds a candle to the style of mech warfare we have here.

I'll shell out for some MC for sure, once the holidays are over. This game is awesome.

/2 cents

Edited by Pooknuckles, 17 December 2012 - 06:07 AM.

[SI The Joker]

Pooknuckles, on 17 December 2012 - 06:06 AM, said:

Thoughts from a newbro (4 days in):

Beta is as beta does. I've gotten fps bug, no hud bug, yellow screen bug, map bug, etc. Life goes on... there's far too much fun to be had here for a occasional bug to run me off.

ECM OP/Not OP... seems to work well. Some matches it goes in your favor, sometimes it doesn't. Can't win every battle, no matter what you're piloting or fighting against.

Game is going down the toilet... I don't see it. For the folks worried that Hawken is going to destroy MWO... go play Hawken. It went open beta last week. You'll likely be back. I played all of a couple hours before I decided that if I want to play CoD, I'll play CoD.

To PUG or not to PUG... I'd say not, but that's my OPINION. I hooked up with a group last night and there's no going back at this point. Group play is superior, in my OPINION. In 4 hours of grouping, my K/D went up, my Cbill earnings went up, my hunchback fitting improved 100% on the advice of the more experienced players I was with... and my overall enjoyment of the game went way up. Play solo if you want... some folks like the lone wolf approach, others don't. Stop faulting folks for what they like/not knowing any better. If they don't know, show them.

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I get that some of you that have been at this for awhile might be burnt out on the little issues that the game has, it's understandable. But looking at the market, there really isn't anything out there that comes close to what we have here. Like I said, go play Hawken and see. Some folks will probably dig it, but it's not my cup of tea, and in no way holds a candle to the style of mech warfare we have here.

I'll shell out for some MC for sure, once the holidays are over. This game is awesome.

/2 cents

Fantastic post, +1 to you.

What's funny to me are the folks who admittedly don't play the game anymore (at least 2 of them on this thread) yet still come to these forums to spew vitrol and garbage.

It's sad, but when I meet new players nowadays on TS or in-game, I tell them NOT to come to these forums for just that reason. I'd rather spend time helping them than have them come here and wade through the garbage to get to the 10 or 15 posts which are actually meaningful for a new player.

If you're not going to play the game, please... just stop posting. I apologize - contrary to what you believed growing up, there is no participation trophy, "everyone" doesn't always win and truly - you don't always get everything you want no matter how much you cry. If you can't handle that... there are tons of great games out there to play. Save us all the bandwidth and eye-strain and go play them.

@OP: It's good to know those of us who are objective about this game and generally optimistic are not alone. Good post.

[Besh]

Thirdstar, on 17 December 2012 - 05:59 AM, said:

The word is hubris. And it's ironic that you attribute that to critics of the game. Perhaps you should address the points made instead of attacking the message and the messenger. The game isn't feature complete, greatly lacks content and is rife with bugs. Do you dispute that?

Here are some long term issues that haven't been addressed in months.
There's no in-game tutorial. No actual weapon data in the mechbay. The matchmaker is woefully inadequate. Netcode needs work. The hitboxes need work. Don't get me started on weapon balance.

According to my Greek teacher ( from like 30 years ago ) and the greek Alphabeth, its hybris. Forgive me for my faulty assumption of people knowing where the word originates from and what its spelled like in its original form, while myself not knowing the spelling people who are native english ( I am not ) have gotten used to.

I do not dispute that "The game isn't feature complete, greatly lacks content and is rife with bugs." I am just not one who cries "DOOHHHM TO MEKWORRIAZ" about it. I know its under development, thats enough for me to stay calm.

As for the other points you mentioned: no doubt ( well, cant say much bout weapons balance, I think a LOT of whats in THAT discussion simply TOTALLY misses the type of game MW:O is, and is based on twitch CoDlike FPSs...). I just come back one more time and say : Crying "DOOOOM" about it wont do anything to change this. It will actually simply make things worse. Simply because new players attracted to the game and bumping into these Boards get to read all that "DOOOOOOM" garbage being spilled out here...which may be kindof discouraging.

People who go on about badmouthing MW:O on PGIs own Forums as passionate as some well known names are doing consistently would be censored off the Boards and possibly even sued in my country for damage done to PGIs business....serious. They can be happy - but dont even realize, let alone embrace that - the fact that PGI is open enough to let all the criticism happen.

Virisken, on 17 December 2012 - 06:06 AM, said:

we had nearly light mechs with lagshield... the best way to stop them (in stead of figuring out how many meters away its real hitbox is) were streak sms.
now we have nearly invulnerable light mechs with lag shield and ecm, who can stop the whole enemy team without getting dmg..

so..yes..sometime i think, they have no clue, what they are doing.

Well, tbh...just chalked up a few more Cicadas on my HBK-4P. I do understand how people get the Idea of some Mechs being unhittable...I was thinking similar when I was new to the game. Then I got my mouse settings proper, got used to how Mechs operate and move ( had 0 experience with anything like that when I started with MW:O ), started reading stuff, watching players, learned what weapons and Mechtypes work well against those mechs, practiced aim-an-shoot with different Mechs and weapons...practiced it more...practiced some more...and then some...and still a bit more...and am consciously practicing it everytime I play the game , and by now...VOILA ! I can hit, and even kill them. Just because YOU cant with the Mech and weapon you are trying it with doesnt say anything about THEIR capabilities really...neither is it proove for any perceived OPness.

You know, perception is a tricky beast. You put " Unhittable Lights, unhittable Lights" in your head often enough, you will believe it, no matter what anyone says. Whats worse, you will limit your thinking and acting to a point where that Mantra becomes true for you. Sounds crazy, but it works .

Edited by Besh, 17 December 2012 - 09:47 AM.

[SpiralRazor]

Bguk, on 16 December 2012 - 10:01 PM, said:

Not blind. There are issues. The game is still in development so not dead as others are stating. Optimism, sure. Blind, nah. I'll be optimistic as long as I keep seeing updates coming.



And I don't disagree with you. You bring up valid points. Yet I can still wait. That's the point. This is a game, not my life. If I were sick and the ineptitude of doctors to find out what was wrong with me failed, I'd be pissed, wanting answers. For a game? Yeah, I can wait.

You can also wait for better games. Does stating it make any difference? PGI could turn this around, but its going to take more then what they have shown so far and MAY even require some serious, serious shake ups.

When you say "we're" in your title, you mean you...unless your blind or just that clueless...or maybe your reading comprehension is abysmal.

Useless post is useless.

[cowboy payson]

Hmm. kissing butt, much?