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#1 Pr8Dator

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:41 AM

I experience severe FPS ditch during brawls which I have attributed to poor netcode, poor optimization, suddenly loading etc on the dev's part since day 1. My fps average about 40+ in game and drops to about 5 to 8 in a brawl. However, I took a closer look at my system using various monitors and guess what I discovered?

That during heavy loading periods like in a brawl, my system's heat actually soar just like my mech's heat is soaring! Yes, that "Heat Level Critical" you heard while brawling is talking about your PC heat temp too!

When temp goes above something like 85 degrees celcius, a protective mechanism steps in called "Throttling". This is when your CPU will jam the emergency brake and cuts its power to its minimum in order to bring down system temperature as quickly as possible before an automatic shutdown (yes, your computer does that too!). I run a 2,5ghz system and my monitors are telling me that my CPU temperature goes above 85 degrees celcius in a brawl (not during other times in the game) and instantly, CPU clock drops to a mere 0.7 ghz! At that instant, not only my PC emergency brakes, my mech emergency brakes too at the worst possible time, slowing down to a crawl with enemy mechs circling and pounding me with death.

Good news is, I managed to solve this problem and now my brawls are SMOOTH with no slow downs at all!

I did this by UNDERCLOCKING (yes, most people will resort to overclocking when they experience slow downs like this, right?) from 2.5ghz to 2.0ghz. This shaved my fps peak from 40+ to 30+ but now, instead of slowing down to 8fps in a brawl due to throttling, heavy brawling only bring my FPS down to about 20, which is totally playable! and without watching the FPS meter, the whole gaming experience is smooth throughout!

How do I underclock?

This is NOT an ad... ok? I am just telling you guys what worked for me...

I downloaded a program called "ThrottleStop" by techinferno (please google for it). This program allows you to set your clock speed and also displays your core temperatures and allows you to turn off throttling.

Turning off throttling is very dangerous if you are running your PC at its factory spec. This can lead to your PC shutting down when temperature rise above 85 to 90ish. As such, what I do is clock down to the nearest whole number, which is from 2.5ghz to 2.0ghz in my case, and then play the game for like 30 mins. After that, check the software. It will tell you the max temperature hit during that period. If it is less than 85 degrees, then you can hit it up by another 0.1 ghz. The idea is to reach the maximum point where your PC hit a max temperature of about 85 degrees without exceeding it because you no longer have the system "throttling" to protect your system from shutting down.

After you reach a satisfactory level, simply play the game for as long as you usually play it and then see if the max temperature exceed 85 during that period. If not, you have yourself the most stable optimum config without overheating. Then you simply save the profile. The good thing is, the software allows you to run that clock speed only when you want to. Other times, you can simply turn the software off and let your system run as normal, which is what I do.

That said, you need to make sure your cooling fans are grime free so that you can get as close to stock frequency as possible by 85 degrees.

I hope this clears up some misunderstanding about heavy loading during brawling causing sudden FPS drops and helps some of you achieve a smoother play experience.

Happy hunting mechwarriors! :lol:

P/S I am not going to lie to you, this procedure can be risky when done incorrectly and may lead to system meltdowns. Perform at your own risk!

Edited by Pr8Dator, 17 December 2012 - 05:51 AM.


#2 elbloom

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:43 AM

how about correctly installing the cpu heatsink, cleaning the fan and leaving it run in stock frequency ? mwo NEEDS much CPU power....

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:45 AM

What about those of us whose $600 processors are not overheating at 60 degrees celsius with GPU usages of 30% getting 20fps?

#4 Pr8Dator

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:49 AM

View Postelbloom, on 17 December 2012 - 05:43 AM, said:

how about correctly installing the cpu heatsink, cleaning the fan and leaving it run in stock frequency ? mwo NEEDS much CPU power....


Yes, that too. I have all my coolling stuffs all checked and correct. I shall add this to the OP.

#5 Rippthrough

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:49 AM

Yes, instead of underclocking your CPU, how about you fix the problem that is making it get so hot in the first place?

You have a problem somewhere, and it is only going to get worse. Check the fan, airflow in the case, reseat the heatsink on some new thermal compound.

#6 Pr8Dator

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:52 AM

View PostDukarriope, on 17 December 2012 - 05:45 AM, said:

What about those of us whose $600 processors are not overheating at 60 degrees celsius with GPU usages of 30% getting 20fps?


Like I said, following this procedure allowed me to brawl at 20FPS too. :lol: Its a solution to those of us in my situation.

View PostRippthrough, on 17 December 2012 - 05:49 AM, said:

Yes, instead of underclocking your CPU, how about you fix the problem that is making it get so hot in the first place?

You have a problem somewhere, and it is only going to get worse. Check the fan, airflow in the case, reseat the heatsink on some new thermal compound.


Yes, all checked and problem persists and I believe there are many people in this situation too.

#7 Elkarlo

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:54 AM

How about a new Heatsink? Maybe in your old are the Heatpipes broken?
Had this one time.....
CPu was cool all the time until Heavy Load came then the Heatsink collapsed...


Solution 25USD new Heatsink.

And the CPU will live longer AND you will be able to play 40+ FPS all the time without Collapsing.

If you have a Intel Stock CPU Cooler... remove ALL wires around the CPU. Use Cable retainers for it.
Wires in the Sorroudnings of the Intel Stock Coolers reduce the Effiency of about 30-40%.

As they generate a Cyclon around the CPU like in a Dyson which improve Effectivness greatly.

Edited by Elkarlo, 17 December 2012 - 05:57 AM.


#8 Belorion

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 05:58 AM

Most overclocking software and just about any modern bios will let you underclock.

#9 Mawai

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:01 AM

Well ... to be honest ... it does sound like a heat problem on your PC. If properly installed with proper cooling your CPU should be able to run indefinitely at its maximum clock speed with all cores at 100%. If it is overheating under these conditions then there is one of several issues that you might need to address:

1) Larger cpu fan
2) Larger heat sink
3) Try running the computer with the sides off for better air flow
4) Clean dust out of any heat sinks and fans
5) If this was a do it yourself installation take the fan and heat sink off the CPU remove the old paste and put on the thinnest possible layer of paste. The only reason there is any paste at all is to fill microscopic gaps between the heat sink and the cpu ... basically put a little on and scrape most of it off with a credit card to get even and extremely thin coverage. Too much heat sink paste causes exactly the sorts of overheating conditions you are reporting.
6) If you are using a laptop then it is a manufacturer design issue and there isn't much you can do except get one of those laptop cooling pads and hope that helps.

#10 Mr Steik

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:01 AM

If you're getting throttled at 2.5ghz due to heat you really should check your PC. Rather than underclocking maybe try turning Vcore off auto? Resitting your CPU with something better than the toothpaste they provide with it. Check air flow of your case, try getting a push/pull setup going.

Try cleaning out your heatsinks and fans with compressed air. If your case has not many fans try taking the side off and aiming a desk fan at your CPU ( not ideal but can help with airflow ) . What CPU are you running anyway?

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 06:08 AM

Throttling is kind of like a seatbelt. You can take it off, but then all your lance mates will be mourning your absence.

If your computer can run the game but overheats, you might try this:
Control Panel
Power Settings/Power Options
Change Plan Settings
Advanced Settings
Procesor Power Management
99%


Basically stops you from getting to max utilization, and in so doing should stop you from overheating. Albeit at a minor hit to performance. Insert anecdotal 'it worked for my friends' evidence here. Guarantee not to melt a hole in your mobo though. And it's free.

Disclaimer: I hate Macs and have no clue how to configure them. Hell, I don't know if they can even play this game on Wine. Go jump off a Foxcom building.

Edited by BCOVertigo, 17 December 2012 - 06:11 AM.






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