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[Karyudo ds]

Yeah, I just liked the alternate version over the anime one...looked beefier I guess.

And I just read that post at http://www.giovetti....btrobosuit.html and wow... yeah it's far from accurate.

[The Last Blade]

The Last Blade, on 18 December 2012 - 09:38 PM, said:

Wikipedia is not the end all to everything either, it's made up of what people know, and relies on people updating it. It's not actual litigation or legal documentation, so if all the history is not there, that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[Farmer]

**** it. You clearly are just trolling and don't actually care.

[The Last Blade]

yea.......................................................................................... what?

anyways, I found it with some google, right when I was about done with this troll, the Radness Farmer.

James The Fox Dixon, on 04 November 2012 - 09:04 AM, said:

FASA didn't rip off anyone. They had legally licensed the mech designs from Studio Nue, the owners of the copyrights to the mechs, before Tatsunoko licensed illegally the mech and character designs to HG.

Actually, FASA never lost a single court case of infringement. The only point that they lost was in the Playmate's case over the Mad Cat design. The counter suit brought on by HG was settled out of court.

It's amazing at how ignorance is still around with the advent of the internet and the easy access to reliable information. Now here is the truth regarding the unseen and LAMs.


FASA licensed the images for the Unseen directly from the creators of the anime shows they appeared in which was Studio Nue. Tatsunoko Productions is the company that paid for Super Dimension Fortress Macross and had assumed they owned the copyrights to the mech and character designs in that series. Tatsunoko then licensed everything to Harmony Gold a year after Studio Nue licensed the mech designs to FASA.

FASA never lost a single case in any of the lawsuits that they had filed and were counter-sued by HG. The last case was settled and FASA dropped all designs they had under license. Fast forward to 2006, Studio Nue had taken Tatsunoko to court over copyright violations and it went to the Japanese Supreme Court. The Supreme Court ruled that Studio Nue owned the copyrights for the mech and character designs while Tatsunoko owned the copyrights to the series. The license granted by Tatsunoko to HG for the mech and character designs is invalid since they do not have the authority to license them as they do not own them. Only Studio Nue owns the designs. In the end, FASA was the one that had the legitimate license and HG did not.

A fun fact, Studio Nue redrew the art of the original mechs for the Japanese edition of BattleTech when the originals were dropped.

They were used quite often in all of the groups I've played. I've never played in tournaments, but they were allowed in level 3 tournaments since the rules were level 3. Of course, this was many years after the original BattleTech first edition was printed.

Now, I don't know if this is true, but this quote is from this MWO forum, and he sounds about 1000000x more legit than "Farmer the Radness", the random thread troll. Take of it what you will, but you can see he may or may not have info that is not in the Wikipedia, because, like I said, Wikipedia relies on people writing entries, it's not scientific or legal documentation of any kind. This "The Fox Dixon" seems like he knows stuff the average battletech player does not, and probably does not have any motive to lie, but who knows, maybe he is. Only FASA and or PGI really knows, but what it comes down to is 2 things:

1. If you are too lazy to Google, go back to Youtube and stay there. I only did it because there seems like there was a couple of legit mecha fans interested in this sort of thing.

2. If you try to use Wikipedia as your bible and your shield, you are destined for a fiery and horrible death by fact checking. Wikipedia is great for an infinite amount of quick intellectual information and is a cornerstone of the information age, but is notorious for its holes and is somewhat frowned upon by academic circles for it's lack of reliability. A quick google search brings this up: http://en.wikipedia....ty_of_Wikipedia comparing Wiki to Encyclopedia Britannica. Honestly though, When I look up stuff on Wiki and see stuff that is completely inaccurate, false, or missing 50% of the story on subjects I know first hand about, I can only question Wikipedia's reliability.

Edited by The Last Blade, 18 December 2012 - 11:00 PM.

[Karyudo ds]

The Last Blade, on 18 December 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

Now, I don't know if this is true...

I love how you counter with this. It's just so much win. Even though what he mentions is much of the same thing, some detailing other bits. Doesn't mention Revell though.

[Farmer]

Yeah. **** it. You're not worth it. I used wiki, because it was easiest. I've talked to the people involved in Harmony Gold and Funimation's Macross licensing I've interviewed these people. But clearly I'm not a true fan. So, **** me. I'm wrong.

Also: Fun fact! YOUTUBE and Google? The SAME THING NOW!

Edited by Farmer, 18 December 2012 - 11:21 PM.

[CrankyCroc]

Karyudo ds, on 18 December 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

I highly doubt Shoji Kawamori did a single Battletech drawing ever. Least not any of my TRO's.

Especially when they hired Shoji Kawamori to pen the designs for the Japanese edition of Battletech.

Simply use google like someone else mentioned.

[Karyudo ds]

CrankyCroc, on 18 December 2012 - 11:28 PM, said:

Especially when they hired Shoji Kawamori to pen the designs for the Japanese edition of Battletech.

Simply use google like someone else mentioned.

Seems I will have to since that page only mentions Studio Nue and they had more than one employee.