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[Shard Phoenix]

I completely agree. PuG's are 100% bad 100% of the time. It's nigh impossible to win or have any type of acceptable earnings.



(I know the pic is blurry, but that's 200k worth of earnings)

Edited by Shard Phoenix, 19 December 2012 - 07:49 PM.

[Mucia Prata]

I've played close to 50 matches without grouping up with anyone. I'm not sure if there's a place where I can find my win/loss ratio, but I'd say it's pretty balanced. I've gotten demolished early in matches, and in many matches I've held my own.

Without even communicating with my team, I tend to work with them. I play the support role and back up heavies and assaults. If I want, I go off alone and take on my enemy that way.

MWO is probably the first and only game that has never frustrated me when I died. Even if I'm the first to die, and I barely did any damage, I realize what my mistake was and don't even get mad. I just sit back and watch my teammates for the rest of the match, and talk to fellow dead players.

If you're having these problems, maybe it's your fault?

[Chaldon]

Buddahcjcc, on 19 December 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

didnt know everyone in the world spoke english as a first language. Racism! Back off it!

Not everyone.

Its just what you would use if you wanted to be understood here in the forums, in-game chat and across the voice servers.

Racism? Cry me a river. I'd love to learn other languages but it isn't needed.

[Mr 144]

Mucia Prata, on 19 December 2012 - 07:57 PM, said:

I've played close to 50 matches without grouping up with anyone. I'm not sure if there's a place where I can find my win/loss ratio, but I'd say it's pretty balanced.

Top of the page you're looking at...
Profile...
Stats..

There ya go

Mr 144

[Mucia Prata]

Mr 144, on 19 December 2012 - 07:59 PM, said:

Top of the page you're looking at...
Profile...
Stats..

There ya go

Mr 144

Oh crap.

I suck.

[Mr 144]

Mucia Prata, on 19 December 2012 - 08:02 PM, said:

Oh crap.

I suck.

LOL...I had the same impression when I first dicovered it Give it time...The trial grind hammers 'em pretty hard, and it takes a long time to bring 'em back up after you've purchased and properly configured your own mech. Ideally while pugging, your goal is 50/50 across the board, but it will take a while to get there...Good Luck

Mr 144

[Ryvucz]

Your name implies why exactly, you fail in solo queue.

Just saying.

I have no major issues in solo queue, done it since closed beta.

[D1G17AL]

Poopy Joe, on 19 December 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Sence non of my people I drop with are online I had to go solo. In about 2 hours so far doing solo. I have not won a single damn match. My payout is frigging terrible One time I got 3 kills and my payout was about 64K way too low.

Would be nice of MWO did away with Pugs entirely and force people to use an Ingame group finder with VOIP in order to play.

Or Make bonuses team separate Im always on top of my team but get **** for payment. I do high damage but not enough XP to get top spot. I try and get **** for it. Go back to old econ with that I made some damn C-Bills.

sage

Furthermore, this just summarizes to sound like a lack of effort on you're part to adapt and learn the game mechanics and understand that the developers are paying attention to their creation.

[Mucia Prata]

Mr 144, on 19 December 2012 - 08:20 PM, said:

LOL...I had the same impression when I first dicovered it Give it time...The trial grind hammers 'em pretty hard, and it takes a long time to bring 'em back up after you've purchased and properly configured your own mech. Ideally while pugging, your goal is 50/50 across the board, but it will take a while to get there...Good Luck

Mr 144

My win loss isn't too bad. 29/46. Obviously catching up from all the losses when I first started and am able to contribute more to the team with my custom mechs.

My kill/death ratio is .29, 15/52. Disaster. Though, given the fact that I'm a support mech, I often only help chip away the enemy and someone (my heavy or assault buddy) gets the final blow. So can't be too upset. I know I'm doing my job at least. xD

[Elizander]

Ecliptor, on 19 December 2012 - 07:28 PM, said:

Lol how could they force that? I don't pug often but when I do I don't find it as bad as you make it sound, sure is unorganized but all it takes is for someone to give a few basic directions and mostly people will follow

I just pug all the time and I don't say much beyond "Hi" and my reply to "Plan?" is "I don't have one" and I've been having quite a bit of fun lately.

My accumulated c-bills per match actually went up after the patch and I'm at 62% win for 100% pugging since OB, but my KD ratio still blows at 0.51 tho.

[SpiralRazor]

Poopy....indeed.

[TheSturgeon]

Poopy Joe, on 19 December 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Sence non of my people I drop with are online I had to go solo. In about 2 hours so far doing solo. I have not won a single damn match. My payout is frigging terrible One time I got 3 kills and my payout was about 64K way too low.

Would be nice of MWO did away with Pugs entirely and force people to use an Ingame group finder with VOIP in order to play.

Or Make bonuses team separate Im always on top of my team but get **** for payment. I do high damage but not enough XP to get top spot. I try and get **** for it. Go back to old econ with that I made some damn C-Bills.

You seem like your on the edge of a breakthrough so I'ma help you out. Pugs are awful because you harvest puggers for c-bills with your premade buddies. When you are the pug... other premades are harvesting you for money. Yes, you just got a taste of the exact thing you do that makes solo pugging so miserable.

Also, you don't really want to get rid of pugs, because you like to win. lol j/k

[Kaijin]

Buddahcjcc, on 19 December 2012 - 07:55 PM, said:

didnt know everyone in the world spoke english as a first language. Racism! Back off it!

Considering the OP uses English slang and sentence structure that could only be tolerated in the U.S. educational system, my bet is it's his native tongue.

[Kdogg788]

Vernius Ix, on 19 December 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

English! Learn it, love it, use it.

It's pretty sad that everyone is making more of his grammar than the OPs basic point. In MPBT we had lobby and drop rooms whereby players would navigate the game and talk to each other between drops. You could talk to friendly and enemy units before and after the battle and form groups that could travel together through the game. This would be nice in creating coherence among groups of randoms, if they can actually have this metric in game for playing together.

Btw, I believe the real jawbreaker quote was "Learn it, live it, love it."
-k

Edited by Kdogg788, 19 December 2012 - 10:25 PM.

[Kaijin]

Kdogg788, on 19 December 2012 - 10:24 PM, said:

It's pretty sad that everyone is making more of his grammar than the OPs basic point.

Seemed the OP's basic point got pretty well covered.

[Ryolacap]

ME HULK ME SMASH!

[Dr Killinger]

Surely you're trolling. No one can not win one pug for 2 straight hours of playing. I've been pugging a lot recently and I do fine, and even if I lose, it's usually a damn fun match!

[Cerlin]

Wow. Ok So yeah rolling solo is hard but as other have said you need to evolve your tactics. When I play with my friends it is different from solo. You will learn your team "moods" and if you arent a total **** they will even listen most all the time, work together, and win a good amount. I have see pug groups do great.

[King Arthur IV]

why did you even join a pug then?!?!? is it cuz your friends arnt always around to play premade?? what a dumb troll post.

[Xiang]

Assault Rewards:

* Win/Loss/Tie = 25,000
* Team Kill = -10,000 * how many teammates you have killed
* Component Destroyed = 2,500 * how many components you have destroyed
* Enemy Kill = 5,000 * how many enemies you have killed
* Enemy Kill Assist =7,500 * how many kill assists you got in the match
* Spotting Assist = 2,500 * how many spotting assists you got in the match
* Damage Done = 25 * how much damage you did in the match

Conquest Rewards:

* Win/Loss/Tie = 25,000
* Team Kill = -10,000 * how many teammates you have killed
* Component Destroyed = 1,250 * how many components you have destroyed
* Enemy Kill = 2,500 * how many enemies you have killed
* Enemy Kill Assist = 3,750 * how many assist you got in the game
* Spotting Assist = 1,250 * how many spotting assist you got in the game
* Damage Done = 25 * how much damage you did in the game
* Resource Bonus = 25 * how many resources you have collected

BTW - you will notice that the reward for an assist is more than a kill, so if you end up with 6-7 assists in a match you will get much more of a payout (and you get component bonus on assists too). I have a very bad kill ratio, but i leave most games with 4 or more assists, so i usually have a decent payout. Never a top scorer, but an asset to the team none-the-less.

Xiang