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[Vorex]

premading with current mathcmakier is like being a happy ***.

they promote their lifestyle, they feel they're normal and important.... but they're not. they should be separated from normal ppl asap. let them play only with their own kind.

[Elkarlo]

It is Holiday Season an we all should be nice.
Very simple and me too i am embarressed by PuGing... i lost 3 Matches out of 10 while PuGing.
And made everygame even when lost over 100k. Except the one game D-DC got me... thanks to my foolishness.

So PuG's are very bad indeed.
(To be fair, my normal Win ratio be Pugging is normaly 48%, thats because you have always some people while pugging which thinks they are Heros and goes solo. Today there had been very few Heros and tight PuG groups which had been very good.)

All together, there are a lot of experienced Players out there which use the Map to koordinate and work together
and it is lot of Fun to work with them. Even when we only work over Signs, pointing at Mechs etc.

And every Premade Pugstomper should play 5-10 Solo Games a day to learn how to read your Friendly group,
because one day they will be your Enemy and reading the Enemy and knowing what the General behaviour is,
is the Key to Victory.

Edited by Elkarlo, 22 December 2012 - 06:30 AM.

[mailin]

Hi I'm Mailin, and I'm a PUG.

I've been pugging it since closed beta, and I generally find that pug matches are typically very dynamic. You never know what the players are going to do or where they are going to go. These days I typically pilot a Raven with ECM. I am that guy that tries to keep as many of my teammates under the ECM bubble as I can for as long as I can. If I find a teammate going Rambo, I usually let him go. Enemies going Rambo quickly (150.2 kph) become ECM fodder. To the OP, if you're pugging, you need to be flexible. You can't count on every teammate to have the properly equipped mech. Some have, perish the thought, trial mechs. Remember . . . be flexible or just don't pug ever again.

[Hesketh Vernon Hesketh Prichard]

Poopy Joe, on 19 December 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Sence non of my people I drop with are online I had to go solo. In about 2 hours so far doing solo. I have not won a single damn match. My payout is frigging terrible One time I got 3 kills and my payout was about 64K way too low.

Would be nice of MWO did away with Pugs entirely and force people to use an Ingame group finder with VOIP in order to play.

Or Make bonuses team separate Im always on top of my team but get **** for payment. I do high damage but not enough XP to get top spot. I try and get **** for it. Go back to old econ with that I made some damn C-Bills.

I hear your pain! But you gotta try teach these pugs. I would say i was one once but i been playing MW since MW2 so i'd be lieing

[Thorn Hallis]

Let's check. OP is pugging for 2 hours, losing every match. Nature of the PUG is that you always have different people in each match, so the only constant thing in those 2 hours was the OP himself...losing every match.

[Rex Budman]

Comguard, on 22 December 2012 - 04:08 AM, said:

Ok, so let me get this straight...

Everytime you PUG you loose. And the other PUG team wins.

So your solution is: remove all PUGs.

But think about it: what was the connecting element of all the losses?

Hint: it is you.

Was thinking this exactly...

Someone's got to win, right? I think he's pissed it isn't him.

Usually I pander to these kinds of things but when it's the pilot it's the pilot - nothing can fix it except the pilot.

[Cerlin]

Even at my worst I think I still win 40-50% of pub matches....Yeah dude its you or your mech choice. Be more friendly and get people to work together?

And as a teacher, I respect people using English as their non primary language. The problem with the OP is attitude, not language for me.

[DerSpecht]

I Pug. I deal 600-973 damage every game and at least 2 kills. Please remove those premades who are unable to play without teamspeak and need someone to tell them what to do. They are useless.

[Horned Bull]

Cerlin, on 22 December 2012 - 07:07 AM, said:

Even at my worst I think I still win 40-50% of pub matches....Yeah dude its you or your mech choice. Be more friendly and get people to work together?

And as a teacher, I respect people using English as their non primary language. The problem with the OP is attitude, not language for me.

it's your typical cocky pubstomper attitude. Just count how many times they trashtalk, while in most of the cases their only strength are 1. coordination thanks to the voice communication (coordinated fire gives you a lot) 2. balanced builds (especially when synchdropping) vs matchmaker's finest 3. balanced force composition vs total random.

[paladin yst]

If only premades have any skill lol. Skilled players dont yell for other 7 for help when they get hit by a machine gun bullet, incompetent players on the other hand.........

Edited by paladin yst, 22 December 2012 - 08:21 AM.

[Colaessus]

I feel sorry for the people you play with.
They must get very angry caring you through the matches.

If you cant play solo then your no good for a Lance.

[Elistaire Drummond]

I am not an english native speaker. Please tell me if "poopy" means "beschissen"? If it is so, then the op "eigentored" himself.



edit: Grammatik.

Edited by Elistaire Drummond, 22 December 2012 - 08:37 AM.

[Radbane]

Poopy Joe, on 19 December 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Would be nice of MWO did away with Pugs entirely and force people to use an Ingame group finder with VOIP in order to play.

Stupidest suggestion ever. Learn to play?

[paladin yst]

No skill to solo = worthless leechers in premade, which the entire grp is nothing more than griefing party

[SlXSlXSlX]

Sounds like hes a noob founder who has had his skills dulled pub stomping and cant fathom how bad he is. OP worst suggestion ever. Best thing to come out of your post is, "and this is an example of the exact opposite of the correct direction to take the game".

If I have to hear your voices even once, the games getting perma muted and my playlist will fill the void.

Was just about to try playing again. Fudge this. Get premades out of pubs, look at the noobish founder QQ kachooing.

Now your driving away would be customers AND bruising sensitive founder egos.

[WhiteRabbit]

Losing every game in 2h ..... are you sure it's pugs and not you beeing really useless without someone doing most of the work for you

[BigBlue]

Pugs, it is always win some , lose some.

I always like to think that winning more than I lose is due to my elite skills raising the level of the match. When in fact it's I dropped with seven other above average players who carried me.

So when you lose, look in the mirror, and when you figure it out, let me know.

[Galenit]

Elistaire Drummond, on 22 December 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

I am not an english native speaker. Please tell me if "poopy" means "beschissen"? If it is so, then the op "eigentored" himself.

Ich glaube er weiß nichtmal das die meisten Menschen mehr als eine Sprache sprechen.
Ebendso wie er wohl nicht weiß, das die meisten Menschen mindestens 1 Fremdsprache in der Schule lernen, nichtnur bei uns in Deutschland, sondern weltweit. Bei uns konnten wir zwischen Englisch, Spanisch, Französisch, Russisch und Latein wählen, 2 davon waren Pflicht.

But enough, we dont want to discriminate people that can speak only one language.

Edited by Galenit, 23 December 2012 - 03:09 AM.

[Tigerhawk71]

Noth, on 22 December 2012 - 04:25 AM, said:

No it is not. Kill is a guaranteed component destruction that means you are still getting 7500 for the kill. Assists don't guarantee component destruction.

If you're good enough to be doing the damage that you "deserve" a kill, then you're doing enough damage to get component destructions. So yes, it is.

[Hellboy561]

Poopy Joe, on 19 December 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

I do high damage but not enough XP to get top spot. I try and get **** for it. Go back to old econ with that I made some damn C-Bills.

Theres your problem, theres no salvage if your blowing it all up!! Love people complaining about not getting money with the old "I fired 2000 LRMs at them and i only got 400 cbills"