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#1 Lurking Soul

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:51 PM

What do you prefer? and why? What Stick do you use?

I prefer joystick, it makes the game feel more real.

I used to use the Force Feedback Pro for MW4, to bad microsoft haven't made drivers for it and it just sits on my shelf collecting dust. Best stick ever made IMHO .

Anyone have a suggestion on a good replacement?

#2 Joe Mallad

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:55 PM

For a game such as this... Id have to say Joystick. I you can find a good set up that allows for multi-fire buttons as well as a throttle control... you wont need much else. And it really does beat having to kill your fingers from constantly pushing key board buttons. I played all the past MW computer games with both the key board function and Joystick and I ALWAYS found it easier with a Joystick and way more fun as you really feel you are in the cockpit this way :)

#3 Sassori

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:58 PM

I like joysticks, but in combination with the keyboard. The torso twist being different from your legs movement for example requires another Axis. I'm not going to buy a joystick just for this game though, it'll be mouse and keyboard for me. Why? Because point point targeting means mouse = overwhelmingly awesome point and click.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:00 PM

I would love to use like 2 joysticks but i dont have any T-T and i dont have the money to buy any either

Edited by ak12546, 21 May 2012 - 06:00 PM.


#5 Atlai

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:02 PM

View PostChristopher Dayson, on 21 May 2012 - 05:58 PM, said:

I like joysticks, but in combination with the keyboard. The torso twist being different from your legs movement for example requires another Axis. I'm not going to buy a joystick just for this game though, it'll be mouse and keyboard for me. Why? Because point point targeting means mouse = overwhelmingly awesome point and click.

While i do agree that the mouse is better for quick aiming and such, the joystick just adds a whole new level of immersion and fun :)

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:02 PM

Saitek X52.

Been using Saitek for a number of years, after my MS Force Feedback Pro broke from too the abuse playing too much MW4 causes.

I'm playing WoT using the keyboard and mouse and it actually feels a bit natural. The only issue with MW4 would be throttle control on the keyboard. I honestly don't know how some guys did it, but I know quite a few guys who played MW4 with mouse and keyboard and they were quite good.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:27 PM

View PostMason West, on 21 May 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

While i do agree that the mouse is better for quick aiming and such, the joystick just adds a whole new level of immersion and fun :)


If targeting was slowed down and not pin-point, I absolutely would use a joystick because I agree with you, much much more immersion. That's not the case here however, joysticks just aren't as accurate as mice are in a video game. It's why I always prefer keyboard and mouse over console controller in FPS too (Well part of why, I just can't stand console controllers beyond the PS3).

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:23 PM

View PostMoocherChiken, on 21 May 2012 - 06:02 PM, said:

Saitek X52.

Been using Saitek for a number of years, after my MS Force Feedback Pro broke from too the abuse playing too much MW4 causes.

I'm playing WoT using the keyboard and mouse and it actually feels a bit natural. The only issue with MW4 would be throttle control on the keyboard. I honestly don't know how some guys did it, but I know quite a few guys who played MW4 with mouse and keyboard and they were quite good.


I too will be using a joystick ( Saitek X54 system ) for the first time in a Mechwarrior game. But like others have said, if mouse targeting is much more precise then a joy, I'll quickly go back to the old stand-by; keyboard and mouse. I enjoyed using keyboard/mouse only in most mechwarrior games. Started off playing mw2/netmech with no joystick and was pretty damn good, hopefully I don't have 10+ years of rust built up. :)

#9 FrostPaw

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:30 PM

So few games need a joystick these days I gave up using mine. The death of flight sims kinda spelled the death of using them as a primary means of control. In the last 5 years I think I've used my joystick for a total of 2-3 games and of those games I never spent much time playing any of them probably because of the hassle of needing to move around my controller setup to make room for the joystick!

Keyboard & Mouse, mice these days have no downside with extra buttons, laser tracking and dpi sensitivities.

#10 Rejarial Galatan

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:38 PM

if its supported, Saitek X52 here. id hate to have to drop cash on a new saitek, but, i cannot pilot a mech using anything less than a joystick. just how i am wired.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:44 PM

I'm using a CH HOTAS setup. Pro Pedals, Pro Throttle, and Fighterstick. The CH manager program lets me roll them all into one device. I'm hoping to use Track IR for my view, and the thumb joystick on my throttle for aiming the arms. :(

Mouse is easier in MWLL, but I really do prefer the feel of a joystick. Since weapons don't track immediately to where you aim in MWO, I'm hoping that a joystick setup will be near to the same capabilities of a keyboard setup.

As for the death of flightsims, IL2 CoD, IL2 1946, Flaming Cliffs 2, and the DCS series are all very good. I higly recommend DCS A-10C FrostPaw. It's a study sim, so just about every switch and system works like it does in the real plane. :)

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:11 PM

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Joystick , keyboard combo is what most find the best , bad thing is the best joystick was a MS sidewinder pro and i dont think they make them anymore , logitechs Ext 3d pro works great but gets a fade (moves left or right without being touched) after playing awhile and others are made cheaply , im going to try a thrustmaster with side throttle if or when game goes live . < S > have played mpbt ,mpbt 3025 ,Mechwarriors (all),Inner Sphere Wars, Exteel ,Armored Core,using joystick/keyboard
Mechcommander(all)(keyboard/mouse)


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:19 PM

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p.s , but i still have my old logitech G15 gaming keyboard and G5 gaming mouse as backup , and clark spent some money on his joystick setup lol good lord < S >

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:26 PM

I plan to use my trusty old Logitech Wingman extreme 3D Pro and my Nostromo n52. My wingman is a freakin decade old and still works like a champ. The model is still sold today.. and not a damn thing has changed. Okay maybe its not a decade.. I cant remember exactly. But its been since I was in my earlier 20s.. At least 8 years. But the point is the exact same one is still for sale today.

The wingman is reliable and accurate enough. The buttons on the joystick are comfortable.. And I tend to ignore the ones on the base entirely. I like to use the throttle on my n52 and that is a good number of other buttons as needed right there comfortable as can be.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:26 PM

Saiteek x52.
alongside a razer nostromo... Best of both worlds...
(x52 has seperate throttle control and joysitck -one for each hand) while the nostromo is for the extra buttons and macros that I may need (weapon grouping, radar/startup/hud controls)

although, I do have a trackball as a fall back should things be a little hard with a joystick.

as a side note,
I would be tempted to try the razer hydra... If I had one

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:36 PM

Joystick =More of a real sim feel to the game.Now if i was to get out of my mech and run around on foot,i would say keyboard.I know we can't ,just saying.I do have plans with a cabinet maker friend, to make a closed cockpit with panoramic multiscreens .With joystick ,keyboard and mouse setup.A hula girl would be nice too :)

Edited by AtomicArmadillo, 21 May 2012 - 08:37 PM.


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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:39 PM

I used the Sidewinder FF Pro 2 also. Best replacemant I have found is Logitech Force 3d Pro. You can adjust the deadzone and sensitivity with the software and come pretty close to the Sidewinder.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 08:50 PM

Moving this to hardware where you'll be able to find other resources on this matter.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:02 PM

I'm using kb+mouse piloting jets&choppers in bf3. nuff said.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 09:36 PM

I see a money maker. When the time comes, new hardware can be released for an active system. The hardware can imitate a mech cockpit control panel. But for now I will stick to kb and mouse.





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