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[Nightcrept]

Zylo, on 21 December 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

I think a do-not-play list for those who report the locations of teammates would be fitting as well.

Better put me on there then cuz if you a chicken .... then i will everytime.

Your no better then a dcer who moved enough to milk the system.

Edited by Nightcrept, 21 December 2012 - 03:13 PM.

[General Taskeen]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:08 PM, said:

If i see someone run off and shutdown I will always report their position live over coms. I don't care if I get in trouble for doing it. I think it's cowardly unless your out of ammo or something else where your rendered useless.

I guess you don't mind having a little 'chat' with PGI then.

I report anyone who reports a team mates position.

What you are doing is Griefing. You don't like watching some guy retreat and hide? Get over it. Stop complaining about it, quit the match, and go play another one if your time is so precious. This ain't Solaris Online. You're dead, and your team mate isn't, hmm I wonder how that happened?

Edited by General Taskeen, 21 December 2012 - 03:15 PM.

[Zylo]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Better put me on there then cuz if you a chicken .... then i will everytime.

Your no better then a dcer who moved enough to milk the system.

Nope, I'm against both DC and reporting positions of teammates. I also don't power down if I'm the last player left. I will either try to cap the enemy base or will look for the most damaged enemies so I can take down as many of them as possible, even if it's still a loss.

I'm also against sync-dropping 2x 4-man teams into the small-group/lone-wolf matches just so those guys can get easy wins.

Btw, I will look for those final enemies that powered down to see if I can kill them as I no longer get a cap assist bonus. I had an enemy dragon try to run and power down once. I saw which way he went and my team followed me to his position and killed him as he was trying to power back up.

Edited by Zylo, 21 December 2012 - 03:18 PM.

[Nightcrept]

General Taskeen, on 21 December 2012 - 03:13 PM, said:

I guess you don't mind having a little 'chat' with PGI then.

I report anyone who reports a team mates position.

What you are doing is Griefing. You don't like watching some guy retreat and hide? Get over it. Stop complaining about it, quit the match, and go play another one if your time is so precious.

I will chat with them in exchange for that.

[TruePoindexter]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:12 PM, said:

Better put me on there then cuz if you a chicken .... then i will everytime.

PGI/IGP support have noted this is a breach of the TOS fyi.

I will also say that I have ran into quite a few people who are extremely presumptuous and think that they should dictate how others should play. It's rude to be a backseat driver so don't be a backseat mechwarrior.

Edited by TruePoindexter, 21 December 2012 - 03:16 PM.

[Duncan Fisher]

MadPanda, on 21 December 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

We were being crushed and it was down to last 3 of our team, and this one guy runs off to the cave to hide and shutsdown. I would understand this a week ago, but today? He got really upset when I told everybody what he was doing, and I'm now "reported", lmao! He was so scared to get his mech destroyed. REALLY?!? What kind of a dumbwit does this today? There is no repair or rearm cost, go fight you sad little loser. Yeah pointless rant thread. Deal with it.

I'll be honest. At first I would always hide when I knew my team was going to lose because it's really not worth dying to an 8 man focus-fire in a game where your pug teammate trooped in 1 by 1 to their deaths, or just generally sucked. After the patch, I was still in the habit of hiding whenever I was the last man against 4 or more enemies, but then I realized that its more fun to see people like you rage off their ***** about the fact that I'm still alive while they are dead. My favorite is evading the enemy team while one of my spectating teammates tries to call out every coordinate I move to. It's like a game of cat and mouse, and now that we get a few seconds after the game ends, I get to taunt those people when I'm still alive at the end.

Call me a troll, but, well, yea I'm a troll. My advice for next time: don't die so fast.

[Javok]

MadPanda, on 21 December 2012 - 01:59 PM, said:

We were being crushed and it was down to last 3 of our team, and this one guy runs off to the cave to hide and shutsdown. I would understand this a week ago, but today? He got really upset when I told everybody what he was doing, and I'm now "reported", lmao! He was so scared to get his mech destroyed. REALLY?!? What kind of a dumbwit does this today? There is no repair or rearm cost, go fight you sad little loser. Yeah pointless rant thread. Deal with it.

You did good, I always tell the other team where the cowards are, once I saw 2 Jenners hiding in the waterfall, they were there from the start...

Kill the damn *******!

[Nightcrept]

TruePoindexter, on 21 December 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

PGI/IGP support have noted this is a breach of the TOS fyi.

I will also say that I have ran into quite a few people who are extremely presumptuous and think that they should dictate how others should play. It's rude to be a backseat driver so don't be a backseat mechwarrior.

If the guy is going to run off and sit in a corner somewhere at the start of a game I have no sympathy for him.

[Zylo]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:18 PM, said:

If the guy is going to run off and sit in a corner somewhere at the start of a game I have no sympathy for him.

If you break the rules I'm sure others will have no problems reporting you for it.

Is it worth risking a ban? PGI already has your elite founder money.

[Nightcrept]

Zylo, on 21 December 2012 - 03:21 PM, said:

If you break the rules I'm sure others will have no problems reporting you for it.

Is it worth risking a ban? PGI already has your elite founder money.

Yes it is.

If they are going to allow this sort of exploit then there really isn't a game to be banned from.

[Zylo]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Yes it is.

If they are going to allow this sort of exploit then there really isn't a game to be banned from.

You know the fix they will make is just disabling "All Chat".

Then what will you do?

[TruePoindexter]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:22 PM, said:

Yes it is.

If they are going to allow this sort of exploit then there really isn't a game to be banned from.

It's not an exploit... you also don't have to stay in the game. You can DC and use a different mech in a different match.

[Zylo]

TruePoindexter, on 21 December 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

It's not an exploit... you also don't have to stay in the game. You can DC and use a different mech in a different match.

I think the real "exploit" is giving away the positions of teammates.

[Nightcrept]

Zylo, on 21 December 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

You know the fix they will make is just disabling "All Chat".

Then what will you do?

I'm fine with no chat. i consider it to be a lot better then dc/kdr exploiters.

TruePoindexter, on 21 December 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

It's not an exploit... you also don't have to stay in the game. You can DC and use a different mech in a different match.

It is an exploit. You fire a few shots to get above the dc cap then run and hide and get xp while saving your kdr. That's an exploit. CAn you imagine if it becomes popular?

Multiple people in every game firing off a few shots then running off to hide?

Zylo, on 21 December 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

I think the real "exploit" is giving away the positions of teammates.

Is that because you run off and hide to save your kdr instead of helping your teamates?

Or do you do it so you don't have to fight against your clan mates from time to time?

Edited by Nightcrept, 21 December 2012 - 03:31 PM.

[Anjin]

Had a game the other day where another Stalker and I were the last survivors on our team, there were still 5 of the other team left. I had no weapons remaining, a walking CT red everywhere, and my teammate, though I couldn't see his actual damage, was at 17%. We had managed to disengage, and were slowly making our way to the other team's base, when someone said in chat that capping wasn't worth it, that we should turn around and fight. I responded that that was somewhat difficult with no weapons, to which the response was, "well then, you should just hurry up and die then to end the game, stop wasting everyone's time."

[Duncan Fisher]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

It is an exploit. You fire a few shots to get above the dc cap then run and hide and get xp while saving your kdr. That's an exploit. CAn you imagine if it becomes popular?

Multiple people in every game firing off a few shots then running off to hide?

The main reason this happens to begin with is because unintelligent pug teammates think that the proper way to play the game is to "courageously" charge in to your death, and are disappointed to find that there are "cowards" who didn't think that was a good idea, and would rather not die because they had the misfortune of being placed on a team with said Bravehearts.

The vast majority of players don't enter a match with the intention of hiding, it just happens when they realize that their team is made up of worthless pugs.

[Zylo]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:28 PM, said:

I'm fine with no chat. i consider it to be a lot better then dc/kdr exploiters.

It is an exploit. You fire a few shots to get above the dc cap then run and hide and get xp while saving your kdr. That's an exploit. CAn you imagine if it becomes popular?

Multiple people in every game firing off a few shots then running off to hide?

This would be really stupid considering the way the new scoring system works. Having a mech in game that long would not be an efficient means of farming.

Kills need to be scored to improve K/D ratio. Deaths can't be removed from stats.

Try again.

Edited by Zylo, 21 December 2012 - 03:35 PM.

[TruePoindexter]

Nightcrept, on 21 December 2012 - 03:29 PM, said:

It is an exploit. You fire a few shots to get above the dc cap then run and hide and get xp while saving your kdr. That's an exploit. CAn you imagine if it becomes popular?

Multiple people in every game firing off a few shots then running off to hide?

It won't be popular because that would be both mind numbing and just flat dumb.

No offense but you're reaching. You're not upset so much because they're hiding but because they aren't dying with you. Misery loves company and on some level you're jealous of the guy who managed to get out of the line of fire without eating a load of weaponry to the face. It's similar to how a lot of people were upset at Repair/Rearm being removed not because they actually cared about the economy - but because they could no longer inflict massive repair bills on other players.

[Nightcrept]

Anjin, on 21 December 2012 - 03:32 PM, said:

Had a game the other day where another Stalker and I were the last survivors on our team, there were still 5 of the other team left. I had no weapons remaining, a walking CT red everywhere, and my teammate, though I couldn't see his actual damage, was at 17%. We had managed to disengage, and were slowly making our way to the other team's base, when someone said in chat that capping wasn't worth it, that we should turn around and fight. I responded that that was somewhat difficult with no weapons, to which the response was, "well then, you should just hurry up and die then to end the game, stop wasting everyone's time."

You fought. You where almost destroyed. I see know no dishonor in you trying to win the only way you had left.

[Nightcrept]

Zylo, on 21 December 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

This would be really stupid considering the way the new scoring system works. Having a mech in game that long would not be an efficient means of farming.

Kills need to be scored to improve K/D ratio. Deaths can't be removed from stats.

Try again.

Not true. By firing from the rear and then running off as soon as the game looks like it might go south you prevent the death. Then you stay in games where it looks like your team is going to roll the other team. I have been seeing a few players dcing like that.

TruePoindexter, on 21 December 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

It won't be popular because that would be both mind numbing and just flat dumb.

No offense but you're reaching. You're not upset so much because they're hiding but because they aren't dying with you. Misery loves company and on some level you're jealous of the guy who managed to get out of the line of fire without eating a load of weaponry to the face. It's similar to how a lot of people were upset at Repair/Rearm being removed not because they actually cared about the economy - but because they could no longer inflict massive repair bills on other players.

If they fight and they are the last man standing and can disengage more power to them. But if they are one of the current players showing up who disconnects or hides if the game even looks close i have no sympathy.