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#1 Mack1

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:29 AM

It's a bit like Maginot Line this, the Devs think all this fancy Phase 1, Phase 2 and Phase 3 grand master plan will solve all the issues with the facerolling that is currently driving people away from this game. They are so proud, they think they have it all sorted :P But the clans are like LOL let's just go around it and kill all the pugs with our sync dropping.

You actually could not write comedy like this, the clans are sync dropping into PUG matches and farming us solo players and the Devs are busy with a matchmaking system :) So basically once it's all in and running people with good stats will all be put together and clans will still be sync dropping into games and facerolling, so nothing at all will change.

Hey Devs since it's Christmas and you have had like 3 Months to sort this out I will spell it out for you.

THIS GAME NEEDS A SOLO QUEUE

There you go, problem solved in one quick and easy patch, no phase 1, 2 or 3 just a simple option to either queue solo or continue to queue as normal.

Happy Christmas

#2 neviu

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:33 AM

no it needs not.

people just need to understand basic teamwork skills,

#3 Havyek

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:35 AM

I heard "River of tears because I don't want to play with anyone and people are killing me"

Is that about accurate?

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:36 AM

View PostBDU Havoc, on 24 December 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

I heard "River of tears because I don't want to play with anyone and people are killing me"

Is that about accurate?


I heard that too.

If you want to drop solo, you currently can! You'll be matched up with 7 random people right now. Some of them actually want to play a team game with a team they know, so get over it.

#5 J4ckInthebox

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:37 AM

comparing a matchmaking problem to the biggest gigantic fail in recent military history? you are a bit harsh :P

#6 Greyfyl

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:37 AM

View PostMack1, on 24 December 2012 - 08:29 AM, said:

It's a bit like Maginot Line this, the Devs think all this fancy Phase 1, Phase 2 and Phase 3 grand master plan will solve all the issues with the facerolling that is currently driving people away from this game. They are so proud, they think they have it all sorted :P But the clans are like LOL let's just go around it and kill all the pugs with our sync dropping.

You actually could not write comedy like this, the clans are sync dropping into PUG matches and farming us solo players and the Devs are busy with a matchmaking system :) So basically once it's all in and running people with good stats will all be put together and clans will still be sync dropping into games and facerolling, so nothing at all will change.

Hey Devs since it's Christmas and you have had like 3 Months to sort this out I will spell it out for you.

THIS GAME NEEDS A SOLO QUEUE

There you go, problem solved in one quick and easy patch, no phase 1, 2 or 3 just a simple option to either queue solo or continue to queue as normal.

Happy Christmas


As much as I agree that they need to fix the MM so that premades can't roll pugs....it's not quite that simple.

I have no problem with premades being in with pugs as long as there is a premade on both sides.

A game with strictly pugs can still be horribly unbalanced, which is why we need some kind of ranking. Personally I would have just used the average xp/match stat to balance out the teams until a proper ranking system can be put in place.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:37 AM

View PostWebber, on 24 December 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:


I heard that too.

If you want to drop solo, you currently can! You'll be matched up with 7 random people right now. Some of them actually want to play a team game with a team they know, so get over it.



So instead of forming up and going into 8 mans they form up 2 four mans and sync drop to stomp on solo players.

Sounds like a bunch of ******* to me

#8 Mack1

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:37 AM

View PostBDU Havoc, on 24 December 2012 - 08:35 AM, said:

I heard "River of tears because I don't want to play with anyone and people are killing me"

Is that about accurate?


I hear oh no don't bring in a solo queue as I play in a Premade and we love PUG stomping as it;s really easy for crap players as I have people watching my back, front, left, right as I suck so much and could not possible cope on my own.

Is that about accurate?

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:38 AM

I wonder where all these brainless trolls come from. Anyway: Your tears are delicious keep on crying.

#10 Greyfyl

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:39 AM

View Postneviu, on 24 December 2012 - 08:33 AM, said:

no it needs not.

people just need to understand basic teamwork skills,


Sigh...basic teamwork skills will not overcome any DECENT premade team. The advantage of voice chat is tremendous.

All I hear from people defending premades is 'don't take away my easy wins'.

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:40 AM

View PostGreyfyl, on 24 December 2012 - 08:39 AM, said:


Sigh...basic teamwork skills will not overcome any DECENT premade team. The advantage of voice chat is tremendous.

All I hear from people defending premades is 'don't take away my easy wins'.


So get on voice and stop crying.

#12 Mack1

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

View PostWebber, on 24 December 2012 - 08:36 AM, said:


I heard that too.

If you want to drop solo, you currently can! You'll be matched up with 7 random people right now. Some of them actually want to play a team game with a team they know, so get over it.


Ahh yes you can spot the clan pug stompers a mile away haha.

There is not one reason when anyone who did not pug stomp would not support the idea of a SOLO QUEUE. There are hundreds of reasons why a lame *** clan that PUG stomped WOULD OPPOSE this idea. You can see who they all are on this thread :P

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:41 AM

View Postw0rm, on 24 December 2012 - 08:40 AM, said:


So get on voice and stop crying.



Learn to fight 8 mans instead of trying to act superior by pug stomping

#14 w0rm

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:46 AM

View PostFelix, on 24 December 2012 - 08:41 AM, said:



Learn to fight 8 mans instead of trying to act superior by pug stomping


We are doing that pretty much daily. The hard part is to find 8 peeps to get a group running, cause you can't drop with 5-7, you know?

#15 Alexandrix

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:49 AM

How about instead of just spewing the juvenile "stop crying" ,why not present a valid argument as to why there shouldn't be a solo queue?
"it's a team game!" doesn't really cut it for two reasons:
1. You are automatically put on a "team" every time you drop
2. A solo queue does not prevent you from playing with your team.you can still play with your team.....against other premade teams.

But that's not really what you want is it? The complaints of the empty 8 man queue,and continued pugstomping,pretty much prove that.

Go ahead,give me a good reason why there shouldn't be a solo queue.

#16 Felix

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:49 AM

View Postw0rm, on 24 December 2012 - 08:46 AM, said:


We are doing that pretty much daily. The hard part is to find 8 peeps to get a group running, cause you can't drop with 5-7, you know?



Then the obvious solution is to implement a 4 man queue as well.

Ideally if a 4 man tries to drop into PUGs the 4 man is forcibly split up and assigned to different games

#17 Tennex

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:50 AM

this is a ******** analogy

and im a doctor so i know

Edited by Tennex, 24 December 2012 - 08:56 AM.


#18 SlXSlXSlX

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:55 AM

It goes like this.. new player considering leaving tells game in post why hes considering leaving.. founders pour into post to berrate his opinion hoping to make his position illigitmate.

They berrate, and demand in essence all new players downlaod and start using TS, and start meeting strangers.

New player downloads planetside 2.

The end.

#19 w0rm

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:55 AM

View PostFelix, on 24 December 2012 - 08:49 AM, said:



Then the obvious solution is to implement a 4 man queue as well.

Ideally if a 4 man tries to drop into PUGs the 4 man is forcibly split up and assigned to different games


The solution is the implementation of ingame voice, idealy with a lobby after a match has finished, to form up a group.

Seriously you the only advantage a premade has is voice coms, not some magically skill booster. You can even beat them by organizing your PUG team with the ig chat and commander feature (yeah its still clunky I know).

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Posted 24 December 2012 - 08:57 AM

View Postw0rm, on 24 December 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:


The solution is the implementation of ingame voice, idealy with a lobby after a match has finished, to form up a group.

Seriously you the only advantage a premade has is voice coms, not some magically skill booster. You can even beat them by organizing your PUG team with the ig chat and commander feature (yeah its still clunky I know).




In game voice, and some easier tools in the battlegrid, allowing a commander to setup multiple waypoints for each mech. Maybe even call out targets to lance mates with the F-keys.





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