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[Xenon Codex]

I'd be ok with a "practice" mode, that could include respawns. I'd like to be able to test out new mechs and weapons in combat without committing to playing a whole game with them. People could jump in and out at anytime, blow some stuff up, practice circle strafing, get a feel for heat management, etc. Of course, this mode would most definitely not give XP, c-bills, or affect your pilot ranking. It'd just be a place to go rumble without consequences. Think of it as a training simulator, not the real game.

[Kraven Kor]

XenonCx, on 04 January 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

I'd be ok with a "practice" mode, that could include respawns. I'd like to be able to test out new mechs and weapons in combat without committing to playing a whole game with them. People could jump in and out at anytime, blow some stuff up, practice circle strafing, get a feel for heat management, etc. Of course, this mode would most definitely not give XP, c-bills, or affect your pilot ranking. It'd just be a place to go rumble without consequences. Think of it as a training simulator, not the real game.

And I'd be all for that, as well as any other form of "simulator" match that alters some rules or whatever. Just ensure that any progression occurs only in the game modes that have "realistic" rulesets.

[Ryvucz]

You might as well ask for an invincible mode with unlimited ammo and no heat you can stand in each others faces and shoot all day.

Same kind of skill required.

[Heinreich]

Fut, on 04 January 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

This has got to be the best response possible. What really makes this game great, for myself and I'm sure most people here, is the fact that it is MECHWARRIOR. It's not just some giant robot game, it's Mechwarrior... Let's keep it that way.

Slight tangent here, but worth noting as much as possible; can we please have Repair & Rearm costs back???

I'd like to have them back too. I'm hoping this no R&R thing would be temporary. For me the implementation I liked was the one where they repair everything back to 25% only then the rest is up to you. The issue back then was the rewards at the time would make you either very rich (1M cbills per win and minimal R&R if you were good) or very poor (500 cbills for a loss, which would be eaten all up by R&R if you got killed).
I can see the difficulties in balancing that aspect out, and I can see it can be daunting to the new players. I'm still hoping they can make that work but it seems like they've already went a different direction. <tries to think of something for the suggestions forum...>

[Coolant]

Suspect, on 31 December 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

I used to drop into re-spawn games to warm up for my teams no respawn league drops. It's worked great and was also good for blowing off steam. You are not going to get as much trigger time playing no respawn so it makes for great practice. Interestingly enough, the most popular and long lasting servers of the MW4 and MW3 franchise were respawn and some were (gasp) NHUA. The future of the game depends on variety and attracting as many players as possible. Is it bad for the game if we get 10,000 new players that only play respawn?

exactly, great response. The more options the better. I'm not concerned about splitting players...even if being conservative and using a modest 3000 active players just to make a point, there would still be plenty of people to shoot at

Edited by Coolant, 05 January 2013 - 08:31 AM.

[Kraven Kor]

Coolant, on 05 January 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

exactly, great response. The more options the better. I'm not concerned about splitting players...even if being conservative and using a modest 3000 active players just to make a point, there would still be plenty of people to shoot at

I hope you are right, but I think you are wrong.

[DokterBeefcake]

I'd come back for respawns AND a co-op mode. As it stands I'm done with this poor WoT clone.

[Flapdrol]

A game mode with wave after wave of trial mechs versus a non respawning group of tricked out powerbuilds, that'd be interesting.

[Grey Black]

DokterBeefcake, on 08 January 2013 - 05:45 AM, said:

I'd come back for respawns AND a co-op mode. As it stands I'm done with this poor WoT clone.

Wait.... this game isn't co-op? Darn, and here I thought that trying to communicate with my team regarding strategy was a good idea. Now to charge the caldera!

[Blackfang]

As long as they made it clear that respawn games would only be appropriate for pick up games only, and only where the option to have respawn on was put in so we can "opt-out" of respawn mode if we want, further to that keep it out of community warfare and tournament play. Then yeah I'm all for it, it'll attract new players to the game who like that kind of thing and may even convince some of them to play and pay in the non-respawn sections of the game to help their mechwarrior career along (you never know).

Although honestly I just see them sticking with the dropship mutator limited respawn for now but best part of F2P is you never know what the future will hold and what they might add to the game later down the line.

I think I did hear somewhere down the rumour mill that "practice" games will be available for units and suchlike to play on training servers of our own, although I think this is currently hear'say.

[DokterBeefcake]

Grey Black, on 08 January 2013 - 06:15 AM, said:

Wait.... this game isn't co-op? Darn, and here I thought that trying to communicate with my team regarding strategy was a good idea. Now to charge the caldera!

http://en.wikipedia....rative_gameplay

[Stickjock]

Am going to go ahead and move this over to Suggestions as it's more appropriate there...

As for Respawns? Wait for the Drop-ship Mutator to be added... last thing I read was that it should be an add-on to any game-mode available and allow Players to Queue 4 Mechs for Battle... when the 1st one is destroyed, move to the next one until the game is over or you've used all 4 of your Mechs...

[Captain Teft]

If "Dropship Mode" is still planned, this will be way better than respawn game mode.

Dropship Mode will let each player select 2 or 3 or 4 of their mechs from their mech bay, and if you die the next mech in your bay will be selected and get dropped into battle, and you'll get to play as that.

Limited respawn and forced variety like that >>>> CoD respawns

[DerGrafVonZahl]

I know I'm late on this. But i think with bigger maps respawns could be interesting. The problem at the moment is that splitting up the main battleforce isn't very effective. if you split up in two lances, one lance is engaging the enemy wich most likely wil be 6-8 Mechs. So the result is a 2:1 battle wich the smaller team will likely loose by doing no significant damage to the enemy (maybe they take 1-2 Mechs out).

the second Lance now also has to fight outnumbered and will likely loose too.

Respawn could be a way to get the sides to Split up wich is espacially interesting in modes like conquest.
Because as it is, there isn't much difference between the modes. Most matches are just one team taking the other out in an 8v8.

It also won't lose the simulation feeling, for example, Il-2 had respawns, but they were limited by available planes and pilots(set by the server). Aces High 2 has what could be one of the most realisticly feeling gamemodes at the moment, but still has respawns. Because it generates in game situation that can suprise you, getting confronted by an enemy force you didn't expect to be there (even though all enemies are players).

Except for Co-op Missions most Simulators are played with respawn.
Because on a 32player server simulating an entire war with only 16 Enemy units is kinda silly. To make you feel like a Mechwarrior in an actual war, the Maps need to be bigger, we need more strategical options and a bigger enemy force (wich can be achieved by respawns, maybe you can take 4 mechs into battle and when one gets destroyed you have a cooldown on this particular mech).

I forgot something, if you really want it to feel lika a Simulator make the spawnpoints that you have to move 5-30 (depending on mech size) minutes to even get to the enemy.

In games like Il-2 there is no need for a no respawn rule to get CoD players of the game, if you fly 10 minutes to get to the enemy just so you get shot down 20 seconds later, that keeps them away and the punishment to have to walk 10 minutes again will stop it from being a simple deathmatch. This would work with MW:O.

Edited by KillerKirby, 27 March 2013 - 02:48 PM.