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[perfectblue]

Another question as well. In this diagram it only shows a few of the clans occupying space. What happened to the rest of the clans such as: Fire Mandrill, Goliath Scorpion, Snow Raven etc.

were they absorbed by the houses? I know smoke jaguar turned into a smoking crater.

Edited by perfectblue, 24 May 2012 - 03:44 PM.

[Rot Wulf]

perfectblue, on 24 May 2012 - 03:44 PM, said:

Another question as well. In this diagram it only shows a few of the clans occupying space. What happened to the rest of the clans such as: Fire Mandrill, Goliath Scorpion, Snow Raven etc.

were they absorbed by the houses? I know smoke jaguar turned into a smoking crater.

Most of the other Clans stayed in Clan space as Wardens or trial losers. Not want to invade the inner sphere, or not being worthy of participation.

[Onager Kell]

Chunkymonkey, on 24 May 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Kai, Phelen was using Clan technology when they fought to the death in a simulation, so even though Kai used the Yen Lo Wang, it was still a very old mech even if it had new technology. Also, Ever wonder why they never mention the TSM in any other books by any other authors except in Blood Legacy.

actually i'm pretty sure the mech was updated to the new specs in the sim...can't remember what Phelan was piloting...a linebacker (2nd line clan mech) maybe? anyway i think it was been stated that they were of equal skill. Kai dies before Phelan in the lore sooo...

Edited by Mangonel Kell, 24 May 2012 - 04:02 PM.

[Skylarr]

The Clan Invasion:

Only 4 Clans with involved in the first 3 Waves.

• Invasion corridor - Clan Wolf
  
• Invasion corridor - Clan Jade Falcon
  
• Invasion corridor - Clan Ghost Bear
  
• Invasion corridor - Clan Smoke Jagua

In waves 4 and 5 two more Clans were assigned targets.

• Invasion corridor - Clan Nova Cats
  
• Invasion corridor - Clan Steel Viper

Some other clans were either given planets to control or won them through reg Clan customs.

In 3059 all the Inner Sphere factions agreed to target and destroy one Clan (Operation Bull Dog. They chose Clan Smoke Jaguar and were successful 3060.

[LaznAzn]

Lol. That reminds me, how will F.R.R. players feel about the clan invasion?
And I wonder if we will be able to change the outcome and "invent" our own lore depending on combat results.
For example F.R.R. being successful enough to completely repel the invasion. Would be cool I think if the outcome could be changed and we could collectively make our own map.

[perfectblue]

I was under the impression Smoke Jaguar was eliminated because they resorted to nuclear weaponry again, thus breaking sanctions.

[Skylarr]

LaznAzn, on 24 May 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

Lol. That reminds me, how will F.R.R. players feel about the clan invasion?
And I wonder if we will be able to change the outcome and "invent" our own lore depending on combat results.
For example F.R.R. being successful enough to completely repel the invasion. Would be cool I think if the outcome could be changed and we could collectively make our own map.

No. It has been stated that we cannot change what is to come. We may be involve in smaller actions. Our actions will not effect anything that happens on the grander scale.

[Skylarr]

perfectblue, on 24 May 2012 - 04:04 PM, said:

I was under the impression Smoke Jaguar was eliminated because they resorted to nuclear weaponry again, thus breaking sanctions.

No. The Smoke Jaguars did an Orbital Bombarded on the planet Turtle Bay during the 2nd wave of the Clan Invasion

The elite Jaguar Clusters cut through the opposing DCMS troops like a hot knife, but were stung by their inability to deal with Kurita partisans. This flaw was no more apparent than on the planet Turtle Bay. The Jaguars had unknowingly captured Hohiro Kurita, son of Theodore Kurita, but lost him during a jail break. Later, after several weeks of non-stop rioting, the local Jaguar commander unleashed the full power of his WarShip on the city of Edo Bay, bombarding it from orbit and completely destroying the city and killing nearly a million civilians.


they were picked because they were the most hated Clan because of how they treated the captures enemy and civilian. AN because they were the weakest of the 4 major Clans.

Edited by Skylarr, 24 May 2012 - 04:14 PM.

[Skylarr]

Chunkymonkey, on 24 May 2012 - 03:40 PM, said:

Kai, Phelen was using Clan technology when they fought to the death in a simulation, so even though Kai used the Yen Lo Wang, it was still a very old mech even if it had new technology. Also, Ever wonder why they never mention the TSM in any other books by any other authors except in Blood Legacy.

Kai Allard-Liaotraveled with the other leaders and heirs of the Inner Sphere in 3051 to Outreach at the request of Jaime Wolf to learn about the Clans. On Outreach, Kai fought in a Clan-style Trial of Position and defeated an unprecedented five of his six opponents, including Prince Hanse Davion before falling to Jaime himself. He turned down Jaime's offer of the Daishi he had piloted to keep Yen-Lo-Wang, the CN 9AH Centurion that had been his father's 'Mech. Hanse Davion insisted on rewarding his performance, and upgraded Yen-Lo-Wang with newly rediscovered Star League technology derived from the Helm Memory Core.

You cannot fight to the death in a simulator.

Edited by Skylarr, 24 May 2012 - 04:21 PM.

[Rot Wulf]

Skylarr, on 24 May 2012 - 04:11 PM, said:

No. The Smoke Jaguars did an Orbital Bombarded on the planet Turtle Bay during the 2nd wave of the Clan Invasion

The elite Jaguar Clusters cut through the opposing DCMS troops like a hot knife, but were stung by their inability to deal with Kurita partisans. This flaw was no more apparent than on the planet Turtle Bay. The Jaguars had unknowingly captured Hohiro Kurita, son of Theodore Kurita, but lost him during a jail break. Later, after several weeks of non-stop rioting, the local Jaguar commander unleashed the full power of his WarShip on the city of Edo Bay, bombarding it from orbit and completely destroying the city and killing nearly a million civilians.


they were picked because they were the most hated Clan because of how they treated the captures enemy and civilian. AN because they were the weakest of the 4 major Clans.

^ yup this, but nukes could not be much worse.

That said the Jaguars did break a treaty to which they were not a signer. Every house of the inner sphere however was a signer and that made a real good excuse for choosing the jaguars.

[Skylarr]

It is stated someplace that Orbital bombard was used several times, on a small scale, by different Clans. But, it Ulric Kerensky who somehow convinced the other Clan to bid them away.

Ulric was a Warden and believed it the Clans job to protect the Inner Sphere.

[Onager Kell]

the smoke jaguars were chosen because 1) they were the ilClan and taking them out would send a message to the other Clans, 2) they were among one of the most rabid of the Crusader faction. 3) the clan traitor Trent was from CSJ and he gave the IS/new Star League the info to make it back to Strana Mechty via CSJ space...

and on a side note, CSJ was weakend, but by no means was the weakest of the 4 major invading clans, Clan Jade Falcon was brutalized by the Battle on Tukkayid and the subsequent Refusal War with Clan Wolf, it could be argued they were the weakest. CSJ was chosen due to a confluence of factors involving tactical and political components.

[MechRaccoon]

In a nutshell, back in the time of the Star League, the Inner Sphere was separating into houses and starting to squabble and one man, Aleksander Kerensky, was not happy with this, He was the chief of the Star league's military, so when he decided to move away from the Inner Sphere in his Overlord-shaped moving van, he decided to take his military buddies with him in his Overlord-shaped van. They took all the advanced technology, cool Mechs, and super advanced techno music they could find with them. However, some of Aleks' military buddies stayed behind and formed the Eridani Light Horse, but that's another story. Anyway, when they reached their destination, Aleksander and his buddies formed the Clans you and I know today and further developed the technology they took with them, making the precious Clan ER PPCs and crappy looking Warhammer IICs, and those are only a FEW examples of what they made with their massive amounts of spare time. You have no idea what a super bored Clanner can do.

Anyway, many many MANY years later, the Inner Sphere was still squabbling like the little European nations they were and the Clans saw an opportunity to remake the Star League, which had crumbled like a cookie of unity. So the Clans attacked with their advanced OmniMechs, super advanced techno music, and ravenous Raccoon Dogs.

They were doing a very good job of stomping the Successor State's faces until ComStar, the phone/HPG service of the Inner Sphere, stomped THEIR faces for a change. Needless to say, the Clans were very embarrassed by being beaten by a glorified phone service and even MORE embarassed since they were your stereotypical sci-fi warrior society that hates being beaten.

I forgot what happens after that.

And in case you're wondering, I had a TON of fun writing this.

[perfectblue]

MechRaccoon, on 24 May 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

So the Clans attacked with their advanced OmniMechs, super advanced techno music, and ravenous Raccoon Dogs.

Well that just about explains it. Very funny and informative, thanks for the write up!

[Skylarr]

The Inner Sphere had already planned to take out all of the Jaguar's holding in the Inner Sphere. Trent just made it possible for them to eliminate the Clan altogether.

[Skylarr]

MechRaccoon, on 24 May 2012 - 04:34 PM, said:

In a nutshell, back in the time of the Star League, the Inner Sphere was separating into houses and starting to squabble and one man, Aleksander Kerensky, was not happy with this, He was the chief of the Star league's military, so when he decided to move away from the Inner Sphere in his Overlord-shaped moving van, he decided to take his military buddies with him in his Overlord-shaped van.

You left out the part were the 5 house lords fired him from his job. Alek did not want his HOMEYS who just spent year fighting together have to fight each other.

Edited by Skylarr, 24 May 2012 - 04:54 PM.

[HighlandWolf]

the clans also suffered losses due to inner sphere cunning and guile, something the clans as a whole were unfamiliar with in terms of style of war..they had their way..bidding on the amount of forces, the inner sphere is like us..whatever trickery or tactic you need to win is ok short of barbaric behaviour...

[Jaroth Corbett]

Mangonel Kell, on 23 May 2012 - 06:39 PM, said:

vlad was a ******! i'm just glad Phelan got Ranna in the end...and got back home.

now the real controversy is who was better. Phelan or Kai?

Whatever you think of him, I give Vlad a lot of respect. He revived the Wolves after they got absorbed.

[Rot Wulf]

Well March is inner sphere D-Day if they stick to the timeline and real time. They could also do some teasers/events as contact is lost with the pirate / periphery states in August/September from the clan advanced elements and preparations for the main invasion. So...... here we go.

[Skylarr]

I hated Vlad. But, he was what the Wolves need to keep themselves alive.