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[verybad]

WhiteRabbit, on 01 January 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

within the current system they would be easy prey for any other mech... and even without the speed nerf they'd probably still be the weakest assault (just not by such a large margin) (though they might be good at hunting fast meds)

Not if properly played. They'd essentially be faster, tougher Laserbacks without the speed limitations, these mechs DOMINATED. It wouldn't have the speed limitations. Hardpoints would likely be at least 7 energy so...I think you're underestimating what they would be like.

[Irreverence]

I actually thought for a while that the Charger would be one of the choices. Would be pretty scary.

[Davers]

verybad, on 01 January 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Not if properly played. They'd essentially be faster, tougher Laserbacks without the speed limitations, these mechs DOMINATED. It wouldn't have the speed limitations. Hardpoints would likely be at least 7 energy so...I think you're underestimating what they would be like.

And they didn't need XL engines either.

[WhiteRabbit]

verybad, on 01 January 2013 - 04:46 PM, said:

Not if properly played. They'd essentially be faster, tougher Laserbacks without the speed limitations, these mechs DOMINATED. It wouldn't have the speed limitations. Hardpoints would likely be at least 7 energy so...I think you're underestimating what they would be like.

if they fix the netcode speed isn't such a huge advantage anymore and i doubt that the speed-Laserback would dominate as it did before. (and the charger would be a lot easier to hit than those hunchies)

though i have to admit that i rather have more firepower than speed and therefor might have a slightly biased view

[Red squirrel]

verybad, on 01 January 2013 - 04:42 PM, said:

The Annhilator is able to carry 4 Gauss rifles, and at this time, is ONLY used by the Wolf Dragoons.

Sure? I thought the ANH had the ballistics in the arms (stock 4xLBX10)
So you could not put 4 Gauss in there (or am I wrong?)

4b4dd0n, on 01 January 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

Why not the annihilator? It gives us tons of ballistic hps and the tonnage to mount the big ones not only quad ac/2s -.-

So you imply that you can have only AC2 on a Mauler? Think again. You can get 4 UAC5 or even 4LBX10 in there
Or 2 AC10 + 2 AC5.
So I think if you want a ballistics Assault the Mauler is much more balanced for our current game.

[4b4dd0n]

LBX and UAC arent good weapons. SRM6 do a better job then the lbx and uac jam to often. Dont get me wrong i love both mechs. I played the mauler in mw4 through the campaign and same goes to the annihilator in mw3. I would love to see both. But i thought the mauler is one of the unseen? So we wont see this mech.

This makes the annihilator the only heavy ballistic mech in this time.

Im sure we get the banshee but it adds nothing special to the mech pool. A fast assault hurray. We have fast heavys, fast meds and suprise fast lights. I dont believe we need a fast assault.
And for the balance reasons. Now we have 6 ppc stalker its like a 4 gauss annihilator and it isnt a real big problem. The annihilator would also the slowest mech ingame. With engine restriction it could barely reach the atlas speed i think. So it pays his big punch with slow speed. Every light would take it out fast, if the annihilator is unprotected by friends.

For me the assault class is near dead. Without the stalker hype now and the ddc variant only few guys would play it. My dual gauss phract is a better killer then my stalker and atlas variants.
Lights are protected by the lagshield and meds can also ruin your day in a assault. And fast heavys like the fang/flame and the prhact variants bring the punsh and the mobility together.
So with the arrive of the orion we wont see awesomes anymore. It is the worst assault ingame yet.
We have no real breakthrough assault yet. The awesome can killed fast, the stalker is more a supporter and the atlas is useless except the ddc variant with ecm. It has no good weapon crits.
I think we need some assaults which are feared on the battlefield and not only big targets for the fast ones. So for me the banshee would be a worse choice. Why should i drive one if i can do the same in a phract, hunchie or a dragon.
And on top of all this you have to buy 3 very expensive variants to get the elite skills. I think i could have all lights at elite status if i wouldnt chose the stalker and atlas. So the assault class has to many drawbacks and not a good reason to drive it mainly.

Edited by 4b4dd0n, 02 January 2013 - 03:39 AM.

[Congzilla]

4b4dd0n, on 02 January 2013 - 03:38 AM, said:

LBX and UAC arent good weapons.

LOLOLOLOL!

[Kaijin]

Congzilla, on 02 January 2013 - 04:16 AM, said:

LOLOLOLOL!

LOL is sufficient, and actually makes much more sense than

'Laugh Out Loud Out Loud Out Loud Out Loud'

It's a pet peeve of mine.

[Norris J Packard]

Congzilla, on 02 January 2013 - 04:16 AM, said:

LOLOLOLOL!

The LBX is one of the worst weapons in the game. The UAC is only serviceable by having several.

[Red squirrel]

4LBX10 is obviously for the lolz.

But you just compared SRM6 to AC5 ?! SRYZL?
Have you ever tried using your SRM6 between 500 and 1000m?

And not the Mauler is not unseen you probably got it mixed up with the Marauder

Edited by Red squirrel, 02 January 2013 - 08:06 AM.

[Ngamok]

Didn't read all the replys. Next one will be the Highlander.

Edit: After reading more replies, I assume next announced one after the Highlander. Only one in the 95 ton class that everyone knows is the Banshee.

If they go out of having all the tonage classes, you can see the other choices like the Victor, Cyclops, Orion, Zues.

Edited by Ngamok, 02 January 2013 - 08:22 AM.

[Josef Nader]

Holding my breath for a King Crab.

Probably not going to happen, but all of my internet money if it did.

[Red squirrel]

Josef Nader, on 02 January 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

Holding my breath for a King Crab.

Probably not going to happen, but all of my internet money if it did.

MECH 20 ANNOUNCED:

Edited by Red squirrel, 02 January 2013 - 08:27 AM.

[4b4dd0n]

Red squirrel, on 02 January 2013 - 08:06 AM, said:

4LBX10 is obviously for the lolz.

But you just compared SRM6 to AC5 ?! SRYZL?
Have you ever tried using your SRM6 between 500 and 1000m?

And not the Mauler is not unseen you probably got it mixed up with the Marauder

Can you read? I compared the srm6 with lbx and the srm6 is much better. Its smaller, cheaper, needs fewer slots and does more damage. Yeah lbx is a good weapon, until your oponent is smart and let all your 1dmg bullets spread over his mech.
The lbx is useless, maybe you boat 4 or more it would become competitive. But why should i boat such a weapon if i can get some gauss or ac/20 instead?

Then it was my mistake to mixed this so we can hope to get the mauler. But again he can also mount srm6 so why should i use the ballistic crit points for lbx? I would give gauss, ac/10 or 20 a try, not the lbx. And the uac/5, was good in closed beta without the jamming^^ But now im not a friend they tend to jam in that moment which i needed it most.

[KEMikos]

Anyone see the ISN News Flash this morning?

Hint, hint, maybe?

http://mwomercs.com/...-isn-news-flash

[Red squirrel]

4b4dd0n, on 02 January 2013 - 10:06 AM, said:

Can you read? I compared the srm6 with lbx and the srm6 is much better. Its smaller, cheaper, needs fewer slots and does more damage. Yeah lbx is a good weapon, until your oponent is smart and let all your 1dmg bullets spread over his mech.
The lbx is useless, maybe you boat 4 or more it would become competitive. But why should i boat such a weapon if i can get some gauss or ac/20 instead?

Then it was my mistake to mixed this so we can hope to get the mauler. But again he can also mount srm6 so why should i use the ballistic crit points for lbx? I would give gauss, ac/10 or 20 a try, not the lbx. And the uac/5, was good in closed beta without the jamming^^ But now im not a friend they tend to jam in that moment which i needed it most.

Sorry then I misread your post.
Still as I said I like the LBX for the lolz. Recently I used a dual LBX10 HBK-4G.
I did quite well actually and had lost of fun. The 4xLBX Mauler is definitely not a competitive build
but it would surely be fun .

One area where the LBX work well is if your main target are lights since you always get some damage on them.
I once also had some fun with an LBX Cicada-3M. It was just too fast to hit precicesly with my AC10 because of the firing delay so I tried an LBX. If you get close enough the spread is not so bad.
But ultimately only Flamers and MGs are worse than the LBX.

KEMikos, on 02 January 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

Anyone see the ISN News Flash this morning?

Hint, hint, maybe?

http://mwomercs.com/...-isn-news-flash

Nooooo - but then there were already two news flashes about the Mauler (some while ago)

Edited by Red squirrel, 02 January 2013 - 02:07 PM.