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[MouseNo4]

Create a new game mode.

Remove the base capture, remove the timer.

Match is won by the team that destroys the other. No cheap wins by completely avoiding the enemy and going for the swift capture. This is MechWARrior, not capture the flag.

[Dagnome]

Conquest mode is scheduled to be launched soon, though I did wonder why they chose to do the "Capture the flag" game mode as the default beta mode instead of a death match. I cant help but disagree with your comment on removing the timer though, in any "FPS" game a time pushes players to keep the action moving and helps keep "camping" down to a minimum.

I do agree that I would like to see this game mode sooner than later even though I know it will be released eventually.

Edited by Dagnome, 10 November 2012 - 01:05 PM.

[Odins Fist]

MouseNo4, on 10 November 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Create a new game mode.

Remove the base capture, remove the timer.

Match is won by the team that destroys the other. No cheap wins by completely avoiding the enemy and going for the swift capture. This is MechWARrior, not capture the flag.

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That would be called TEAM DEATH MATCH...

[El Penguin]

What we have now is nothing like capture the flag... I would actually like to see that mode in the future though as an option (CTF).

[Dagnome]

El Penguin, on 10 November 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

What we have now is nothing like capture the flag... I would actually like to see that mode in the future though as an option (CTF).

Is this game mode only playable in commandos because that would be awesome!

[Kargush]

I've had matches where the last two mechs had either run out of ammo or had all usable weapons blown off. Battle was won on timer.

So no, keep the timer.

[Nathan Foxbane]

That is just a team death match. Assault implies you are you know, attacking an objective.

[El Penguin]

Dagnome, on 10 November 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

Is this game mode only playable in commandos because that would be awesome!

When the commandos capture the flag, the flag goes in there hands too! That'd look awesome

[Dagnome]

El Penguin, on 10 November 2012 - 01:09 PM, said:

When the commandos capture the flag, the flag goes in there hands too! That'd look awesome

WHY ARE WE NOT WORKING FOR PGI!
;p

[MouseNo4]

The maps are so tiny... the timer removal would make little difference anyway. You have very few places to hide anyway.

[Lavrenti]

I am constantly amazed by the never-ending progression of people who want to remove tactical decision-making from the game. If you don't like how it is at the moment surely it's better to expand the game rather than limit the players... but no. Apparently if people get a little freedom, they'll demand even less.

What you're suggesting is not an "assault" game mode, it's team deathmatch. It would be vulnerable to someone hiding in a corner of the map and powering down so no-one could find them, ensuring that the enemy team couldn't achieve victory even if they killed everyone else.
Just my opinion here, but it is also boring as ****. With no decisions to make about how or if to attack, defend, or play for time; we would just end up with a brawl. I like the fact that teams have to be alert to the possibility of someone trying to cap their base, it makes things a bit more difficult for them and gives fast mechs more things to worry about than just circling the enemy. It also adds a layer of choice for attackers - do we try for a cap, and if so how do we do it?
Personally I'd rather see MORE objective-based gameplay, not less.

[MouseNo4]

MouseNo4, on 10 November 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

The maps are so tiny... the timer removal would make little difference anyway. You have very few places to hide anyway.

[El Penguin]

MouseNo4, on 10 November 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

The maps are so tiny... the timer removal would make little difference anyway. You have very few places to hide anyway.

I'm sure in the future they will add Team Deathmatch. Right now there priority is more on there Conquest gamemode which I think is good since we need some unique gamemodes.

[MouseNo4]

The capture aspect removes the aspect of having to face the enemy. Why FIGHT the enemy when we can simply avoid them completely and win the match cheaply without a shot fired?

[Lavrenti]

MouseNo4, on 10 November 2012 - 01:16 PM, said:

The capture aspect removes the aspect of having to face the enemy. Why FIGHT the enemy when we can simply avoid them completely and win the match cheaply without a shot fired?

That depends on the enemy team agreeing with your plans, or at least not doing anything to prevent it. If they object, I think they might express their displeasure in the traditional way - through the medium of a barrage of firepower. At that point, whether there's a fight or not is up to you.

Edit: In fact, the capture option means that there's a way to force the enemy to fight. If you start capping and they don't do anything, they'll lose. If they want a chance at winning they HAVE to either fight or cap faster, and if there's been no combat so far and you started capping first they can't do the latter.

Edited by Lavrenti, 10 November 2012 - 01:20 PM.

[MouseNo4]

Lavrenti, on 10 November 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

That depends on the enemy team agreeing with your plans, or at least not doing anything to prevent it. If they object, I think they might express their displeasure in the traditional way - through the medium of a barrage of firepower. At that point, whether there's a fight or not is up to you.

Edit: In fact, the capture option means that there's a way to force the enemy to fight. If you start capping and they don't do anything, they'll lose. If they want a chance at winning they HAVE to either fight or cap faster, and if there's been no combat so far and you started capping first they can't do the latter.

Sorry wrong. That isnt how things go. Go play a few rounds and see what happens.

[0d1n]

Screw CTF, bring on a revival of MECH RUGBY!

[PYR0MANCER]

Lavrenti, on 10 November 2012 - 01:12 PM, said:

What you're suggesting is not an "assault" game mode, it's team deathmatch.

With no decisions to make about how or if to attack, defend, or play for time; we would just end up with a brawl.

This is what the random drops want though... No strategy, no teamplay, just run around like a fool... This will probably be introduced at some point to appease them cause they will be in the forums whining until they get it...

[MouseNo4]

Players are just too chicken to face the enemy... to afraid they might lose. So they avoid the enemy completely and race for the cap.

It has only gotten worse over the past couple months.

[Lavrenti]

MouseNo4, on 10 November 2012 - 01:23 PM, said:

Sorry wrong. That isnt how things go. Go play a few rounds and see what happens.

If that's true then it's the players that are ignoring the mechanisms of the game that are the problem, not so?