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[ObsidianSpectre]

In an effort to make things easier on the developers, if they choose to adjust the balance of ECM, I've decided to roundup all the suggestions threads created within this subforum along with a one sentence summary of the suggestion. This only includes threads in this forum, in no particular order. I've excluded threads that did not contain suggestions in the OP, but tried not to discriminate past that.

If I've missed any, or any new ones are created, or you believe I've mischaracterized any of these threads, feel free to post here and I'll edit them into this list.

Apologies for the layout, the current forum settings did not like me consolidating this better.

Comprehensive Issues and Suggestions for MWO
Reduce the ECM sensor reduction range from 75% to 50%, allow Counter to work on all ECM within 180m, mechs in disrupt cannot lock-on
[color="#b27204"]http://mwomercs.com/...stions-for-mwo/[/color]

Possible Balance to ECM
Make ECM increase base heat by 20-25% or lower mech speeds by 15-20%
http://mwomercs.com/...balance-to-ecm/

Crow's Massive Suggestion and Feedback Thread
ECMs don't stop LRMs or Streaks, but use a new sensor signature/strength system, see details inside.
http://mwomercs.com/...eedback-thread/

Electronic Warfare Needs More Design, Weapons Need More Balance
Allow mechs under ECM to be targeted at 250m out, lower LRM & streak damage
http://mwomercs.com/...d-more-balance/

Advanced Equipment to Counter ECM
Make NARC able to counter ECM, BAP reveals ECM bubbles on minimap
http://mwomercs.com/...to-counter-ecm/

ECM Counter Weapon Suggestion
Add ARM missiles that automatically target nearest ECM mech
http://mwomercs.com/...on-sugggestion/

ECM - An Analysis of the System and How to Fix It
Make ECM only cause missiles to lose tracking on entering bubble, impact info sharing but no cloak, and allow it on more mechs
http://mwomercs.com/...-how-to-fix-it/

Electronic Counter Measures
ECM only affects carrying mech when that mech is moving, works as now when stationary
http://mwomercs.com/...unter-measures/

Fixing ECM and Missile Boating at Once
Split the ECM module into separate components, allow ECM on more mechs, and require separate locks for each missile system
http://mwomercs.com/...oating-at-once/

BAP vs ECM
Let BAP counter ECM within 100m
http://mwomercs.com/...465-bap-vs-ecm/

[Tweak] ECM Adjustment
Make ECM disrupt only a single target
http://mwomercs.com/...ecm-adjustment/

How to fix ECM..Very OP as of now
Remove cloaking, missiles stop tracking within 500m of ECM, disrupt only removes minimap
http://mwomercs.com/...y-op-as-of-now/

ECM Balance. Make it available to most mechs.
Buff BAP, allow more mechs to carry ECM
http://mwomercs.com/...-to-most-mechs/

ECM and LRMS? How to fix it fix it fix it!
Remove ECM disrupt effects and effects on friendlies, make missile locks without LOS more difficult
http://mwomercs.com/...-fix-it-fix-it/

ECM & BAP Balance Suggestions
Make ECM in counter mode counter 2 mechs, BAP allows ignoring ECM, ECM/BAP related pilot tree modules
http://mwomercs.com/...ce-suggestions/

ECM - Separate Mode for Hidden and Disrupt
Split cloaking and disrupt into separate modes
http://mwomercs.com/...en-and-disrupt/

ECM Limitations
Make ECM generate heat as long as it's active
http://mwomercs.com/...cm-limitations/

Why ECM is too powerful
Remove cloaking effect and allow target locking in ECM
http://mwomercs.com/...s-too-powerful/

Some Proposed Streak and ECM Changes
Change ECM no-lock to longer lock and make streaks lose lock after each volley
http://mwomercs.com/...nd-ecm-changes/

[Sug] How to fix MWO's Match Making and ECM simply
Force mech variant uniqueness in matches
http://mwomercs.com/...and-ecm-simply/

[Sug] Yet Another LRM + SSRM + ECM + TAG/NARC Post
Remove cloaking effect in exchange for detailed info denial, locks always allowed, various other changes (see thread for details)
http://mwomercs.com/...m-tagnarc-post/

The Overpowered ECM Device
Change ECM to delay missile lock instead of preventing it and reduce hiding distance to 250m.
http://mwomercs.com/...red-ecm-device/

ECM Just make it work like it was intended in TT
ECM shouldn't prevent locks and BAP should give a direction to where ECM is
http://mwomercs.com/...intended-in-tt/

Ideas for better ECM
Change ECM to a weapon with an 8 second duration and 12 second recharge equipable on any mech
http://mwomercs.com/...for-better-ecm/

My suggestions for Ye Olde ECM
Make ECM very heavy and equipable by any mech.
http://mwomercs.com/...or-ye-olde-ecm/

Make ECM weigh a % of total mech tonnage
Make ECM weigh 10% of total mech weight
http://mwomercs.com/...l-mech-tonnage/

New modules and idea for ECM
Make ECM take time to switch between disrupt and counter modes
http://mwomercs.com/...d-idea-for-ecm/

Changes to ECM LB-10x and mech layout
Allow more mechs to carry ECM
http://mwomercs.com/...h-layout-saves/

ECM Rework for more Tactical Depth and Clarity
Redo ECM so it has stealth and jamming modes (see thread for details)
http://mwomercs.com/...th-and-clarity/

Streak Balance and ECM Balance
Remove ECM effects outside of 180m, make BAP reduce range further
http://mwomercs.com/...nd-ecm-balance/

ECM Split Poll
Split ECM, make all mechs able to carry at least one part
http://mwomercs.com/...ecm-split-poll/

Why ECMs are broken and how to fix them. Tabletop rules considered
Make ECM only counter BAP, NARC, C3, and other electronics packages
http://mwomercs.com/...les-considered/

ECM/Matchmaker groups/trial mechs AKA bots
Reduce number of mechs that can carry it to Cicada 3C and Raven 4X.
http://mwomercs.com/...mechs-aka-bots/

ECM Mechs
Change mechs that can carry ECM
http://mwomercs.com/...6897-ecm-mechs/

ECM Mode Suggestion
Split ECM modes further into Offensive, Defensive, and Counter modes
http://mwomercs.com/...ode-suggestion/

How about BAP and ECM counter eachother
A mech with BAP should not be affected by ECM, but should not get BAP bonuses under ECM
http://mwomercs.com/...nter-eachother/

SSRM and ECM suggestions
Make streaks immune to ECM but have them lose lock after every volley.
http://mwomercs.com/...cm-suggestions/

ECM Modules
Make ECM abilities separate pilot-tree modules instead
http://mwomercs.com/...98-ecm-modules/

Devs you need to tweak ECM. This is idiotic
Split ECM abilities into 4 and only allow 1 to be used at a time
http://mwomercs.com/...his-is-idiotic/

ECM (Electronics), XL Engines, Jumpjets, available as upgrades
Make ECM tiered upgrades in addition to current costs
http://mwomercs.com/...le-as-upgrades/

Change of ECM capable platforms
Change which light variants can carry ECM so they have fewer missile hardpoints
http://mwomercs.com/...able-platforms/

ECM and Matchmaking
Have matchmaking consider ECM as well as class for team balancing
http://mwomercs.com/...nd-matchmaking/

Balancing ECM
Add more counters and drawbacks to ECM
http://mwomercs.com/...-balancing-ecm/

Warnings of ECM
Give more warning when near ECM bubble
http://mwomercs.com/...arnings-of-ecm/

Poll: ECM and target lock
ECM carrying mechs should not be able to lock in disrupt mode
http://mwomercs.com/...nd-target-lock/

Guardian ECM (as of patch 18th dec 2012) and Suggested Solutions
Make ECM only have short range disrupt ability
http://mwomercs.com/...sted-solutions/

Edited by ObsidianSpectre, 09 January 2013 - 08:12 PM.

[Asmudius Heng]

Wow - thats an impressive list of many great suggestions. I hope the developers look at these without thining it is whining as there is a lot of awesome ideas (thanks for including my thread too!)

There are many ways to make this game better and more balanced and the community often come up things the developers might not think of.

[Daora Wing]

Great job
ECM really needs to be balanced, and here we have even more ideas how to do that than we need
Hopefully the Dev's take your post to heart and realize some of these great ideas.

[ObsidianSpectre]

Updated with more suggestion threads, placed at top of list.

[General Taskeen]

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[Sug] Yet Another LRM + SSRM + ECM + TAG/NARC Post
Remove cloaking effect in exchange for detailed info denial, locks always allowed, various other changes (see thread for details)
http://mwomercs.com/...m-tagnarc-post/

Contains Heng's suggestions and I posted mine in the same thread (instead of posting a new one). Also lumps C3 Master/Slave idea if added. Good read within.

Edited by General Taskeen, 09 January 2013 - 12:23 PM.

[Gabrion]

All I know is that thanks to ECM my missle boat is useless. I can't hit VISIBLE targets at all. ECM was made to help slow down missles not disable the entire system. In its current build we then would need to have a system that can deflect energy weapons. About the same concept. I expect to not be able to hit much but when you can see the other team but your targeting computer is blind there is no point to play.

[Zyllos]

I think you may have forgotten my suggestions also, but understandable due to them being part of an overall balancing thread:

Comprehensive Issues and Suggestions for MWO
Reduce the ECM sensor reduction range from 75% to 50%.
Allow Counter ECM to counter all ECM within 180m.
Mechs using Disrupt ECM can not lock-on (but can still target lock) with SSRMs and LRMs.
http://mwomercs.com/...stions-for-mwo/

Of course, I personally love Crow's Massive Suggestion and Feedback Thread. It feels fleshed out and interesting.

[ObsidianSpectre]

Zyllos, on 09 January 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

I think you may have forgotten my suggestions also, but understandable due to them being part of an overall balancing thread:

Fixed.

When I was gathering these, I only checked the threads with something ECMy in the title, so there are probably others I missed too.

[RogueGhost]

I vote for the #2 suggestion as its mine lol