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#21 Pariah Devalis

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 02:58 PM

What? You do not like it when the puggies on your team think OFFENSE is the best strategy when down two players?

In all seriousness, if you can somehow convince them that bunkering up, limiting incoming fire angles, and focusing down targets is a better idea then bum rushing a numerically superior force, you can pull off some crazy easy wins, even if totally outnumbered. Mech walks in, it explodes. Mech walks in, it explodes. Two mechs walk in, one is blocked by his buddy so cannot shoot, first one explodes then the other. Glorious.

#22 Kraven Kor

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:10 PM

View Postthenightisdark, on 04 January 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Apparently the thread I was going to post in is a bad person, so had to go to time out. How a thread is bad is beyond me, but so goes it.

I am tired of unfair fights. Any fight that is not Same # vs Same # is unfair. 8v8? Fine. 8v7? Lame.

What is the road map for fixing this? How do you deal with it when it happens to you?


PS: Yes, i was just in a 8v5. 2 DC's on my side, plus 1 AFK. I support this game, with real cash. I just want to have fun, not get stomped by unfair teams.


I love it when we end up with 1 or 2 disconnects on my team and still win. More often I lose, but them's the breaks, kid :)

And, really, I'd love to hear your proposals for how to ensure no disconnects, accidental or otherwise, on both teams, for the whole match, on any given hardware and network connection, to where there would never be an imbalanced drop.

I'd be all for it never happening, but it is going to happen.

#23 Woska

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:19 PM

They are doing what they can to prevent this. But there are variables beyond their control. If someone disconnects from internet provider issues, they can't stop that. If some moron is going to ignore the game while his mech is in combat, they can't do anything about that either.

So relax and accept the fact that while they can reduce this sort of thing somewhat, it's never going to go away completely. That's just one of the things you have to accept about online gaming.

#24 Mikhalio

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 03:53 PM

View Postthenightisdark, on 04 January 2013 - 02:02 PM, said:

Apparently the thread I was going to post in is a bad person, so had to go to time out. How a thread is bad is beyond me, but so goes it.

I am tired of unfair fights. Any fight that is not Same # vs Same # is unfair. 8v8? Fine. 8v7? Lame.

What is the road map for fixing this? How do you deal with it when it happens to you?


PS: Yes, i was just in a 8v5. 2 DC's on my side, plus 1 AFK. I support this game, with real cash. I just want to have fun, not get stomped by unfair teams.


Please go repost this thread in an Electronic Arts game forum. I suggest Battlefield Bad Company. Please report to us what the results are. I can't be bothered to type anymore than this in reply to your whining about a Metaverse Open Beta, that is testing PVP team based mech-simulator combat, where multiple builds all have defined doctrine roles and the developers need game engine stress feedback.

TLDR: Get out.

Edited by Mikhalio, 04 January 2013 - 03:54 PM.


#25 LarkinOmega

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

Did a 5v8 the other night. 2 DCs (one on comms with me, he wasn't happy) and 1 AFK. 3 Zero damage results at the end of the match.

It was quite enjoyable to tear up the overconfident enemy team. I got 4 Kills and 1K+ damage/exp in my Twin LBX (What? That's a terrible weapon! Can't kill anything!) Atlas-D.

TLDR: Matches are never even.

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Posted 04 January 2013 - 05:09 PM

The disconnects don't bother me as much as the matchmaker's occasional inability to fill all 8 slots. I've been in too many fights that start 7 v 8. And that's usually when one or more players on the smaller side disconnect, almost assuring a loss for everyone else. <sigh>

#27 SpiralRazor

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:54 AM

Son.......you dun brought a Large Pulse Laser to a Gauss fight.

#28 Kinjry

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 01:57 AM

help help the incomplete, not even implemented beta matchmaking is giving me unfair fights!


Oh wait, let's just be patient and wait for full implementation before complaining. Seems like a more constructive idea.

#29 Roadbuster

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 02:57 AM

I'm getting tired of this too.
Most of the time disconnects are the games fault. Black or yellow screen (happens alot less after the last patch), 4fps bug, no HUD, map always coming onscreen. People who experience these bugs often disconnect.
Sometimes people also disconnect because their team is missing 1-2 players.

I think the number of these disconnects will lower with every bugfix.

What shouldn't happen is that a game starts while a team is still waiting for members. There should be a check to make sure both teams are full before starting the counter.
And there should be a 30 second window for players to leave the game if they have a bug and a 60 second window where missing players are filled up.

Afk players are a different problem.
It really happens often that the afk player is piloting a heavy or assault mech, putting its team at a disadvantage.
What really makes me mad are the people who suddenly come to life when they are the last ones alive or if they take damage.

#30 shotokan5

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 03:52 AM

View PostRoadbuster, on 05 January 2013 - 02:57 AM, said:

I'm getting tired of this too.
Most of the time disconnects are the games fault. Black or yellow screen (happens alot less after the last patch), 4fps bug, no HUD, map always coming onscreen. People who experience these bugs often disconnect.
Sometimes people also disconnect because their team is missing 1-2 players.

I think the number of these disconnects will lower with every bugfix.

What shouldn't happen is that a game starts while a team is still waiting for members. There should be a check to make sure both teams are full before starting the counter.
And there should be a 30 second window for players to leave the game if they have a bug and a 60 second window where missing players are filled up.

Afk players are a different problem.
It really happens often that the afk player is piloting a heavy or assault mech, putting its team at a disadvantage.
What really makes me mad are the people who suddenly come to life when they are the last ones alive or if they take damage.


The last statement is the one that really gets me. Here you are one to one but you got some goof that went on line with no intention of playing. that takes the drama out of the game. as far as balance lol that will be here later as other thing s are fixed. At this point I take the biggest or smallest shut your mouth shaft. Old song but make a point. 7 super mechs and us with a balanced group lol splat. Its sort of funny when you thing and learn from it. if other groups take big ones then well? It will be balances in the end but for now have fun be thankful what was the name of that 200 ton mech? I hooked up last night with another raven and when it was with no help we had 4 piles of scrap metal. See size isn't everything.

#31 Draxtier

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Posted 05 January 2013 - 04:13 AM

People are going to DC or be AFK. That problem will never be entirely eliminated. The best that can be hoped for is to make it as rare as possible. But MWO is in Beta and still suffers from a number of very serious bugs which cause people to load in to the game with every intention of playing, only to find that playing is impossible because they have 4FPS or a big yellow smear instead of a proper view of the battle.

What are PGI doing about it? Everything they can in as expedient a manner as they can manage. But the fixes we want take time.

With that said, it's worth pointing out that the situation with DCs and AFKers has improved tremendously over the past few patches, thanks to changes in the reward system. There are now far fewer people choosing not to play in order to exploit the system, so progress is being made. Progress will continue to be made, and the imbalance issues will get better.





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