144 replies to this topic

[Rifter]

Valore, on 07 January 2013 - 07:46 AM, said:

Its fine Tice, its only Malice who's really trolling. As long as no one goes and starts going down to his level, they shouldn't lock the thread. Wouldn't be surprised if that's his intention though, which is why I'm refraining from replying to his insults.



And Malice, I found this gem in your posting history:



You're one to talk about irony when you're fostering the exact kind of behaviour you accuse people of.

Yeah that's some hypocrisy for sure, nice find. But as i mentioned above best to attack his augment not him personally. Although he did start the insult throwing.

[Valore]

M A L I C E, on 07 January 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:

It's not hypocrisy whatsoever because the post was about the devs not wanting to post in the forums, not other users.

Are you a dev?

Then you have no point to make.

Again, the reading comprehension around here is astoundingly low.

And you don't see any irony at all in complaing people are rude and hostile, saying this is unacceptable behaviour, while you foster the exact kind of behaviour?

Edited by Valore, 07 January 2013 - 07:54 AM.

[Inertiaman]

BrotherEJ, on 07 January 2013 - 07:47 AM, said:

Did any of you read this https://mwomercs.com/terms
Beta tester makes suggestions - keeps playing

Your tone is appreciated - genuinely. However the actual feedback cycle one might expect from a beta isn't really reflected in real terms.

[Joseph Mallan]

M A L I C E, on 07 January 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:

Well that's good then, they're getting treated for their issues.

That's exactly the point I'm making. It's like there's a heap of untreated ADD sufferers in this forum.

They need help. I really want them to get some.

Then may I suggest maybe you should stop acting like an ashat? Though a lot of what you try to say has merit, your delivery ruins any hope of being taken seriously. Respect is earned by being given.

[Pando]

Didn't vote, options are lacking.

[Inertiaman]

I'm fairly glad you live on your own planet and don't need to share ours.

Edited by Inertiaman, 07 January 2013 - 07:56 AM.

[Pando]

M A L I C E, on 07 January 2013 - 07:33 AM, said:

It doesn't get more real than this:
Let's Face Facts

^ this

[Rifter]

M A L I C E, on 07 January 2013 - 07:50 AM, said:

Well that's good then, they're getting treated for their issues.

That's exactly the point I'm making. It's like there's a heap of untreated ADD sufferers in this forum.

They need help. I really want them to get some.



It's not hypocrisy whatsoever because the post was about the devs not wanting to post in the forums, not other users.

Are you a dev?

Then you have no point to make.

Again, the reading comprehension around here is astoundingly low.

So what you are saying is its cool to attack other people and be a a$$hat just not to the devs?

[Pok Gai]

Inertiaman, on 07 January 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

I'm fairly glad you live on your own planet and don't need to share ours.

Funny thing is, you rarely see this behaviors in public, and if it did occur in public nine times out of 10 the culprit would be either removed from premises, and/or suffer alot of bodily harm

[Joseph Mallan]

M A L I C E, on 07 January 2013 - 07:56 AM, said:

Ah I see, yeah you all get to take the "high road" now that you've collectively been called out on your utter BS.

Great.

Mission accomplished.

Now stay that way.

Sir I have almost always taken the high road. I have almost always refrained from personal attacks, And HAVE always refrained from use of personal attack using genetic or medical conditions as a basis. These are things many have no control of.

I said it once, here it is again. Respect is earned by being given.

[Valore]

Its okay guys, he's happy with the dev's performance, some of us are not. But he doesn't care about helping us understand why he's taken the view he has, that's his perogative.

BrotherEJ made a good post about how even if a bunch of us ragequit, the game goes on.

The thing is though, most of us aren't threatening to ragequit. Most still play the game.

Devs don't have to listen to us, but history has shown they apparently did at one point have pretty lofty ideals for the game. And they did listen, or at least tried to.

Its a worrying trend that that has changed so quickly. I think many of us were a bit hesitant when they made the decision to go Open Beta. This was followed by a bunch of problems and issues, like DHS, frustrations with MM and netcode, etc.

I don't think being concerned is strange at all. Not being concerned would seem the less reasonable option.

Edited by Valore, 07 January 2013 - 08:03 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Pok Gai, on 07 January 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

Funny thing is, you rarely see this behaviors in public, and if it did occur in public nine times out of 10 the culprit would be either removed from premises, and/or suffer alot of bodily harm

Specially in my presence.

[Inertiaman]

M A L I C E, on 07 January 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

I tell it like it is.

I bet you've used that justification to yourself plenty after losing friends irl due to your terrible personality. Textbook stuff.

[StalaggtIKE]

Noth, on 06 January 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:

Honestly, I see the player base killing this game more than the devs because no matter how much the devs tell us or how much content is brought out unless it is stupidly unrealistic amounts, people will still ***** and complain that it is not enough, wrong, has bugs (something all games have), isn't the content they wanted, thinks it was done better in a completely different game, think they could do better, think it sucks because it's not TT, or like a previous game.

People creating things, while others critic it has been going on since..., I don't know, FOREVER. This isn't something new, or specific to this game alone. It's the difference between success and failure. Either you learn from the criticism or fold and die.

Edited by StalaggtIKE, 07 January 2013 - 08:07 AM.

[Mechteric]

If you patch it, they will come

[Comguard]

The last weeks were rather hard. After Closed Beta things seemed to get worse: new bugs were introduced, the performance decreased, the development was very slow.

The last big December-patch improved a lot. But shows still old PGI-patterns. Best example, ECM: first they tell us how hard they are testing it to balance it. Then they release an obiously unbalanced ECM. Then: silence. Typical PGI-behavious.

PGI is really not the best developer on this planet. Sometimes they are even quite amateurish. The last patch gave me hope. But then I remember the time where every patch was one step forward and one step backward...

That they have stopped talking about Community Warfare worries me the most. And I agree that Clan-Mechs will be the real moneygrab.

[whiskey tango foxtrot]

Indifference is setting in......

[Valore]

Comguard, on 07 January 2013 - 08:27 AM, said:

The last weeks were rather hard. After Closed Beta things seemed to get worse: new bugs were introduced, the performance decreased, the development was very slow.

The last big December-patch improved a lot. But shows still old PGI-patterns. Best example, ECM: first they tell us how hard they are testing it to balance it. Then they release an obiously unbalanced ECM. Then: silence. Typical PGI-behavious.

PGI is really not the best developer on this planet. Sometimes they are even quite amateurish. The last patch gave me hope. But then I remember the time where every patch was one step forward and one step backward...

That they have stopped talking about Community Warfare worries me the most. And I agree that Clan-Mechs will be the real moneygrab.

It was unfortunately the same case for DHS.

Delayed, claims delay was for more testing, then released not working, then patched to not being DHS, while the community basically was left completely in the dark.

I'm not looking for reasons to hold over PGI's head, but its not an encouraging pattern they've set for themselves at all.

Clear patch notes, and better communication for stat fiends who enjoy the detail and help the community so much with their guides, these would eliminate a lot of the problems in itself.

Its very frustrating seeing how that isn't even tried. Instead we have the ugly episode with the CW discussions that have just made people even less confident.

M A L I C E, on 07 January 2013 - 08:36 AM, said:

Man, if PGI seems amateurish to you, you must not play many AAA titles.

EA titles?

Ubisoft titles?

Yeah....

Which is why I don't buy any more EA exclusive titles, and I seldom touch Ubisoft releases with a 10 foot pole. I know the way they operate, and I act accordingly.

Same thing with PGI, the way they've been doing things isn't changing for the better. Some of us voice our opinions.

Honestly, as many have mentioned, the one who's voiced his opinion in the most offensive and rude way in this thread is you. Ironic, as I said concerning your earlier post on us being a rude community.

Edited by Valore, 07 January 2013 - 08:41 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

M A L I C E, on 07 January 2013 - 08:03 AM, said:

Look man, if you really feel that dejected from my commentary, maybe you need to go reflect on that a while since I've obviously hit a nerve.

Maybe keep your mouth secured if you don't want to be put in your place.

I tell it like it is. I don't need to mince words with whiners.



Good, if you don't devolve into meaningless schyte like so many others around here, then we have no issues with each other.

Now, if you're going to attempt to defend the utter schyte that's posted here daily, then enjoy being called out on it.

No problem. I will defend you when you deserve it. Until then...

[Valore]

zomg I see Paul reading the thread.

Dear Paul, please note I wasn't trying to be mean in the OP, this is really a big sense of frustration than anything else.

I have a whole clan, and I know a lot of affiliated clans, who are just suffering a bad case of 'what now' burnout.

And its sad because we obviously really like the game

So please don't be sad