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Poll: PGI Should remove the word BETA from the Game (98 member(s) have cast votes)

PGI Should remove the word BETA from the Game Yes/No?

  1. Yes, Once you start trying to sell MC your game has launched! (41 votes [41.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 41.84%

  2. No, I don't mind they charge people for a BETA and prioritize MC fluff over Patches/Real Content! (57 votes [58.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 58.16%

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#1 Imperius

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:53 AM

Feel free to express your feelings about how PG/IGP manages the game MC > Screen Shots > Dodged questions in the Ask the Devs > Bugs > Mechs > Maps > Balance > Netcode.

I paid 120$ to see this game become a dream come true. Not to see my efforts used on a Cockpit Bobble Heads and Christmas Lights. Or NON permanant paid jobs "That's just a scam" I remember them saying we believe once you buy something it's yours,,, Oh really??? Then why isn't the paint mine?

2 Game Types
We have 4 Maps
12 Mech chassies
A load of balance and netcode issues
Rampant D/C'ers AFK'ers
Shoddy hit detection
Blurry view distance (Even worse is the 4x Zoom)
No collision
...I can keep going

BETA TEST

Computers. a quality-control technique in hardware or software is subjected to trial in the environment for which it was designed, usually after debugging by the manufacturer and immediately "prior to marketing."


Edited by Imperius, 07 January 2013 - 04:50 AM.


#2 Apoc1138

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 03:56 AM

biased poll is massively biased

#3 Wizard Steve

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:03 AM

I think PGI should charge MC to create a thread on the forums.

They should charge extra for polls.

#4 Ilwrath

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:07 AM

What a biased poll..

"No, I don't mind they charge people for a BETA and prioritize MC fluff over Patches/Real Content!"

could be

"No, I am stupid as ****"

You will get zero constructive feedback on such a poll.

#5 PiemasterXL

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:08 AM

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#6 Imperius

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:16 AM

View PostIlwrath, on 07 January 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

What a biased poll..

"No, I don't mind they charge people for a BETA and prioritize MC fluff over Patches/Real Content!"

could be

"No, I am stupid as ****"

You will get zero constructive feedback on such a poll.

Not biased at all. They make sure to put in/remove MC cockpit junk before they patch, fix bugs, or balance the game. It's just the truth you don't want to see. Even the Maps we have right now have crappy clip boxes. I don't know how many times I have seen my shot hit an invisible wall next rock I was using as cover.

View PostApoc1138, on 07 January 2013 - 03:56 AM, said:

biased poll is massively biased

How so prove me wrong,,, I dare you!

View PostWizard Steve, on 07 January 2013 - 04:03 AM, said:

I think PGI should charge MC to create a thread on the forums.

They should charge extra for polls.

So the forums can be as empty as their 8 man matchmaking? You sound real smart. /sarcasm

Edited by Imperius, 07 January 2013 - 04:16 AM.


#7 PANZERBUNNY

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:18 AM

They are going to drag out the use of BETA as long as possible.

#8 Imperius

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:24 AM

View PostPANZERBUNNY, on 07 January 2013 - 04:18 AM, said:

They are going to drag out the use of BETA as long as possible.

They are going to drag out the "excuse" of BETA as long as possible.

"Fixed for ya :)"

#9 PANZERBUNNY

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:25 AM

Thks. I'm not on the ball today.

Glad someone is awake to catch these things.


So ya, we mean, when the game closes, the term "Beta" will no longer be in use.

#10 Joseph Mallan

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:26 AM

Like how you stacked the poll. Voted no in spite of your weak attempt to shame me.

#11 PANZERBUNNY

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:28 AM

I will catch up to your post counts on one of these late nights.

#12 Barghest Whelp

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:33 AM

Hah! Your biased poll does not fool me. I still voted no. The fact is, they have to make money, otherwise the game will fail no matter what, and people are buying the fluff items.

So yeah.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:37 AM

View PostWizard Steve, on 07 January 2013 - 04:03 AM, said:

I think PGI should charge MC to create a thread on the forums.

They should charge extra for polls.

But you get MC for each reply on one of your threads and for each vote on one of your polls.

#14 Imperius

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:41 AM

View PostBarghest Whelp, on 07 January 2013 - 04:33 AM, said:

Hah! Your biased poll does not fool me. I still voted no. The fact is, they have to make money, otherwise the game will fail no matter what, and people are buying the fluff items.

So yeah.

Oh, so 5 million isn't enough? I think it is enough to at least to make a stable game without the plague of an FPS bug or the YELLOW screen of death.

You know the game wont make money if it plays like crap,,, Also, it's not a BETA when people start to pay for it.


BETA TEST

Computers. a quality-control technique in hardware or software is subjected to trial in the environment for which it was designed, usually after debugging by the manufacturer and immediately "prior to marketing."


Edited by Imperius, 07 January 2013 - 04:50 AM.


#15 Ilwrath

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:45 AM

View PostImperius, on 07 January 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Oh, so 5 million isn't enough? I think it is enough to at least to make a stable game without the plague of an FPS bug or the YELLOW screen of death.


Was a thread about that cash yesterday. For some reason it was moved to off-topic :-p

Some speculate that part of the 5 mill has been moved over to other projects, like Super bass fishing 3.

#16 Dyson Ring

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:51 AM

I'm sorry, but I refuse to vote until you put a SERIOUS option for no.

But to several of the problems you raise.

2 Game Types. Yes, one of which was introduced on the 18th of December. Less than a month ago.

We have 4 Maps. Plus a variant for 3 of them. Also 2 more are coming in soon.

12 Mech chassies. And each of them have at least 3 variants each. Plus we are getting one a month. (Also it's Chassis', but that's only a minor nitpick on my part).

A load of balance and netcode issues. IIRC, this upcoming patch should have some fixes coming for the netcode, but we also have had balance changes every major patch.

Rampant D/C'ers AFK'ers. And this is PGI's fault how?

Shoddy hit detection. See above about netcode.

Blurry view distance (Even worse is the 4x Zoom). Can't really disagree about the view distance, but the 4x zoom as far as I know is a limitation with CryEngine 3.

No collision. Taken out because of netcode issues. If the next patch improves enough, it'd be silly for them not to bring it back, don't you agree?

...I can keep going. Please do.

#17 Imperius

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:52 AM

View PostIlwrath, on 07 January 2013 - 04:45 AM, said:


Was a thread about that cash yesterday. For some reason it was moved to off-topic :-p

Some speculate that part of the 5 mill has been moved over to other projects, like Super bass fishing 3.

I hope not.


Edited by Imperius, 07 January 2013 - 04:54 AM.


#18 Triggerhippy

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:53 AM

View PostImperius, on 07 January 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Oh, so 5 million isn't enough? I think it is enough to at least to make a stable game without the plague of an FPS bug or the YELLOW screen of death.

You know the game wont make money if it plays like crap,,, Also, it's not a BETA when people start to pay for it.


Frankly no 5mill is a drop in the ocean -you have any idea how much it costs to just pay staff, building rental, servers internet connections insurance, loan repayments ? Clearly not.

That 5mill would have gone before it even hit their account. I know it sounds like a lot to 1 person but trust me in business (especially this business) it's barely enough for the petty cash tin.

PC game production is comparable to the movie industry in terms of cost, actually it's about twice as expensive but the profit potential is also atleast twice that of a Hollywood film too.

What sort of a movie do you get for 5mill, you get an arty black and white in French than no one can be arsed to watch other than a few critics.

I think you could use some real life experiance mate before making anymore sweeping statements, you will sound less foolish.

Edited by Triggerhippy, 07 January 2013 - 05:02 AM.


#19 Ilwrath

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 04:59 AM

View PostImperius, on 07 January 2013 - 04:52 AM, said:



But that is some sweet fishing! Almost like the real thing.

Ofc Super bass fishing 3 will be free to play so no big catch unless you have premium activated.
10$ for different colour on the boat.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 05:27 AM

Please, go and try out The War Z before you complain about how "horrible" we have it here. This game is more beta than that game will ever be. If you want your opinion heard, then don't buy or spend MC. I have yet to buy more MC, or spend it on any of the items. The items are to expensive, and the paint job thing is just not right. Even so, as others have said, the company does need to make money. The programmers have to pay rent, and eat. That said, I don't like paying to over priced stuff. So I choose not to buy things so that hopefully they will get the hint and lower the prices, and make paint jobs not be a useless drain on actual money.

Edit: Minor Fixes

Edited by FelixBlucher, 07 January 2013 - 05:29 AM.






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