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#21 Jordax

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:39 AM

I dont play this game because it's a "shooter" i play it because it's battletech related. if this was an other mechcommander i'd play it also. But if this games fails i'll go entertain myself with other Battletech products like megamek, and the coming MWtactics.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:44 AM

MWtactics at their current state is weaker then Megamek.
But they are in CB too and improving fast. And the Animations are very nice.

And i never said this as i am not supposed to tell that i have a Beta Key.

Edited by Elkarlo, 07 January 2013 - 07:46 AM.


#23 MustrumRidcully

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:49 AM

View PostElkarlo, on 07 January 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

MWtactics at their current state is weaker then Megamek.
But they are in CB too and improving fast. And the Animations are very nice.

And i never said this as i am not supposed to tell that i have a Beta Key.

But you couldn't know this, since you clearly don't have a Beta Key, otherwise you wouldn't be posting this. Right?

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:50 AM

megamek is awesome, specialy when you play on a server with a campaign. Those who like that game should check out http://www.mekwarsle.../Home_Page.html

#25 FrostPaw

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:50 AM

World moved on, we play other games we enjoy, other games get our money. PGI devs on the other hand....they have troubles.

#26 bug3at3r

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:50 AM

View PostElkarlo, on 07 January 2013 - 07:44 AM, said:

MWtactics at their current state is weaker then Megamek.
But they are in CB too and improving fast. And the Animations are very nice.

And i never said this as i am not supposed to tell that i have a Beta Key.


Hypothetically, if you where in the Beta, how would you compare the fun factor between TT and Tactics? Significant difference or is it the TT in a 3D world? I.e. all TT rules apply?

#27 Rifter

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 07:52 AM

I enjoy all games not just mech games, so finding another one will not be hard. I just bought Skyrim over the holidays and intend to dump some serious time into it and some mods for it.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:00 AM

There's a World of Darkness MMO coming out by the people who make EVE Online....

#29 Atlas3060

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:05 AM

If this falls apart I have various back up plans.
*My Sunday game with the group and eventually establish campaigns with certain players, while enjoying pickup games with everyone.
*Megamek
*Mechwarrior Tactics
*Firefall
*Guild Wars 2
*LOTRO
*Pop in Star Trek DVDs while playing STO
*Actually catch up on my Battlecorps stories
*Finally there's always derping around in Minecraft for 3 hours and wonder where the day went.

#30 PANZERBUNNY

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:10 AM

View PostCodejack, on 07 January 2013 - 08:00 AM, said:

There's a World of Darkness MMO coming out by the people who make EVE Online....


I actually have faith that it will be true to its source and amazing.

I enjoy EVE and from what I can tell there will be hardcore features.

PERMANENT death via bloodhunts if you are a REAL moron and a$$hat.

Get readyyyyyyyy...!!

#31 Penance

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:23 AM

what happens when the cynics are right?


We told you so. :P

#32 Kylere

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:32 AM

I guess I missed a point of clarity. I am really only looking at the BT IP, I have a max account in UO, EQ1, AO, DAOC, EQ2, WHO, BSGO, STO etc.. I am never starting another game that has an elf in it. Unless the elves are ALL killable.

I love the Battletech IP and was so happy to see it reappear (Have checked out tactics, but the card game stuff? Nah, not doing it) I guess I was just hoping that I had missed something or that someone knew what happened to the IP if this game fails. I have played every computer version of the game to date, even the awful Linux versions.
If MWO added the things below I would LOVE it. Heck I would be happy combining BT: The Crescent Hawks Inception with the current combat drops rather than the turn based combat but I really want;

1. A persistent world, that changes with the ebb and flow of houses/clans (Though honestly, I could enjoy a 3025-3049 game without any clans)
2. Units with supply limits/mercs with contract limits
3. External to mech avatar that has skills
4. Capturable Mechs
5. Scrap and salvage/Repair and rearm meaning something
6. Feeling the tech and availability limitations of the universe
7. Boarding Dropships, external Jumpship travel and jumpship hull combat in space!
8. Solaris as a place you can travel to and play gladiator
9. Tech skills
10. Squishies/LRM hover/PPC tanks I can ignore for balance reasons but they would be cool.

We all cannot be a Liao (Xiang) or a Victor Steiner-Davion, but the game would be fun regardless.

Edited by Kylere, 07 January 2013 - 08:33 AM.


#33 Penance

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:35 AM

View PostKylere, on 07 January 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

I guess I missed a point of clarity. I am really only looking at the BT IP, I have a max account in UO, EQ1, AO, DAOC, EQ2, WHO, BSGO, STO etc.. I am never starting another game that has an elf in it. Unless the elves are ALL killable.

I love the Battletech IP and was so happy to see it reappear (Have checked out tactics, but the card game stuff? Nah, not doing it) I guess I was just hoping that I had missed something or that someone knew what happened to the IP if this game fails. I have played every computer version of the game to date, even the awful Linux versions.
If MWO added the things below I would LOVE it. Heck I would be happy combining BT: The Crescent Hawks Inception with the current combat drops rather than the turn based combat but I really want;
1. A persistent world, that changes with the ebb and flow of houses/clans (Though honestly, I could enjoy a 3025-3049 game without any clans)
2. Units with supply limits/mercs with contract limits
3. External to mech avatar that has skills
4. Capturable Mechs

5. Scrap and salvage/Repair and rearm meaning something

6. Feeling the tech and availability limitations of the universe

7. Boarding Dropships, external Jumpship travel and jumpship hull combat in space!

8. Solaris as a place you can travel to and play gladiator

9. Tech skills

10. Squishies/LRM hover/PPC tanks I can ignore for balance reasons but they would be cool.

We all cannot be a Liao (Xiang) or a Victor Steiner-Davion, but the game would be fun regardless.



I've always felt that BT is the perfect game universe for a killer MMORPG that combines the traditional RPG elements ala WoW, Rift, etc, as well as adds the fighting element in mechs, tanks, spacecraft, and atmospheric flights.

They pick a time period...3060 for example, then go from there. Could make for a huge and dynamic game.

Edited by Penance, 07 January 2013 - 08:36 AM.


#34 Jman5

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:41 AM

View Postsoarra, on 07 January 2013 - 07:29 AM, said:

lol all game forums are like this,go check out hawkens, they lock and delete negative threads non stop and theres a lot of them.
http://community.pla...-what-happened/

Having spent time on a lot of game forums over the years this is pretty accurate. A vocal minority bang pots and wail endlessly no matter how good the game is. They decided long ago that the game failed and nothing will change their mind. Instead they will just keep moving the goalpost around so that they can claim PGI is always lacking.

What is even more sad is that they will continue playing this game for years, despite claiming that the game is terrible.

It wont be until they move on to another game that they will talk pleasantly about how much fun they had playing MWO.

Edited by Jman5, 07 January 2013 - 09:00 AM.


#35 Pando

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:42 AM

View PostKylere, on 07 January 2013 - 07:05 AM, said:

I read dire pronouncements about the game on these forums every day. From ECM to MC to LRM to SSRM, it is always something. We all have issues that we think will kill the game. Okay, I get it, I personally feel that if they make the konsole-kiddies happy and add third person and respawns I am going to quit so I understand it.

My real question is simple, if this game collapses where do we go?

Iron Brigade? LOL
Hawken? LOL
Some reworked version of a ten year old platform? Not laughable but still sad.

I do not want some silly hammer weapons from a bot that may as well be a person carrying weapons game. I do not want televisions or refrigerators, I want my MTV to be MechTV.

Where does the IP go it PGI blows it?


it's like one of the DEV's said; when everyone is complaining about everything being over-powered - the game is near balanced.

That does not mean there aren't things that need to be tweaked. IMO they're a long long way off from blowing it.

Edited by Pando, 07 January 2013 - 08:43 AM.


#36 Jetfire

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 08:52 AM

Star Citizen?

Seriously though, the cynics aren't right. PGI is making progress, it takes times to hire people and get them up to speed and they are breaking new ground with the cryengine in a lot of cases. Given the time frame to now from when the Founders program ended and the size/quality of the Dec Patch I think it is very likely that the Jan/Feb/Mar patches will show a marked increase in output and fixes on PGI's part. If not they will be in pretty dire straights.

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 09:45 AM

View PostMustrumRidcully, on 07 January 2013 - 07:38 AM, said:

Oh, this reminds me... Shadowrun Returns!


Do tell

#38 Dirus Nigh

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Posted 07 January 2013 - 10:41 PM

Shadowrun Returns

Shadowrun Online

Mechwarrior Tactics

Mechwarrior Living Legends

What ever new interesting indie game catches my eye on steam.

I still read, I'll just read a little more.

Going to the movie theater.

Walking around town more.

Maybe look for a gaming group in my city.

I'll be doing this stuff any way.

#39 Adrienne Vorton

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:18 AM

well i play a few other games, though it would be a black day for my mech warrior´s heart if MWO would ever shut down, for which reason ever...

View PostDirus Nigh, on 07 January 2013 - 10:41 PM, said:

Shadowrun Returns

Shadowrun Online

rrrrrraaawrrrr....so waiting for those :)

#40 Dirus Nigh

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:39 AM

View PostAdrienne Vorton, on 09 January 2013 - 07:18 AM, said:

well i play a few other games, though it would be a black day for my mech warrior´s heart if MWO would ever shut down, for which reason ever...


rrrrrraaawrrrr....so waiting for those ;)


Shadowrun Returns just started taking pre-orders. So close!





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