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[Goose Igaly]

I don't come on the forums much, and when I do the forums are mostly full of the rage flavor of the week. I want to take a moment to express my satisfaction with the game. In doing so, I will be patting myself on the back, so please forgive.

I roll an Atlas most matches; I'm not saying it's the best mech, it's just the one in which I perform best. I typically drop with 3 other buds of mine: A Catapult, a Dragon, and a floater (depending on who is on that night, usually a lighter mech). I have been destroyed by light mechs swarming me, and I have snipe-cored lights hauling butt with two wheelbarrols (sp). Both of these factors I am perfectly ok with.

The other night we dropped into Frozen Forest Colony. My four-man went through the cave to the left to come up behind the enemy. Sadly, most of our team got burned down relatively quickly and we were at a major disadvantage once we engaged from the flank. We were able to focus fire down two range before we got close in (I was carrying ECM for the match). A third range was smart and took cover behind the mini mountain in the center; we were able to widdle him down as he poked his head out while we were engaing the rest of his team. Before long it was down to myself (Atlas, SSRMs, AC20, 2 LL) and my Cat buddy (dual AC20s) against 4 (2 Cataphracts, 1 Atlas, 1 Catapult). We were all beat up.

We managed to burn down the Atlas right as my Cat buddy got destroyed. It was now heavily damaged me vs. 2 Catas and a Catapult. The catapult went down within seconds due to his crumpled front. My problem came in with the Cataphracts. With my SSRMs gone and my AC20 destroyed, I got into a waltz with the other two and managed to burn one down with my 2 LL. As he died, they blew off my left arm (and my LL with it). With one LL and 1 Cataphract to go, we started walking circles around each other. Focusing on his core I was able to destroy him before he could core me.

High adrenaline, shot nerves, cheers through Skype, and a legend that is still discussed. So what went right?

A mixture of things are in play here. Of course I enjoy the ego boost from my team mates, but it was them who really helped to dish the damage to the others so I could manage to solo them. My Atlas is far from invincible; in some ways an Atlas can be a sitting duck if caught with its pants down.

While I like to fantasize about the enemy pilots cowering in fear as this near-death Atlas trolls them, I recognize that I may have been going against inexperienced pilots. Perhaps they were indeed experienced pilots who simply got excited about the odds and failed to hold their aim true. I managed to keep my cool and, after setting up the circle dance with the others, focused only on holding my LL on their center. Aiming, folks, is key. I have lost many a duel by allowing my lasers to move all around the enemy mech; hold your aim true and trust your weapons to do their job.

Do I believe that this is an affirmation that Atlas' are overpowered? Not in the slightest. I was fortunate that I was not running an XL engine or I'd have been gone when they blew my arm off (it took the torso with it). Either they were unable to track a moving target and hold their aim on my center, or they were aiming at the wrong spots. Not sure, my eyes were on their armor readouts.

SSRMs overpowered? Not really; I had 3 and, while they do nice damage before I close the gap, I'm considering moving back to SRM4s. Besides, at this point in the encounter, those had long been broken. Likely an ammo explosion (I hate cases).

By all means, we should have lost the match, but enough little things clicked into play just right to allow me to pull out the win. This is the way it should be; odds stacked against, still able to pull it off by the skin of your teeth.

As I said in the beginning, I certainly patted myself on the back in this post, but I recognize that my team mates set up the scenario, without meaning to, by doing the damage that they did. We went on to the next match to be destroyed by a pack of hunchbacks. But we don't let it get to us; we win some, we lose some. At the end of the day, enjoy the game. If you can't, find something else to play.

[Agent of Change]

Glad you enjoy it. i feel largely the same way and I've had moments like yours.

It's got a bunch of rough edges and is a long way from done but at it's core there is some really enjoyable teamplay and mechanics in place.

[DaZur]

Clearly your not paying attention to the plethora of forum posts indicating what rancid tripe MW:O is and you clearly are trolling if I'm to believe you are actually having "fun"...

Some people... SHEEZ!

[Agent of Change]

DaZur, on 08 January 2013 - 10:39 AM, said:

Clearly your not paying attention to the plethora of forum posts indicating what rancid tripe MW:O is and you clearly are trolling if I'm to believe you are actually having "fun"...

Some people... SHEEZ!

Damn... i forgot,

SORRY, sorry everybody i accidentally had fun. Will someone please report my post so that i can be banned for enjoying the game.

[Goose Igaly]

Game Forums are like Customer Service hotlines. The only people that ever call in are those that are upset. You rarely hear from those who like what's happening because they are too busy enjoying the game. Morale of the story: stop catering to crybabies. I still haven't figured out how an AC20 is considered splash damage...

[StalaggtIKE]

That sounded a lot of fun. Coming from a BF background, we call these memories Battlefield moments. I think in this case we can go with MechWarrior moments. I have my gripes about ECM the game, mostly because I feel very passionate about it and want to see it prosper in the future. I feel the development team has done some wonderful things so far and look forward to improvements. Moments like yours are what keeps me coming back.

Edited by StalaggtIKE, 08 January 2013 - 12:07 PM.

[FrupertApricot]

Of course you are having fun, you are using ECM.

[Zypher]

I don't think most people hate the game as a whole, people love it, but want it to do better so they complain about specific pieces that annoy them. Why else would the complainers keep coming back other than being gluttons for punishment?

The core of combat is a blast with good graphics to boot, but there are so many issues around the periphery of core combat that can sour ones experience quickly.

PGI has a good thing here, many are very passionate about this genre, but people are terrified a game they waited so long for will never see fruition and fall to the way side like so many other titles.

[RocketmanZero]

As an Atlas pilot, I approve your message.

I love the intimidation factor and presence assault mechs bring to the battlefield. That being said victory and defeat are something that is shared with my team which is what makes the game so enjoyable. Like you said its a lot of little things that come together to make up either a win or loss. The dynamic nature of the game and the strategy involved is very much a huge part of why I keep playing (and what makes TS so much fun), even in CB this was apparent.

Edited by RocketmanZero, 08 January 2013 - 11:57 AM.

[Shazarad]

I had one match in closed beta in my Commando 1B with two MPLs...

It was down to me and a Catapult and an Atlas...

Killed the catapult easily, as he carried only LRMs. The Atlas stayed at his base to prevent capture. I engaged the Atlas and took some fire. However, I hid directly under him, as in, my entire viewscreen is his legs and that's it.

It took me forever and a bit of fancy footwork, but I managed to take out both legs and win the match for my team. He couldn't look down far enough to hit me and I laughed for hours after I got done with that match. My teammates cheered me on and were laughing just as much as I picked the poor Atlas apart.

Absolutely incredible experience that you can't find anywhere else. I love this game!

[superteds]

you drop with a floater tehehehe

[Goose Igaly]

The quote feature isn't working for me right now, not sure why. So, I'll reply to [color="#b27204"]FrupertApricot[/color]:

I have fun with or without the ECM. Your tone indicates you believe I would be weaker or enjoy the game less without the ECM. I'll have to politely disagree. ECM adds another factor to the game and allows my group to move around the field with a smaller chance of being detected, but it is by no means a save-all. I understand that people will scoff at my "smaller chance of being detected," but pilots who rely on their own eyes as much as their sensors will see a mech moving around the field even if their sensors can't.

Also, ECM is countered easily enough, and I don't mean ECM in counter mode. Grab a TAG and point it at the ECM toting mech. If ECM is disrupting your gameplay that dramatically (and I know it can), the biggest threat in a pack of enemy mechs is not the Atlas (unless he's a DDC toting the ECM) but the light mech cloaking the group. Burn him down so your range can get in the action.

Regardless of what others have said, I have only ever seen 2 ECMs on a single team in any drop. Not saying it can't happen, but I take the threads stating entire team ECM with a salt tablet. If you find that ECMs are messing up your build, change it up, some. SSRMs get blocked, so move to SRM4s (SRM6s), LRMs get blocked, so get your teammates to equip a TAG and help you get a lock.

ECM is certainly a formidible (sp) device, but it far from the game winner others make it out to be. Many a game has been one without it; gameplay, strategy, enjoyment. If you don't like going solo, find some friends. Can't find friends? The problem may not lie with them.

[Wanzerm23]

I had a similar thing happen to me. I was playing in a 4 man group and the match was getting to the end. It was down to me in my 'Phract 1X brawler and one of my group in a Dragon (can't remember the variant) vs. A raven, jenner, and catapult. I tangled with the Cat and dropped him while my team mate dropped the raven, only to be finished off by the jenner.

Thankfully, my 'phract has quite a bit of armour and I was able to take out the jenner and win. I was shaking a little bit by the end of that match, but man it felt good.

[RedMercury]

So, you pugstomped a bunch of newbies in your premade. Your pug teammates even softened them up for you so you could finish them off. You had a good time and your ego got a boost. So you came here to gloat about it. And this is supposed to fix the deep problems that the majority of the playerbase has with the game, HOW?

Edited by RedMercury, 08 January 2013 - 03:05 PM.

[Solis Obscuri]

Goose Igaly, on 08 January 2013 - 10:20 AM, said:

I typically drop with 3 other buds of mine

Cue Lone Wolf/PUG rage in 5...4...3..

RedMercury, on 08 January 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

So, you pugstomped a bunch of newbies in your premade. Your pug teammates even softened them up for you so you could finish them off. You had a good time and your ego got a boost. So you came here to gloat about it. And this is supposed to fix the deep problems that the majority of the playerbase has with the game, HOW?

Oh nvm, already here...

[Castigatus]

RedMercury, on 08 January 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

So, you pugstomped a bunch of newbies in your premade. Your pug teammates even softened them up for you so you could finish them off. You had a good time and your ego got a boost. So you came here to gloat about it. And this is supposed to fix the deep problems that the majority of the playerbase has with the game, HOW?

Bolded the part where you talk total ****. How in any way does what the OP wrote read like he was gloating about anything. He had a very evenly matched game which he enjoyed immensely and decided to say so, what exactly is wrong with that? I could have said the same thing about a match I had yesterday, ended up cheering our last guy on as he took out a catapult, a cataphract and a raven in his Commando and won us the round.

Anyway last time I checked this was general discussion not RedMercurys personal bitching forum, so can your ego and maybe you wont come off as such an insufferable jerk next time.

[Blackavar]

RedMercury, on 08 January 2013 - 03:03 PM, said:

So, you pugstomped a bunch of newbies in your premade. Your pug teammates even softened them up for you so you could finish them off. You had a good time and your ego got a boost. So you came here to gloat about it. And this is supposed to fix the deep problems that the majority of the playerbase has with the game, HOW?

You're clearly very dissatisfied and would have had a go at the OP whatever positive statements he made. Obviously you've got - quite possibly valid - issues with PGI and their development of this game, but you don't have to take it out on this guy. He had a good match that made his heart race and he wanted to express his enjoyment of it. He wasn't saying "I can play this fine, screw anyone who has problems."

To the OP, glad you had a good match there, sounds like a good one. Had a few like that myself.