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[Werewolf486 ScorpS]

So yesterday I was in battle with my Cheesapult on Caustic when I became the last man standing against a Stalker. I alpha'd repeatedly until the Stalker was left with no weapons.After I stripped off what was left I realized I was out of ammo. So there we were a walking stick Stalker and a Cheesapult with no ammo.

The Stalker headed to our cap, which we were right next to, so I followed him after having my team YELLING in my ear. Once we arrived I commenced to flogging him with my Cheesapult to no avail and it ended in a tie....

Amused, at first. Frustrated, next. Bored at the end.

[Noth]

Werewolf486, on 07 January 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

So yesterday I was in battle with my Cheesapult on Caustic when I became the last man standing against a Stalker. I alpha'd repeatedly until the Stalker was left with no weapons.After I stripped off what was left I realized I was out of ammo. So there we were a walking stick Stalker and a Cheesapult with no ammo.

The Stalker headed to our cap, which we were right next to, so I followed him after having my team YELLING in my ear. Once we arrived I commenced to flogging him with my Cheesapult to no avail and it ended in a tie....

Amused, at first. Frustrated, next. Bored at the end.

moral of this story is that you should always have some sort of back up weapon. Issue is easily handled by not making teh cheese build.

[Lykaon]

Noth, on 07 January 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

moral of this story is that you should always have some sort of back up weapon. Issue is easily handled by not making teh cheese build.

Yep if you want the 90 alpha you sacrifice secondary weapons.

Could try 5 SRM6s and 1 SRM2 on a seperate weapon group to compensate if it's that big of an issue.

[Gulinborsti]

That's the main reason why I don't like the CPLT-A1, and really love the C4. Those 2 medium lasers in the CT will stay with you until the end ...

[Kaijin]

Noth, on 07 January 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

moral of this story is that you should always have some sort of back up weapon. Issue is easily handled by not making teh cheese build.

Moral of this story is there is a risk in taking an entirely ammunition dependent mech.

[Noodlesoup]

this is a strong arguement for inclusion of melee attacks and physical weapons in the game.. although in this case two armless ovopod mechs butting heads in a vain attempt to brain-bash each other to death is amusing for me to imagine.

i guess you could have kicked each other to death in TT at least..

[skullman86]

Noth, on 07 January 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

moral of this story is that you should always have some sort of back up weapon. Issue is easily handled by not making teh cheese build.

Still not a guarantee though. Some mechs don't have indestructible hardpoints and can lose entire loadouts, no matter what they are carrying.

Edited by skullman86, 07 January 2013 - 04:04 PM.

[Valkyrie Brynhildr]

I enjoy ammo dependant Mechs like my Ilya and Cataphract X4 but I still make sure to have some laser weapons on it.

[TruePoindexter]

FYI you can kill by ramming.

Fast forward to 5:25 to see it

Edited by TruePoindexter, 07 January 2013 - 04:53 PM.

[Dirkdaring]

Thats happened to me 3 times now in my Gaussapult. It's why I shred half a ton armor to put in a small laser.

Edited by Dirkdaring, 07 January 2013 - 04:23 PM.

[ElmoWithAGun]

TruePoindexter, on 07 January 2013 - 04:22 PM, said:

FYI you can kill be ramming.

Fast forward to 5:25 to see it

Does this even work anymore with collisions removed?

[TruePoindexter]

ElmoWithAGun, on 07 January 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

Does this even work anymore with collisions removed?

Yes - you still deal damage just there's no change of knockdown. It's actually more dangerous now as there's a possibility of the collision getting stuck and repeating itself continually dealing damage.

[StraferX]

I love my Balistic builds as they shred mechs apart like tin cans however if one on one battles I generaly will run out of ammo after killing 3. I am torn between 2 lovers as i am trying out all lazer boats once again, with some heat management, focus fire i am still getting those 3 kills and have yet to run out of ammo.


Another Great reason I want a Hatchet for my Wang.

Edited by StraferX, 07 January 2013 - 04:33 PM.

[BerryChunks]

Lykaon, on 07 January 2013 - 03:25 PM, said:

Yep if you want the 90 alpha you sacrifice secondary weapons.

Could try 5 SRM6s and 1 SRM2 on a seperate weapon group to compensate if it's that big of an issue.

that's still ammo dependent, scrub.

you need a small laser.

[vettie]

was in that match. One of the last ones to go down. I was fighting the stalker and stripped him when another mech got me.
I am guessing the Catapult got the other then started on the stalker. We watched for some 4 to 6 minutes as tthey tried ramming one another.

All that managed to accomplish was the catapult went critical CT (nose rammed the stalker). Of course, being on this side, no way of knowing if the stalker also went critical but you could see the damage zones blink when there was a collision.

I know collision works for same team, because I have bumped a team mate and killed him. we were on comms together so I sure got my earful not to mention the team kill penalty. No knockdown, just some damage. in my case enough, in the case of the OP, not enough.

I like having a secondary weapon as well...

[Werewolf486 ScorpS]

The Cheesapult is an absolute easy button in pairs or packs, and I normally don't run all ammo based weapons. This is just one of 9 mechs I have in my lab.

[Ngamok]

Werewolf486, on 07 January 2013 - 03:14 PM, said:

So yesterday I was in battle with my Cheesapult on Caustic when I became the last man standing against a Stalker. I alpha'd repeatedly until the Stalker was left with no weapons.After I stripped off what was left I realized I was out of ammo. So there we were a walking stick Stalker and a Cheesapult with no ammo.

The Stalker headed to our cap, which we were right next to, so I followed him after having my team YELLING in my ear. Once we arrived I commenced to flogging him with my Cheesapult to no avail and it ended in a tie....

Amused, at first. Frustrated, next. Bored at the end.

My Cheesepult has 2 ML. I would have won.

[HC Harlequin]

Noodlesoup, on 07 January 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

i guess you could have kicked each other to death in TT at least..

Even though I liked this, you can still ram someone to death in the current system. It just takes a while.

[Draxos Synge]

TruePoindexter, on 07 January 2013 - 04:29 PM, said:

Yes - you still deal damage just there's no change of knockdown. It's actually more dangerous now as there's a possibility of the collision getting stuck and repeating itself continually dealing damage.

So thats what happened to me and an atlas yesterday. I was in my Dragon and we got jammed up, next thing I know we were both bright red centers and no arms left. I thought it was from friendly fire lol.

[Kraven Kor]

Gulinborsti, on 07 January 2013 - 03:30 PM, said:

That's the main reason why I don't like the CPLT-A1, and really love the C4. Those 2 medium lasers in the CT will stay with you until the end ...

My Cataphract that has the CT Energy Hardpoints usually loses the Medium Lasers before I even lose the arms lol. Would think the Catapult, with the similar "Here is my CT, please shoot it" profile, would have the same problem