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[Versak]

So has anyone else noticed Revo tells people they need to play and practice more, and he's posting past midnight and then also early in the morning on weekdays?

[Runenstahl]

I can only agree with the majority of players that the current ECM/LRM rules suck ahm... have room for improvement

BOTH are too powerful and it does not help that they cancel each other out. If ECM would be possible on every mech, 90+ % of the players would use it because it's a must have against LRM's. Without ECM LRM's are currently too powerful. So the solution is quite simple: just by making LRM's less damaging or (better yet !) less selfguiding there would be less need to run ECM's,

And talking about valid choices: if your mech is ECM capable, what would you rather install ? An AMS or an ECM System ? So yeah, I think somethink HAS to be reworked here to make things more interesting.

Right now the game sucks isn't too much fun if you play a slow mech without ECM (your getting shredded by LRM'S). And it also sucks isn't too much fun if you play a missile dependend mech and run into someone with ECM.

So please nerf them both.

[Revo13]

Just to prove a point, last night I played with my LRM boat (Catapult FTW) that was modified from a SRM boat (I have XL engines laying all over the place).


We won 4/5 matches, plenty of damage and kills with the LRM boat:





ECM IS NOT OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sincerely,
Your Noob

[Sandslice]

That screenshot only shows that you were actually able to downfield LRMs and break lots of components (which a tunnel-storm of LRMs will tend to do.) It doesn't say how much ECM support you (or the opponents) had, or what their obvious DC'd player was carrying for that matter.

It also does not say how often you were able to use those LRMs with the help of Streak heroes, who get the added benefit of triggering a Betty missile warning with Streaks so that a target doesn't know what sort of missiles are incoming.

Therefore, it is not evidence of anything related to ECM.

[Volthorne]

Revo13, on 15 January 2013 - 01:03 PM, said:

Just to prove a point, last night I played with my LRM boat (Catapult FTW) that was modified from a SRM boat (I have XL engines laying all over the place).


We won 4/5 matches, plenty of damage and kills with the LRM boat:





ECM IS NOT OP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Sincerely,
Your Noob

Yeah, I can submit an un-dated screenshot that also doesn't show my load out too. I won't, though, because I'd look like an asshat troll trying to undermine my own argument. Set up more strawmen please.

[TehCable]

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[Tirael]

Asmudius Heng, on 13 January 2013 - 03:58 PM, said:

If i was not grinding various variants I would be running ECM a lot more.

It was not fun ginding those other ravens at all but i did it so my ECM variant would be more powerful.

The developers have a way that makes people not take the ECM mechs - but this does not mean it is good or fun.

As for 8 vs 8 taking HALF THIER TEAM of ECM ... yes obviously thats balanced /sarcasm

As the days go by the newbies will find ECM and realise it is what to take, the others will have ground out their variants and will go back to their mainstay ECM mech.

If ECM was balanced there should be plenty of games that had NO ECM beccause it is not an ESSENTIAL item and no one would feel cheated because they were missing ECM.

I do not care if no one takes BAP - but i do care when we do not have some ECM. Maths be damned this is common sense.

A-yup. Guess why i'm finally coming back to MWO, even though my comp runs the game on lowest settings at a grand total of 17-20fps? ECM makes sure that i can hold my own, and makes sure that i can disrupt the targeting of light mechs which i would otherwise find impossible to kill because my 3-year-old office laptop's Nvidia Geforce 310M cannot render the graphics fast enough to allow me to engage in a meaningful battle with them--my frames drop down to 7--to say nothing of the epic lag situation that otherwise occurs. And before you ask, no, I'm a college student; i physically do not have enough money to get a better machine.

[Revo13]

Sandslice, on 15 January 2013 - 01:13 PM, said:

That screenshot only shows that you were actually able to downfield LRMs and break lots of components (which a tunnel-storm of LRMs will tend to do.) It doesn't say how much ECM support you (or the opponents) had, or what their obvious DC'd player was carrying for that matter.

It also does not say how often you were able to use those LRMs with the help of Streak heroes, who get the added benefit of triggering a Betty missile warning with Streaks so that a target doesn't know what sort of missiles are incoming.

Therefore, it is not evidence of anything related to ECM.

You simply cannot accept defeat. Your game skill is weak and instead of working harder you want the DEVS to WASTE time making the game EASIER so YOU (because you are just so SPECIAL) will actually have a chance. No, no, no.

PGI, make the game more difficult! I'm enjoying the CHALLENGE!

Volthorne, on 15 January 2013 - 01:15 PM, said:

Yeah, I can submit an un-dated screenshot that also doesn't show my load out too. I won't, though, because I'd look like an asshat troll trying to undermine my own argument. Set up more strawmen please.

Haha, I'm not giving out my builds so a bunch of noobs can copy me. You will have to work as hard as I did to figure it out. One cannot be a Super-Noob without making an honest effort.


Make the game MORE difficult instead of LESS difficult, this will lend to weeding out all of the low-skilled players and leave room on the server and forum for the truly dedicated players.

Sincerely,
Your Noob