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[Hiii Power]

Which loadout is the best?

1 PPC
1 LB-10X AC

or

1 LB-10x AC
3 Medium Pulse Laser

or

1 Gauss Rifle
2 Medium Pulse Laser

[TruePoindexter]

I wouldn't say it's the best but I would personally take the 1 Gauss 2 MPL over the others. For my 4G I alternate between 1 Gauss 3 ML or 2 AC5 3 ML though I haven't ran it in a very long time.

[Hiii Power]

does it pay off to buy a better engine ?

[TruePoindexter]

Hiii Power, on 09 January 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

does it pay off to buy a better engine ?

Yes - with current game play speed is important and the stock 64kph speeds of the Hunchback are not great.

EDIT:

Here are my modern takes on what I would run for the 4G:

2 AC5 3 ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...e762c2f702a5585

1 GAUSS 3 ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a7580ea3633b3f8

Edited by TruePoindexter, 09 January 2013 - 11:09 AM.

[Stingz]

TruePoindexter, on 09 January 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

Yes - with current game play speed is important and the stock 64kph speeds of the Hunchback are not great.

I second this, 64 k/ph is more reasonable for a Heavy or Assault mech. Ballistics are heavy, and usually result in a slower mech due to tonnage.

Though it is fun being a walking AC/20, it isn't very reliable.

Edited by Stingz, 09 January 2013 - 01:29 PM.

[Mycrus]

3 ac2
3 med laser
Xl260

Only good pilots need apply

[slayerkdm]

The 4G is by far my most played mech. I have tried everything under the sun I think.

Of the three, I prefer the second, and that is because of the pulse lasers. One and three are very vunerable up close in my opinion. The 3 MPL's give you respectable brawling damage. That being said, the LBX10 weighs too much and you will either be slow run an XL. Either way, its a tough go. Play style comes into this more than anything, but I think heavy ballistics are very tough on a hunch, you have to give up too much. Even though I play my 4G 90% of the time, when I crack out my Ilya, I kind of want to cry. It does everything better to be honest.

The last two weeks I have tried all builds again on the G. Once again I have settled on 3MG/3MPL. It gets laughed at, but the MPLS do most of the work, and there is just no ballistic that you can ***, that doesnt hurt more than help. I wanted so much for the Ultra5 to be the answer. Its awesome on the Ilya, not so great on the Hunch.

For grins if you like to circle fight and keep weapons constantly trained on another mech, try the 3MG/MPL build.

[joedawg39s]

I found the lbx wasn't a great primary weapon, it only reaches its full potential against already damaged mechs. The 2 ac5 or gauss that Truepoindexter suggested are good bets. Its also not a bad mech to mount a TAG in that upper energy hardpoint.

[dabsch]

TruePoindexter, on 09 January 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

1 GAUSS 3 ML
http://mwo.smurfy-ne...a7580ea3633b3f8

Cant replicate this Build. What am I doing wrong? Your suggested engine weights too much.

[malibu43]

I have a 4H, which is similar to the 4G, but has 2 additional energy hardpoints in the torso instead of 2 additional ballistics hardpoints.

I have been running the following VERY effectively:

STD 200 eng (I just unlocked speed tweak which should help with the small engine)
ES and DHS
2 x MLAS (arms)
2 x MPLAS (1 head and 1 right torso)
AC20 w/ 2 tons ammo
Rest of the tonnage filled out with DHS

I am having the most fun I've had yet in MWO with this build. Lots of kills and usually 400-500 damage as long as I don't run out in front and let myself become and easy target. The AC20 is just downright bada$$.

I would imagine you could replicate this build pretty well on the 4G. You'd have one less laser, but could probably go MPLAS on the arms and MLAS on the head.

[TruePoindexter]

dabsch, on 11 January 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Cant replicate this Build. What am I doing wrong? Your suggested engine weights too much.

Double check the armor values - FF armor doesn't round as nicely as normal armor so you may be off by a single point somewhere.

EDIT: I'll try to validate it in game tonight because it might also be a bug in the mechlab rounding the weight of the armor incorrectly.

Edited by TruePoindexter, 11 January 2013 - 09:56 AM.

[Irvine]

http://mwo.smurfy-ne...3e8978d49c83146

Dakka Hunchie, it might have heat problems so the MLs might me altered to SL or just fewer in #.

[Damiler]

HBK 4G Its on of my favourite mechs, I got it with AC/20, 2 ML and TAG for helping Walking LRMs Monsters, also Gauss and 2ML and 1 LL, with the standard engine, also use speed tweak.

[dabsch]

How do I kill things with this spec? Using the Gauss Rifle... im hitting bunch of times.. even from behind... still no lethal damage. What am I doing wrong? Not even Light Mechs seem to suffer from direct hits with the Gauss..

[joedawg39s]

It could be the lag, especially on the lights. It may look like a hit on your end but it dosent register on the server unless your targeting reticle turns red. Also you dont have a super high alpha skrike but have managable heat so just keep firing and try to keep all your shots to the same location on the enemy.

[TruePoindexter]

dabsch, on 11 January 2013 - 12:41 PM, said:

How do I kill things with this spec? Using the Gauss Rifle... im hitting bunch of times.. even from behind... still no lethal damage. What am I doing wrong? Not even Light Mechs seem to suffer from direct hits with the Gauss..

You have to keep landing your shots on the same location on the enemy. You're a mobile DPS fighter - you don't have very high burst damage.

[dabsch]

Those light mechs are super annoying... well, gotta try to focus my fire on one part of the enemy mech then.

[joedawg39s]

Also don't worry about getting kills, just focus on working with your team mates, kills will come and you will win more.

[dabsch]

Is there any more beginner friendly mech? Im just gettin wrecked... and get barely income due to repair costs and insignificant damage done... :-/

[TruePoindexter]

dabsch, on 11 January 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

Is there any more beginner friendly mech? Im just gettin wrecked... and get barely income due to repair costs and insignificant damage done... :-/

There's no more repair

The 4SP is probably a better mech for players new to the Hunchback. You have to stick with the group and under cover - Hunchbacks do not soak fire very well.