Jump to content

Freedom of Speech: Price Never Too High


27 replies to this topic

#21 Redburn

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 119 posts
  • LocationRobinson

Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:17 AM

View PostPeiper, on 24 May 2012 - 11:29 PM, said:


Alexander,
How would you know how General Kerensky died? You speak as if you have authority to knowing more than the author, Olivia of the Commonwealth Press, knows about your namesake. Olivia and I have given our opinion, and our opinions are based upon facts or general observations. You, however, seem to have either fabricated your own reality entirely, or are privy to information that not even this latest biographer knows of. If you know how Kerensky died, then you must know WHERE and WHEN he did so. You must also know the fates of those he was with - at least up to that point in history. If you're going to give an opinion, I would challenge you to cite your sources. Otherwise you are no more than a rumor-monger, and that is an abuse of this very 'Freedom of Speech' which the author Olivia uses as an excuse to write her debasement of a person she, nor I, nor you could have possibly known. I may not agree with her, or you, but we do not allude to a fabricated reality to back our positions.
Either move on to writing fiction, or prove your claims. Or perhaps you are devaluing your own 'namesake' to defend the image of one who wishes he was a greater man? If so, I challenge your puppeteer to reveal him or herself. Madness....


I see nothing in the quoted text to indicate that the Great Lord has died. However, no one in human history has lived more than a few years beyond 100, and given the amount time that has past since his departure and his age at that time, it is inevitable that he too would be gone by now. When, where and how are irrelevant. At no time in the 300 years since has any news reached us that he and his minions still live. They are lost to time.

#22 Mr G

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • Elite Founder
  • Elite Founder
  • 129 posts

Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:28 AM

You can't blame a guy for bugging out when things get to hot. We all have our breaking point and Kerensky found his that fateful day. You can argue about responsibility, intentions or possibilities until you are blue in the face. However the facts are that when he saw his great society crumble around his feet he fled. That's the real Kerensky right there. A man so broken, frustrated and hopeless that he led millions out into the deep black without any real heading, plan or even enough supplies to create and sustain a lasting population. If he brought as many people as the histories claim there is no way he could have supported them for more than a few years even on extremely low ration allowances. Unless they got real lucky and stumbled upon a few terraformed planets capable of sustaining them they all probably died withered, desperate and hopeless a long time ago.

The star league wasn't the first attempt at creating a better society and method of governance and it won't be the last. We'll try again and when we do it'll be great for a little while and then come crashing down as it always does.

#23 Barantor

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Elite Founder
  • Elite Founder
  • 2,592 posts
  • LocationLexington, KY USA

Posted 25 May 2012 - 04:53 AM

Well written and really lets us get into the head of someone who has a fairly strong opinion on the subject.

#24 KingCobra

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • FP Veteran - Beta 1
  • FP Veteran - Beta 1
  • 2,726 posts
  • LocationUSA

Posted 25 May 2012 - 06:03 AM

Time to be Scared Inner Sphere Scum the Clans are coming.

#25 Randalf Yorgen

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,026 posts
  • Locationwith in 3m of the exposed Arcons rear ct

Posted 25 May 2012 - 07:59 AM

If you had shown yourself to be of a true Warriors blood I would have congratulated you but you have not, you have failed in a most miserable and pathetic way. If you had shown your worth and remained true and pure I would have heralded your insite and your response, but you failed. You speak of Greatness yet you fail to strive for it within yourself and more, you project it unto others with your disgusting words. You, and I will say your name but this once, PEIPER, are not worthy of concideration to enter the trials. You did show potential and were thought of as a Ristar, and for that you shall be directed to a seperate Caste, perhaps the Scientists could use an assistant or better the Labor Caste could use a worker ant but you shall NEVER be a Warrior. Your use of a CONTRACTION is Chalcas and makes you no better than a Surat, a Stravag, and a waste. You are cast OUT of your Sibco, return and gather what little you have that matters to you and report to your new Caste, you are finished here.




It has been a while since I went all Clan like (17 years-ish), had to stop and think about it. I believe I got it right.

Cheers

#26 Peiper

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Dragoon
  • The Dragoon
  • 1,444 posts
  • Google+: Link
  • LocationA fog where no one notices the contrast of white on white

Posted 25 May 2012 - 09:24 AM

Randalf,

What strange blather you speak.

From what you have written, it sounds like you are attempting to insult and goad me into conflict with you, yet I know nothing of who you are. I never claimed to be anything, yet you speak is if you have some sort of authority over me. I have never heard of you. For the exercise of it, I will look at your words and dissect what you say. I am a Mechwarrior, not a school teacher. My use of a contraction seems to have sent you into a frenzy. In fact, this is the only issue which you directly challenge me upon, as you have not noted a single statement I have made as being inaccurate.

I will do my best to adapt myself into the role of a school teacher for you.


View PostRandalf Yorgen, on 25 May 2012 - 07:59 AM, said:

If you had shown yourself to be of a true Warriors blood I would have congratulated you but you have not, you have failed in a most miserable and pathetic way.

These two sentences should not be one. Your use of punctuation is incorrect.

If you had shown your worth and remained true and pure I would have heralded your insite and your response, but you failed. You speak of Greatness yet you fail to strive for it within yourself and more, you project it unto others with your disgusting words.

Exactly how is it that a person can be true and pure when you have not indicated how I am not. You know nothing of me except for my words defending General Kerensky. Under what authority, scholarly or otherwise, do you grade the level of 'greatness?' I fail to strive for it within myself 'and more,' means exactly what? If you'd ended that sentence with the word 'yourself' you would have made sense. 'And more' should be removed and replaced with 'Additionally' as starting a new sentence with 'and' is poor use of the language. Perhaps you do not speak English as your native tongue? If I were to read that sentence literally, I would read it as your claiming that I have failed to strive to greatness, and I project my failure upon others. To that, I would argue that my arguments have been in defense of General Kerensky's greatness, and not my own. Perhaps you are projecting your inadequacies upon me in hopes of deflecting your shame in yourself?

You, and I will say your name but this once, PEIPER, are not worthy of concideration to enter the trials.

Why preface that you will say something once? That points out an inefficiency in your words. Why not just say, "Peiper, you are...." Also, these trials you speak of: are you suggesting that you have the right to put me upon trial? Lastly, consideration is spelled incorrectly.

You did show potential and were thought of as a Ristar, and for that you shall be directed to a seperate Caste, perhaps the Scientists could use an assistant or better the Labor Caste could use a worker ant but you shall NEVER be a Warrior.

By who was I thought of as a so called 'Ristar' and why does my being one give you authority to send me to another caste. Also, this sentence displays another example of poor punctuation. This sentence should be three sentences as it is three complete thoughts.

Your use of a CONTRACTION is Chalcas and makes you no better than a Surat, a Stravag, and a waste. You are cast OUT of your Sibco, return and gather what little you have that matters to you and report to your new Caste, you are finished here.

I suspect if chalcas, surat, sibco, and stravag were really words, they would not be capitalized. Again, the final sentence of your baseless criticisms should be divided into three sentences, as they are three complete and separate thoughts.

_______________________________

Now, if I felt you were worthy, I would refute your judgement and challenge you to back up your insults with some sort of 'trial,' as you have alluded to. However, if you first attempted to put me down for my use of grammar, having an even poorer grasp of it's use than I do, you are obviously an imbecile and to waste my time. It would be unfair of me to fight a person who rants, raves, and judges another without the reasoning or evidence to back it up. You defeat yourself by first putting pen to the paper. As an illustration of striving to be a better man, and a forgiving person, I have responded to your challenge in hopes of being an example of what I speak of in my defense of General Kerensky. Violence should be used as a last resort in the pursuit of freedom, and if you knew who you were attempting to put down or insult, you would not say those words. I would only ask that you never cross my path with any sort of violent intent, as your existence will be ended, and to kill you would be a stain upon my honor, for it is my job as a warrior to protect YOUR freedoms as well as my own. Should you use your freedoms to debase yourself is up to you. If you have some sort of self-awareness, I suggest you spend some time in deep thought before you choose to cast others down, lest someone who is not aware of your intellectual handicaps respond in a less forgiving way.

I extend to you a Rede of Forgiveness. Do not put me in a position to do so again.

End of reply.

___________________________________


It has been a while since I went all Clan like (17 years-ish), had to stop and think about it. I believe I got it right.

Cheers


Hi Randalf,
I even checked for contradictions in both my writings! lol. Good catch. I am also roleplaying as if I am a Clanner stranded in the inner-sphere. I do my best to avoid using clan-only words and expressions, though if I slip up (-seyla), it is usually intentional, as a person who grew up one way when placed in a completely different society, will have trouble adjusting. What one once took for granted in one culture is not necessarily similar in another. My bothering to defend myself against you shows an inability to stand down from a challenge, even if, as I have so verbosely proven, I should of. (Gotta love the juxtaposition!)

The only word that you used that didn't fit was Chalcas, which is generally seen as a challenge to the clan caste system. (Wolf Clan sourcebook, p. 124) The use of contradictions can be seen as rude and/or sloppy speech from one clanner to another, but calling out someone one slip up sounds a little over the top. Typically, in the fluff, the reaction is a 'cringe.'

And Randalf, I'm just playing roleplaying out my character to the hilt. I do have a poor habit of typing walls of text, but I have nothing against you or anyone else, and I know you're having fun with me too. I notice Alexander Johannisburg deleted something he'd typed, and though I didn't see what he typed, I fear that he or someone else might take what I say personally, and that is not my intent. Those who know the player behind the character Peiper know I'm about as laid back as they get!

Peace out, yo!

Edited by Peiper, 25 May 2012 - 09:25 AM.


#27 Mechpriest

    Member

  • PipPipPip
  • 61 posts

Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:14 PM

And like today, in the Western Civilization's, freedom of speech is the most important thing we have.

#28 Peiper

    Member

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • The Dragoon
  • The Dragoon
  • 1,444 posts
  • Google+: Link
  • LocationA fog where no one notices the contrast of white on white

Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:47 PM

More insane ramblings, I see.

I should have stayed in Huntress....





4 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 4 guests, 0 anonymous users