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#81 Vassago Rain

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:30 AM

View PostM4rtyr, on 14 January 2013 - 04:28 AM, said:



Ahh yes, the "I can't aim so I'll use streaks" type eh. Hope they don't get ECM then. lol


They won't be getting ECM, and if they do, I can just go back in my atlas and shoot you dead with normal guns.

I got the ravens raised and ground out for the spiderfest 2013. It's just a silly, little thing to waste excess money.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:30 AM

View PostTaizan, on 14 January 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

For every player that plays a Spider (and ofc Jenner), there is one less 3ML / 2D. The more variety in lights, the better.


For every player that plays a spider and drops as pug so I get them on my team, there will be some ECM ****** on the premade team. Will be even better than usual.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:31 AM

I envision my spider getting on top of high building with my 8JJ and using my ERPPC. then jumping down and dance around with my 2ML.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:32 AM

View PostVassago Rain, on 14 January 2013 - 04:09 AM, said:

For every player that plays a spider, my spiderfest 2013 raven will earn a kill.

I guess for every chassis class there needs to be an upper and lower stop. For Assaults its the Awesome and the Atlas, for lights its the Spider and Raven. All is well :wub:

View PostIlwrath, on 14 January 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

For every player that plays a spider and drops as pug so I get them on my team, there will be some ECM ****** on the premade team. Will be even better than usual.

Same goes for the other team. Outside of the box thinking etc.

Edited by Taizan, 14 January 2013 - 04:33 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:33 AM

Sad part is we can't make physical attacks in MWO.. Spider charges hurt pretty good. :wub:

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:36 AM

View PostVassago Rain, on 14 January 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:


They won't be getting ECM, and if they do, I can just go back in my atlas and shoot you dead with normal guns.

I got the ravens raised and ground out for the spiderfest 2013. It's just a silly, little thing to waste excess money.


Vass its so funny I might buy a Streakmando just to enjoy half the fun.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:44 AM

the spider should have an a "rope ability" that can entangle mechs if you circle around it fast enough. (think Awing lasso AT-AT in starwars)

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:45 AM

View Postbantapoo, on 14 January 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

the spider should have an a "rope ability" that can entangle mechs if you circle around it fast enough. (think Awing lasso AT-AT in starwars)


And centurions should have shields that can be used to block damage or a mele- OH WAIT.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 04:53 AM

View PostBryan Kerensky, on 11 January 2013 - 10:43 PM, said:

Still the loadout seems less then what is offered by any of the other light mechs, even a commando. I feel that for it to be truly good, there would need to be some sort of tonnage system in place. Right now, 2 ML won't cut it.


I guess they will adjust the hardpoints. Only 2 energy hardpoints in the center torso would make this mech horrible.

More about Spider hardpoints here.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:03 AM

View PostOdanan, on 14 January 2013 - 04:53 AM, said:


I guess they will adjust the hardpoints. Only 2 energy hardpoints in the center torso would make this mech horrible.

More about Spider hardpoints here.


LOL.... ok I'm gonna be honest, I can't say exactly how good the Spider will handle itself in MWO, based on lagshield though it can't be that bad atm.

But I have to say. All these people that talk about how terrible a spider is have never been sitting on the other side of a table of someone that plays one, facepalming and saying "Why can't i kill that damnned thing!"

All the times I've used a Spider in TT or even MUSH's back in the day the only thing I was ever neverous of running into was a Jenner. Since you can change out engines though Ravens couldn't be a danager too, but I'm still placing my trust in the SPider vs the bug lumps in MWO, we'll just have to see.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 05:08 AM

The only way I can see the Spider being useful at the moment is if it has either incredible turning speed or massive torso twist angle/speed

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:13 AM

View PostRippthrough, on 14 January 2013 - 05:08 AM, said:

The only way I can see the Spider being useful at the moment is if it has either incredible turning speed or massive torso twist angle/speed


Whats that gonna do? you going to torso twist an enemy to death? The raven and commando are fast enough not to be a hindrance already.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:28 AM

View Postbantapoo, on 14 January 2013 - 04:44 AM, said:

the spider should have an a "rope ability" that can entangle mechs if you circle around it fast enough. (think Awing lasso AT-AT in starwars)


The funny thing is that is actually a thing in BT. There is a special grapple ammo for Narc....but spiders don't have missile hard points.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:46 AM

View PostVassago Rain, on 13 January 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:


It'll be the dragon of the light class. Something you don't want to see on your side.


Really? Not because you do not like the Dragon that it is useless. You may suck with it,(I do I just cannot play with it and do not like the hardpoints) but it doesn't mean that it is a bad mech. Trust me I know a few dragon pilots that are not here to mess around! :D

On the Spider though I agree. If they do not use magic on it and fix JJs to make it more viable, it will be useless.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:54 AM

View PostM4L4R3K, on 14 January 2013 - 06:46 AM, said:


Really? Not because you do not like the Dragon that it is useless. You may suck with it,(I do I just cannot play with it and do not like the hardpoints) but it doesn't mean that it is a bad mech. Trust me I know a few dragon pilots that are not here to mess around! :D

And I should probably be glad about this when they play on the other team, because they are good players and if they spend as much effort on mastering the Dragon, they'd stomp over me if they'd use a 5 or 10 ton heavier mech than the Dragon...

Edited by MustrumRidcully, 14 January 2013 - 06:55 AM.


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Posted 14 January 2013 - 06:55 AM

Yeah the Spider is going to suck.

Everyone is saying it has 2 med lasers or one med and 2 MGs, well look at this way.

2 energy hardpoints in the CT, or 1 energy and 2 ballistic. It is lighter than the Jenner, and Raven, it wont have ECM, it will be 5 tons more than a Commando, but will have half a ton less armor than the Jenner and one model of the Commando. So over all its not going to be a great fit for the current game.

And thats the problem it wont work in the current GAME!

The game has no function other than two different death match modes.

Unless PGI stops looking at the next Need For Speed, and start making real progress on MWO this game is going to die and it will be doubtful there will ever be another Battletech/Mechwarrior game.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 07:05 AM

View PostM4rtyr, on 14 January 2013 - 05:03 AM, said:


LOL.... ok I'm gonna be honest, I can't say exactly how good the Spider will handle itself in MWO, based on lagshield though it can't be that bad atm.

But I have to say. All these people that talk about how terrible a spider is have never been sitting on the other side of a table of someone that plays one, facepalming and saying "Why can't i kill that damnned thing!"

All the times I've used a Spider in TT or even MUSH's back in the day the only thing I was ever neverous of running into was a Jenner. Since you can change out engines though Ravens couldn't be a danager too, but I'm still placing my trust in the SPider vs the bug lumps in MWO, we'll just have to see.


What are you gonna do against them? Bump into them enough times their legs break?

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:12 AM

Play a Jenner-K, put 2 Medium Lasers in it, max engine, heat sinks (no FF, you won't have the slots, but you will have the tons), and 5 JJs, come back and tell me that its a good mech.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:29 AM

With ECM running wild and netcode broken, Ravens and Commandos will prey on the Spider like there is no tomorrow.

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Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:30 AM

Somebody has to provide target practice I guess?





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