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[Gen Kumon]

If it's not your first or second match, and you're still doing less than 50 damage in anything bigger than a light mech, you're just bad. It's not ECM, it's not evil premades. It's you. When an entire team does 30 damage each, that's not because you got rolled by some cheating premade scum simuldrop. Your entire team was just bad.

I usually run in 4-man TS pugs, because I got fed up by the lack of teamwork and frankly, skill among pugs...not to say ALL pugs are bad, but by far the worst players I've seen have been pugs. That said, I do occasionally pug just to remind myself of how bad it is. And it's gotten worse. Been in several matches tonight, in a row, where half or more of my team barely does any damage at all, despite lasting four or five minutes before dying. I honestly don't understand how this can even happen. One or two, I can kinda see. Maybe they're just bad. Maybe they got nailed in the head by a 6 PPC Stalker near the start of the match. It can happen, people have off matches. Entire teams of them, though? That's telling me that there's something deeply wrong with the playerbase.

Not really sure where I'm going with this. Maybe I just needed to let off some steam. But seriously...can anyone enlighten me on how such large groups of players can fail so badly?

Edited by Gen Kumon, 15 January 2013 - 05:24 PM.

[Mister Blastman]

[Ozric]

Tried a Spider yet?

[Sheraf]

Most of them are new players, maybe. What we need is a tutorial mode.

[HRR Insanity]

Net. Code.

They see themselves hitting. They're just not doing any damage.

If this is you...

Learn to lag shoot.

Edited by HRR Insanity, 15 January 2013 - 05:28 PM.

[Greyfyl]

When you are down 3 mechs before your stalker even gets into position, you are going to have to be very lucky to get 100 damage in.

If you can get one player that has wandered off from the pack - sure you can take him down. But it's only a matter of time before you are faced with 2 or 3 or 4 vs 1 - and there ain't thing one you can do about it.

[MoonUnitBeta]

[wolf74]

Sir I do have an " Excuse". My Commando does not have room for weapons. I ave 1point of damage in it.



COM-2D
Full armor
Endo-steel
180XL Engine
BAP, ECM, AMS, NARC, TAG
all ammo based items have 1 ton on ammo

[The Cheese]

wolf74, on 15 January 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

Sir I do have an " Excuse". My Commando does not have room for weapons. I ave 1point of damage in it.



COM-2D
Full armor
Endo-steel
180XL Engine
BAP, ECM, AMS, NARC, TAG
all ammo based items have 1 ton on ammo

Your build is bad and you should feel bad.

[Gen Kumon]

wolf74, on 15 January 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

Sir I do have an " Excuse". My Commando does not have room for weapons. I ave 1point of damage in it.



COM-2D
Full armor
Endo-steel
180XL Engine
BAP, ECM, AMS, NARC, TAG
all ammo based items have 1 ton on ammo

Problem: Using that while pugging...what happens when you don't have any dedicated LRM boats on your team? You become a millstone around your team's neck. They get you, the other team gets a dedicated combat light that can quickly take you out, and then harass your heavier units at will. Also, NARC? Really? Wow.

But yeah, that's not the issue, unless there's literally three or four mechs built like that on the same team. And these aren't disconnects I'm talking about. I'm talking about entire teams of active players that struggle to get two digits of damage in.

[Malora Sidewinder]

HRR Insanity, on 15 January 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

Net. Code.

They see themselves hitting. They're just not doing any damage.

If this is you...

Learn to lag shoot.

so... the entire enemy team would have to be ravens with ECM and 400+ ping in order to qualify as a justification for someone netting 25 damage done.

in my absolute WORST games where i die first, i net AT MINIMUM 300 damage

[Dudeman3k]

HRR Insanity, on 15 January 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

Net. Code.

They see themselves hitting. They're just not doing any damage.

If this is you...

Learn to lag shoot.

lol hahahaha, you expect the new players to compensate for the DEV's inability to fix the net coding.... in other words, your asking the new players to excuse the poor game design.... awesome, sounds like a great game for newcomers

[HRR Insanity]

Malora Sidewinder, on 15 January 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

so... the entire enemy team would have to be ravens with ECM and 400+ ping in order to qualify as a justification for someone netting 25 damage done.

in my absolute WORST games where i die first, i net AT MINIMUM 300 damage

Trust me. I've watched entire teams of PUGs flail away for 5-6 minutes never hitting... but absolutely convinced they are in chat.

[wolf74]

It took me about 20 game before I finely end up and the bottom of my team (most of the time I was 4th or 5th slot)

[verybad]

wolf74, on 15 January 2013 - 05:33 PM, said:

Sir I do have an " Excuse". My Commando does not have room for weapons. I ave 1point of damage in it.



COM-2D
Full armor
Endo-steel
180XL Engine
BAP, ECM, AMS, NARC, TAG
all ammo based items have 1 ton on ammo

Carrying NARC makes you a bad person.

I seriously hope that's a joke, especially since you already have TAG.

[Dudeman3k]

Malora Sidewinder, on 15 January 2013 - 05:36 PM, said:

so... the entire enemy team would have to be ravens with ECM and 400+ ping in order to qualify as a justification for someone netting 25 damage done.

in my absolute WORST games where i die first, i net AT MINIMUM 300 damage

it really shouldn't be what YOU can do.... if you played any other game where the hit boxes just weren't registering and ****'s jumping all over, wouldn't you start to question the playability of the game?? would you even bother trying to "learn" how to lag shoot??? seriously, people expect a functioning game.... learning to compensate for something that is game crippling shouldn't be the answer.

[Dagger6T6]

sorry i hadn't played for 2 weeks and i forgot what key changed the ECM mode... and i spent half the match trying to figure it out because no one would tell me in the chat.

sorry i offended your delicate sensibilities

[Greyfyl]

I forgot to say...good OP - now we all know how epically awesome you are.

+1

[Hellen Wheels]

Some people (including myself) do not measure enjoyment in terms of how much damage is done, or how many kills are achieved, or even if the team they're on wins. Believe it or not, it really doesn't matter to some people whether they win or lose--its how they play the game that provides enjoyment.
=H=

Edited by Hellen Wheels, 16 January 2013 - 11:49 AM.

[80sGlamRockSensation David Bowie]

Gen Kumon, on 15 January 2013 - 05:24 PM, said:

If it's not your first or second match, and you're still doing less than 50 damage in anything bigger than a light mech, you're just bad. It's not ECM, it's not evil premades. It's you. When an entire team does 30 damage each, that's not because you got rolled by some cheating premade scum simuldrop. Your entire team was just bad.

I usually run in 4-man TS pugs, because I got fed up by the lack of teamwork and frankly, skill among pugs...not to say ALL pugs are bad, but by far the worst players I've seen have been pugs. That said, I do occasionally pug just to remind myself of how bad it is. And it's gotten worse. Been in several matches tonight, in a row, where half or more of my team barely does any damage at all, despite lasting four or five minutes before dying. I honestly don't understand how this can even happen. One or two, I can kinda see. Maybe they're just bad. Maybe they got nailed in the head by a 6 PPC Stalker near the start of the match. It can happen, people have off matches. Entire teams of them, though? That's telling me that there's something deeply wrong with the playerbase.

Not really sure where I'm going with this. Maybe I just needed to let off some steam. But seriously...can anyone enlighten me on how such large groups of players can fail so badly?

Yeah but that's fine! We're getting ELO tod-

-What? Oh, we're not getting -- but I thought...

...Right, then sorry to interrupt you OP. Please proceed.