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[TheLastUn1corn]

Hi!

I somehow can't really understand, what ressources this game seems to need. I'm playing on my notebook with a core i5 processor, 6 gigabytes of RAM and a Radeon HD 5650 (1 G of GRAM), but even on medium details the game keeps lagging terribly. The only option seems to be playing on the minimum.

To me that's quite strange. Does the game really need a PC much better than mine to be playable with good graphics? Is that problem due to the beta-status or are the graphics nearly final?

Does any anyone experience similar problems?


TheLastUn1c0rn

[Antony Weiner]

TheLastUn1corn, on 18 January 2013 - 11:39 AM, said:

Hi!

I somehow can't really understand, what ressources this game seems to need. I'm playing on my notebook with a core i5 processor, 6 gigabytes of RAM and a Radeon HD 5650 (1 G of GRAM), but even on medium details the game keeps lagging terribly. The only option seems to be playing on the minimum.

To me that's quite strange. Does the game really need a PC much better than mine to be playable with good graphics? Is that problem due to the beta-status or are the graphics nearly final?

Does any anyone experience similar problems?


TheLastUn1c0rn

DX11 should fix the majority of fps issues.

I hope.

[Goose]

… What makes you think a 5650 was good even in it's day?

[Viper69]

Its not entirely optimized yet. Your PC is I would say average for the current gaming populace as mine is just a shy better on the GPU but a tad smaller in the CPU area. The game doesnt run multithreading currently either I think. I could be wrong though.

Goose, on 18 January 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:

… What makes you think a 5650 was good even in it's day?

It wasnt a terrible card, I have the 5870 and its struggling with this game and it was a damn good card when it came out.

[Goose]

Right: Note the extra - er, 220 in your's name; That makes a big difference.

[Shismar]

Radeon HD 5650 is three years old and was a midrange card back then. Not much you can expect from it. Add that notebooks usually have some additional bottlenecks, minimum settings it is. The game engine does of course support multiple cores. It rather has issues if you don't have enough of them ...

[Culler]

This thread should be renamed to "Awful performance on mediocre PC."

MWO in general gets poorer performance than other modern games. You've got a system that was solid a few years ago that probably can play modern games like Farcry 3 on medium settings without too much trouble. MWO taxes your system much more for much less, and so with a system like yours you'll probably need minimum graphics to play without having issues.

[Viper69]

Goose, on 18 January 2013 - 11:49 AM, said:

Right: Note the extra - er, 220 in your's name; That makes a big difference.

True, I hadnt known it was that much of a performance difference.

On a side note the new PCIE cards do they fit the older PCIE slots or does the igher speed of the newer slots have a different slot size? I was wondering because right now my PC is at the far end of its service life. Q6600,8gig Ram, HD5870 and a couple SSDs. Motherboard is a Gigabyte GA..oh god I cant remember.

[WarGruf]

Lol I was going to say the 5650 is way old now days
Still isn't a bad card mind but, doesn't utilise DX11 just 9 if I renember correctly, and at this point MWO hasn't got DX11 implemented so I'd recommend min settings for the time being.

Im running an ATI x3 tri core 3.4ghz, and single 7770, with 8gig of Corsair DDR3 for the time being and that sometimes struggles in the furballs. 35-45 fps standard.

Im gonna be doubling the specs pretty soon which should help a bit I hope

[Serapth]

I run this game on a laptop as well, i7, 16GB, 560M w/2GB and the performance has gone down the toilet. Up until two patches ago, my framerate never dipped below 30 at a resolution of 1920x1080 on highest settings. Then the patch with the graphics improvements in the patch notes saying "worse performance on some computers", well, that was me... 30-40fps down to about 15. Then this patch hit and it got even worse, 5-10FPS total now. So, in a month I went from being silky smooth to unplayable... lovely.


I have managed to get the game playing again, but in order to do so I had to drop down in resolution, turn all settings from highest to basically lowest, then go into the nvidia control panel and set to peformance over quality.


So, for some of us anyways, they've screwed something up royally. To boot, now my audio is fubar since Tuesdays patch. By next patch I will have to play the game at 800x600...

Edited by Serapth, 18 January 2013 - 12:03 PM.

[Whompity]

i5, 8GB RAM, TI 550 (I think), 2 old SATA1 HD's in stripe mode, WIn7-64. I run at 1680 x 1050 and it seems a smooth as silk. Sometimes if I stay in-game for a few hours I'll get a stutter. I exit, come back in, and it's fine.

Edited by Olivia Maybach, 18 January 2013 - 12:07 PM.

[Gregore]

I am not as up to date as I would like to be on vid cards.

Currently running with this one
EVGA 01G-P3-1371-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I play on very high and get 30-60 fps. But my gpu runs at 95-100% use and sits around 69-70 celsius.

Any recommendations in the 200-250 range?

Edited by Gregore, 18 January 2013 - 01:04 PM.

[Canis Arctos]

he wrote laptop guys... so that
5650 is a M model .. that card runs max at 650 ghz

this card is 3 years old... so... by far from good.

@gregore aslong you dont hit 85+ celsius all is good.. clean it once a month maybe.. for 200$ you will get a GeForce Gtx 480 and that card is almost 100% faster as yours and in the top 10 for single gpu cards atm. For 160 $ you will get a Radeon HD 7850 who be arround 70% faster as your card.

[F lan Ker]

S!

Sorry for threadjacking, but you AMD users might want to try out the 13.1 WHQL drivers or the leaked 13.2 Beta drivers on your cards. The 13.2's have a fix that smoothen the FPS, related to memory controller. The later revisions of 13.X will have a re-written memory controller code to get rid of this phenomenon. Just FYI..oh and sites like Rage3D and Guru3D have the links and info..

[Joe3142]

I was starting to get s*** FPS, and a re-install fixed the problem for me

[Canis Arctos]

F lan Ker, on 18 January 2013 - 01:28 PM, said:

S!

Sorry for threadjacking, but you AMD users might want to try out the 13.1 WHQL drivers or the leaked 13.2 Beta drivers on your cards. The 13.2's have a fix that smoothen the FPS, related to memory controller. The later revisions of 13.X will have a re-written memory controller code to get rid of this phenomenon. Just FYI..oh and sites like Rage3D and Guru3D have the links and info..

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHT dont tell them about new drivers...

i did buy today my 3rd HD 7870 for 65€... lol i love people who are thinking their card is broken when it is a well known driver problem.

[MQ9 Reaper Predator Drone]

guesing you dont have the money to buy a new laptop/card .
so heres a few free fixes.

1. use a program to simulate a beter gfx card using your rams memory.
3d analyze is a good program for this but im certain theres many many more which might be easier to use.

2. overclock your card if you havent done so already.
dont go to extremes, but just enough to keep the heat produced by your card under control
*if you dont know what you are doing, read some guides on the net,becuase chances are you will destroy your card by overheating your card.
that said, theres plenty of easy to use programs like MSI afterburner which makes it childs play.
However if you got a old pc you dont use i recomend testing it on that first.

3. like some said before me, DirectX 11. wil also help alot.

4. oh and like the person above me stated..
update your drivers
hope this helped you and your budget

Edited by MQ9 Reaper Predator Drone, 18 January 2013 - 02:17 PM.

[pcunite]

The current beta version of MWO needs an i5-3570K coupled with a GeForce GTX 660 TI to not be limited by your hardware. A non TI card will get you in 55 FPS (1920x1080) territory so you could comprise there. Overall, the game is not CPU optimized and that is the problem.

[Tarl Cabot]

Laptop users (and some desktop users). For others, when the video card has an M at the end of it, tis a mobility, aka laptop, card.

As for the title Good PC should be replaced with simply laptop/notebook.

1. Depending on the mobility CPU, if it has Turbo Boost the cpu is choking itself when it kicks in. In order to turbo boost to a higher CPU speed the extra power and increased speed is being applied to 2 or even one core. At the same time it also means that core is generating even more heat, at times enough to cause the laptop to throttle the CPU down low.

Workaround? Modify Power Options CPU optimization but set max to 98% or 97% instead of the suggested 99% in article.
Disabling Intel Turbo Boost - Tautvidas Sipavičius

2. Can of compressed air, clear out the heatsinks. Some laptops will have fan covers that can be removed to allow easier access to direct the air blast out the back through the heatsinks.

3. Likely bug with Shadows. If set to minimum Shadows is actually maxed out.

4. W7/W8 tends to get better FPS performance over XP with identical hardware (dual boot tested).

[Luke Garrad]

I has the same problems. The game is awfully unwell optimised. Real big shame. Try a user made CFG.