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[Lightfoot]

I don't understand why PPCs haven't been made to work in MWO after all this time.

I fire my Gauss Rifle (which should be very similar ot a PPC hit), or my AC20, or UAC5, and she-bang! It works. I fire my 5 Large Lasers and get a kill on the second salvo sometimes if they all hit for duration.

I fire my 4 torso mounted PPCs and nothing, looks like an LRM 10 hit. Why? Anyone know? Anyone at all?

In Battletech the PPC is one of the most dangerous Energy weapons. What happened to MWO PPCs?

[Lonestar1771]

Because obviously cash shop items are more important.

[Felix]

It is one of those things that their internal folk are supposedly testing, even though we are supposed to be the testers...

Lonestar1771, on 21 January 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

Because obviously cash shop items are more important.

that too

[Cole Allard]

Your around for long enough to know that your question will vanish into nothing from the devs side, exept a few people deffending this game you wont get much answers.

And yes, the "pip-gun" is an old BT Lore weapons that should be iconic...and working. But...well...

[Havyek]

Mine work fine. I shoot, if they hit they do damage, if they don't, they don't.

[Vassago Rain]

Lonestar1771, on 21 January 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

Because obviously cash shop items are more important.

What cash shop?

[Sam Slade]

The "how to make PPCs REALLY cool" debate has gone on for ages... look out for an impact on EWAR from PPC hits...

[Sprouticus]

I just started using mine, but they appear to be working very well. We are expecting a heat reduction soon, but that is a different issue.

What is your normal ping? It might be that PPC's are affected more by lag than Gauss for some reason, although I cant think why that would be the case.

[Adridos]

The problem is between PC and monitor.

I've got hit by PPC Stalkers a few times and I can assure you their damage works. Besidess, what's with the defending of TT PPC? This is an FPS shooter, not a tabletop game and they are only godlike there.

And try to ask you 3D artist at work to tweak the code. I'm sure he'll go ahead and change everything to your desired values in a minute or two. The guys who make shop items and guys who make changes to the code are two different groups.

Edited by Adridos, 21 January 2013 - 06:11 AM.

[Lonestar1771]

Vassago Rain, on 21 January 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

What cash shop?

That's just the universal term for "pay real money for stuff" it's not a physical or virtual "shop". Hero mechs, paint, cockpit stuff, and MC are all part of the "shop".

[N0ni]

PPCs work fine, then again i run a 6 PPC Stalker-3F.

[Tice Daurus]

BDU Havoc, on 21 January 2013 - 05:57 AM, said:

Mine work fine. I shoot, if they hit they do damage, if they don't, they don't.

Same here. OP is being an overtly dramatic OP.

I fire 'em, they shoot, they do damage.

Now, if this person had done the necessary searching, he would know that the DEV"s already know about this, they are planning to nerf the heat a bit for PPC's, plus put in EMP/electrostatic discharge disruption effects on them to frazzle HUD's and a possible buff to damage, but that last one is still being discussed.

[Pr8Dator]

My 5 PPC phract owns so I don' t know what you talking about OP.

Bear in mind also that there is a minimum range of 90m for PPCs so if you are firing up close, you are not going to get much effect.

Also, ever since the latest patch, I am getting HUGE delay firing my ERPPC... something like 1 to 5 seconds delay. No delay on my other ballistic or laser weapons.

Edited by Pr8Dator, 21 January 2013 - 06:22 AM.

[Cole Allard]

Dead Eye 01, on 21 January 2013 - 06:04 AM, said:

PPCs work fine, then again i run a 6 PPC Stalker-3F.

ahh...your the guy standing idle every 10 secs in a fight due to overheating...I thought I remembered that name from somewhere

C'mon...6 PPC's? Are you....compensating?

(or wait...nothing says "happy valentine" like a family of PPC's coming your way, forget the roses!)

[Ivanzypher]

PPCs work fine for me. Infact my Awesome 8Q is my favourite mech at the moment.

[Quxudica]

Vassago Rain, on 21 January 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

What cash shop?

Cockpit items, Paint, Decals (eventually), Hero Mechs. the last of those was also something they claimed they'd never do and yet got much greater priority.

[Redshift2k5]

As a pin-point damage weapon, they're very prone to missing when it 'seems' like they hit/should have hit. As we move towards better netcode, hit detection, and lag compensation, we should see PPCs landing on target more often.

Try some large lasers in the meantime; their duration-based damage is much less prone to failing to strike funky hitboxes.

Addendum: wonky weapon convergence when 'leading' targets.

Note that issues with hit detection and convergence can vary from player to player (whether they have different latency or different ability to compensate for poor convergence)

Edited by Redshift2k5, 21 January 2013 - 06:39 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

My PPC and(or) ERPPC both worked within acceptable levels on my Atlas. What is the problem you have had with PPCs?

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 21 January 2013 - 06:36 AM.

[Jack Corvus]

Lightfoot, on 21 January 2013 - 05:52 AM, said:

I fire my 4 torso mounted PPCs and nothing, looks like an LRM 10 hit. Why? Anyone know? Anyone at all?

In Battletech the PPC is one of the most dangerous Energy weapons. What happened to MWO PPCs?

Be aware that weapons will attempt to converge in such a manner as to strike whatever object/terrain is underneath your reticle at the moment you pull the trigger. When combined with the fact that you usually must lead your shots with the PPC (unless you are lucky enough to be shooting at something still or moving towards/away from you), you may often be placing your crosshairs at a distance horizon 1300m away, with your actual intended target is 500m away, or overtop of other mechs in your path who are, say, 250m away when again your target is 500m away. This will cause your PPC bolts to cross their paths, split apart, and downright miss, or simply land so spread out that the damage isn't focused, (depending on the exact conditions). You might just be only hitting with one or two of the bolts as they split before reaching the target.

The effect is especially pronounced if you have PPCs set on two seperate sides of a wide torso, like the Awesome. You can fire each side seperately to eliminate this problem, but you'll have to get used to doing a bit of torso twisting between shots to get them all to hit a specific location reliably.

[N0ni]

Cole Allard, on 21 January 2013 - 06:22 AM, said:

ahh...your the guy standing idle every 10 secs in a fight due to overheating...I thought I remembered that name from somewhere

C'mon...6 PPC's? Are you....compensating?

(or wait...nothing says "happy valentine" like a family of PPC's coming your way, forget the roses!)

Compensating, cute.

Even though i don't run this build often, nothing says "duck and cover immediately" like a 60 point Alpha to the CT (if it doesn't shred off a side torso). Yes i do overheat roughly every 10 seconds (i enjoy those alphas a tad too much), but i do help my team out a bunch by weakening armor (drastically) in which i need not worry about anything getting too close... in most matches.