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[MajorBorris]

Noth, on 23 January 2013 - 04:09 AM, said:

But you aren't doing that. All you are doing is voicing how you feel about it. There have been core players in this thread that flat out say they don't care and others that are glad it is happening.

Anyone that wants there stats reset must have reason.

Because they care about there stats is all I can come up with. A clean slate with master mechs might appeal to some.

I dont care about the stats, I care about the time it takes to gain an achievment, an achievment I have likely allready earned and may not have the time or the will to repeat.

That doesnt make sence?

Edited by MajorBorris, 23 January 2013 - 04:24 AM.

[Sean von Steinike]

MajorBorris, on 23 January 2013 - 04:21 AM, said:

Anyone that wants there stats reset must have reason.

Because they care about there stats is all I can come up with. A clean slate with master mechs might appeal to some.

I dont care about the stats, I care about the time it takes to gain an achievment, an achievment I have likely allready earned and may not have the time to repeat.

That doesnt make sence?

Please tell me which of your stats qualifies you for the 1000 drops in a Hunchback-4H achievement? Oh, that's right, you can't, because it ISN'T THERE. Are we going to take your word that you dropped 1000 times in a Hunchback-4h? You have no certain idea what the achievements will be, yet you are claiming your stats already qualify you for them. I repeat, not one achievement they put in has to have anything to do with what we currently have tracked, even if our current stats are not wiped.

[Noth]

Sean von Steinike, on 23 January 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

Please tell me which of your stats qualifies you for the 1000 drops in a Hunchback-4H achievement? Oh, that's right, you can't, because it ISN'T THERE. Are we going to take your word that you dropped 1000 times in a Hunchback-4h? You have no certain idea what the achievements will be, yet you are claiming your stats already qualify you for them. I repeat, not one achievement they put in has to have anything to do with what we currently have tracked, even if our current stats are not wiped.

Along with this, they could also not wipe stats and have only stats after the introduction of the achievements count. So they may have an achievement for 1000 matches played and you may have 3000 matches played yet you'd still not get it because it only counts the matches after the introduction of said achievement.

[MajorBorris]

Sean von Steinike, on 23 January 2013 - 04:30 AM, said:

Please tell me which of your stats qualifies you for the 1000 drops in a Hunchback-4H achievement? Oh, that's right, you can't, because it ISN'T THERE. Are we going to take your word that you dropped 1000 times in a Hunchback-4h? You have no certain idea what the achievements will be, yet you are claiming your stats already qualify you for them. I repeat, not one achievement they put in has to have anything to do with what we currently have tracked, even if our current stats are not wiped.

Something tells me you have more posts then drops.

[MrTarget]

Hmm pug stomps you say...

Well look at it like this.

You are on Team A
I am on Team B

You choose to run with 7 other random people without comms
I chose to drop with 7 other people with comms

You chose to ignore the Team based game play.
I embraced it.

You died with your last view of my Ilya dumping UAC5 rounds in to your chest till your fusion reactor overloaded.
I and my lance moved on to Beta.

Edited by MrTarget, 23 January 2013 - 04:36 AM.

[Sean von Steinike]

MajorBorris, on 23 January 2013 - 04:35 AM, said:

Something tells me you have more posts then drops.

Because I can post at work, not play the game at work maybe that is true. Again, tell me which of your stats would qualify you for the 50 kills while in a Jenner-F achievement?

[Noth]

I'd actually like rewards based on number of in match achievements gained.

Think of their being a match achievement of surviving with only your center torso, legs, and cockpit left. You get that 5 times, you get a special camo color. It would keep track of these little achievements and have very little to do with actual stats.

[MajorBorris]

Sean von Steinike, on 23 January 2013 - 04:37 AM, said:

Because I can post at work, not play the game at work maybe that is true. Again, tell me which of your stats would qualify you for the 50 kills while in a Jenner-F achievement?

Tell me where I have said I deserve any achievments I have not allready earned(2-10 times over)

[Greers]

TopDawg, on 22 January 2013 - 01:56 PM, said:

It would make more sense to keep track of stats on a daily, weekly, monthly, yearly basis, and then having 'lifetime' stats as well.

I'm not sure why it makes sense to erase stats when it should be more than feasible to simply start tracking stats for achievements when said achievements are introduced, or again the same thing when phase 3 is introduced.

If the future system doesn't show your K/D it's irrelevant if they store it somewhere or if they delete it.

[MustrumRidcully]

OneEyed Jack, on 22 January 2013 - 09:34 PM, said:

Oh, please.
They were clearly referring to the wipes of mechs, xp and such that they apparently did several times in CB.

I can't help but feel that anyone who has a real problem with this has stats that they doing something they won't be able to repeat later, once balancing is better and the exploits are fixed....

Or maybe people are still fearing that their XP, C-Bills and so on are resetted? I dunno.

I don't mind the stats, they can be nice to look at and all that, but are they really important enough to worry about them when the get reset occassionally? I don't think so.

[Sean von Steinike]

MajorBorris, on 23 January 2013 - 04:41 AM, said:

Tell me where I have said I deserve any achievments I have not allready earned(2-10 times over)

....there are no darn achievements yet so you didn't earn ANY of them. If it isn't recorded then it didn't happen. Plain and simple! You might qualify already for a hypothetical "kill 50 Atlas" achievement.....but there is no record of it so no way to prove it thus, it doesn't count for our hypothetical achievement. Is this really that hard to understand? To put it another way, you might be able to break the world record for the 100m dash all day long, but if there is no sanctioned record of it, it doesn't matter. It doesn't COUNT.

[Taiji]

I love the idea of a coming stats wipe because there are loads of people playing very little of the game in order to get nice stats.

Have to be cruel to be kind sometimes

MrTarget, on 23 January 2013 - 04:36 AM, said:

Hmm pug stomps you say...

Well look at it like this.

You are on Team A
I am on Team B

You choose to run with 7 other random people without comms
I chose to drop with 7 other people with comms

You chose to ignore the Team based game play.
I embraced it.

You died with your last view of my Ilya dumping UAC5 rounds in to your chest till your fusion reactor overloaded.
I and my lance moved on to Beta.

If someone is a lot better than you, but one of your friends saves your ***, you take the credit. I get it.

Edited by Taiji, 23 January 2013 - 05:16 AM.

[Jakob Knight]

MustrumRidcully, on 23 January 2013 - 05:01 AM, said:

Or maybe people are still fearing that their XP, C-Bills and so on are resetted? I dunno.

I don't mind the stats, they can be nice to look at and all that, but are they really important enough to worry about them when the get reset occassionally? I don't think so.

Well, it's a reasonable fear, since we don't know what 'stats' are to the Devs. If they mean only meaningless things like KDR, then no worries. If, on the other hand, XP, Pilot Progression, C-Bills, Owned units, and MC are all 'stats' in the mind of the Devs, we'd be looking at a complete reset.

Conversely, as we were told there would be no more resets unless something seriously wrong with the game forced one, it seems unlikely they would do more than cosmetic resets if they were interested in keeping the idea that they could be relied upon to keep agreements made to their customers.

Right now, we just don't know what they will do, and that is what I think has people worried.

Edited by Jakob Knight, 23 January 2013 - 05:13 AM.

[Taiji]

Jakob Knight, on 23 January 2013 - 05:12 AM, said:

Well, it's a reasonable fear, since we don't know what 'stats' are to the Devs. If they mean only meaningless things like KDR, then no worries. If, on the other hand, XP, Pilot Progression, C-Bills, Owned units, and MC are all 'stats' in the mind of the Devs, we'd be looking at a complete reset.

Something would have to be wrong with the devs understanding of the word stats in order for them to use it that way.

It seems to me you worry over nothing.

[Furniture]

The kill stats don't matter anyway, because the Elo matchmaking balances off of wins, losses, and draws, not kills/deaths.

[Max Immelmann]

do not, nor will i EVER care about stats.

[Rumjaku]

Corralis, on 22 January 2013 - 01:32 PM, said:

Well although I have battled for my 2.4 K/D score (833 Kills and 344 Deaths), I realize how useless this actually is. I would like it if they introduced an assist score as well because some find this to be the important stat (myself included).

I'm ALL about the KA's. In fact, sometimes I'd rather get all KA's in a match instead of straight up kills.

[Jakob Knight]

Taiji, on 23 January 2013 - 05:20 AM, said:

Something would have to be wrong with the devs understanding of the word stats in order for them to use it that way.

It seems to me you worry over nothing.

I agree with you, and hope this is so. However, as we've seen with ECM implementation and the Jump Jet situation, there is room to question if what the Devs understanding of a thing is what other people would expect.

[MaddMaxx]

I heard, and then wondered, why might the Dev Team have little, to no, interest in what goes on in the "General Discussion" Forum.

Then this thread went 11(and counting) pages and now, I totally understand.

What really, really needs a total WIPE is the "General Discussion Forum" (Holy Smokes Batman)

Edited by MaddMaxx, 23 January 2013 - 08:19 AM.

[Kylere]

I support the wiping of stats prior to the placement of an achievement system and I have 2k drops. Betas are screwy and the game balance swings widely.