49 replies to this topic

[CygnusX7]

+1.

[Sifright]

Well we know how to get the devs to listen to us now any way.

Dummy accounts using proxys to cover our ip, so we can discuss the merits and demerits of the game and get taken seriously

[Kensaisama]

Unfortunetly Ironbar you will get flamed for this because people are we todd did.

Edited by Kensaisama, 23 January 2013 - 08:25 AM.

[Sifright]

Kensaisama, on 23 January 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

Unfortunetly Ironbar you will get flamed for this because people are we todd did.

Well I don't know about Ironbar but you seem to rate incredibly low on the iq scale can't even spell Retarded *shakes head*

Edited by Sifright, 23 January 2013 - 08:27 AM.

[Kensaisama]

Sifright, on 23 January 2013 - 08:26 AM, said:

Well I don't know about Ironbar but you seem to rate incredibly low on the iq scale can't even spell Retarded *shakes head*

Word filter for the win, now you know why I mispelled it on purpose, care to try again sport?

[Sifright]

Kensaisama, on 23 January 2013 - 08:29 AM, said:

Word filter for the win, now you know why I mispelled it on purpose, care to try again sport?

no i prefer to take things out of context.

[Morang]

Instead of raging just register new mailbox and forum profile for each whine.

[Bully_Hayes]

Being as the question was in regard to Community outrage...as in all the nasty, threatening posts and not all forum users in general its pretty easy to see that Garths comments aren't aimed at everyone. Is it really that hard to see this ???? OR are folks sniveling because they can ??

[Fenix0742]

It isn't "we ignore people who post a lot, and listen to those who post less frequently"
It's "When you say something is ruining the game and then play 8 hours a day, we think you might be exaggerating. However, the guy who makes one post saying 'the new player experience sucks, uninstalled' and then actually quits FOREVER makes us pay attention."

Actions speak louder than words here: if you're not satisfied, stop giving them money every week. Did you ever see any of those emails from the Star Wars Old Republic MMO, where an NPC was begging the player to come back? Revoking your patronage is your most powerful tool as a consumer. The Minimum Viable Product business model BANKS on your lack of willpower to walk away. You don't need MWO, but MWO needs you. If you just keep throwing a tantrum on the fourms, and keep feeding them quarters, of course they're going to dismiss your complaints. As they say, words are wind.

Edited by Fenix0742, 23 January 2013 - 08:41 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

Seyla.

[Toong]

Sifright, on 23 January 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

no i prefer to take things out of context.

Maybe that's why you're having difficulty understanding the Ask the Devs response. Heyoo!


Yeah. Seriously though. They didn't mean that a person with a high post count has less of a say. They meant that when a person's first impression is instantly negative, that's a much more serious event than someone constantly posting negative comments and then returning to play tons more of the game they supposedly hate.

Edited by Toong, 23 January 2013 - 08:51 AM.

[PANZERBUNNY]

They know which group of players are jaded and sick of how things have turned out. Quite a few from closed Beta.

It makes sense that they would ignore a block of players they have almost outright failed, concentrating on newer players and those who simply "go along to get along".

[Sifright]

Ironbar Sinister, on 23 January 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

How in the heck do you interpret "ignoring people" out of that answer?
Do they not speak, write, and read standard English in Toronto?

Take to heart must mean something else where ever you are from. Where I am from it's pretty much synonymous with saying ignore. (when prefaced with 'dont')

Edited by Sifright, 23 January 2013 - 08:59 AM.

[Apoc1138]

Sifright, on 23 January 2013 - 08:24 AM, said:

Well we know how to get the devs to listen to us now any way.

Dummy accounts using proxys to cover our ip, so we can discuss the merits and demerits of the game and get taken seriously

OR... if you PM one of them in a polite and respectful manner... here's the surprising bit, ready for this?... THEY REPLY in the same way

[Kell Draygo]

Ironbar Sinister, on 23 January 2013 - 08:54 AM, said:

How in the heck do you interpret "ignoring people" out of that answer?
Do they not speak, write, and read standard English in Toronto?

Because we've seen this type of speech before? We've also seen the developers in closed beta say that they hear us and that they will be fixing the problems soon. This was of course in closed beta, some of they stuff they have completely ignored and swept under the carpets, and the problems they are fixing soon back then... well, not fixed yet.

So...... we speak and read the English language very well. We also learn from experience. Fool me once? Shame on you. Fool me twice? Shame on me.

[Frostiken]

Ironbar Sinister, on 23 January 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

Now I ask you - where in the heck do you get "awww they don't care about me/us guys who are constantly here posting away!" ?

Because it doesn't seem to occur to them that perhaps people with lots of posts turn into angry crankypants specifically because the devs ignore them.

I actually had high praise for these devs and their communication a long while back, in beta. That communication slowly dribbled off to nothing.

Then we were facing massive game-breaking issues. Huge outrage about the Gaussapult. Huge outrage about PPCs, the Awesome, and Large Lasers. Huge outrage about guided missiles.

All of these issues still stand. There's been a couple of token tweaks here or there, but they came many, many months and many, many patches after the first complaints. There have been plenty of excellent ideas on how to fix these problems, and it's knowing that we'll never see any new dynamics to change things up) that hurts people the most.

What exactly is the holdup? If half a dozen people working for MWLL that aren't getting paid any money can release patches on a regular basis and actually implement new features like a HUD overhaul, what are the paid professionals doing? I must be missing something because unless IGP is a bureaucratic nightmare, what really stops the devs from working on something new and releasing it in a timely manner?

Edited by Frostiken, 23 January 2013 - 09:07 AM.

[Kell Draygo]

I'm not surprised they want to ignore those with a lot of post counts and have been here since closed beta. Those are the ones who have seen the problems that have plagued this game, have sent in countless thought out and precise tickets on what is wrong and what can be done, and then were ignored. Now they point out the same glaring issues except with less faith and of course, they are no longer as nice.

So who's fault is it in this case?

We now know how they sweep things under the rug and are being vocal about that as well.

[Roland]

Ironbar Sinister, on 23 January 2013 - 08:16 AM, said:

PGI doesn't care about me because I post a lot

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT

[Kell Draygo]

Roland, on 23 January 2013 - 09:08 AM, said:

HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT

What you just said doesn't matter. You have 1990 posts.

[Kensaisama]

I always find it amusing when people throw tantrums and expect to be taken seriously.