15 replies to this topic

[Joe Mallad]

The reason I suggest that they need a rework is... Do you guys realize that if you have target decay and 360 targeting modules on a mech with Streaks... You can target an enemy mech and even if it runs behind you, you can fire your streaks and they will do a full circle around your mech and still hit the enemy mech? Because I can keep target lock on an enemy from the 360 targeting and not lose lock as fast because of the target decay module, I can fire streaks at targets behind me lol. This should not be allowed to happen lol.

[CancR]

Streaks where terrible before this, but as time goes on they are only getting worse. stop rewarding the lowest skilled players for the easiest thing to do do.

[focuspark]

really... they do that? screw these SRM6 launchers... I'm getting SSRM2 now.

[Solis Obscuri]

CancR, on 31 January 2013 - 04:52 PM, said:

Streaks where terrible before this, but as time goes on they are only getting worse. stop rewarding the lowest skilled players for the easiest thing to do do.

But then we couldn't have ECM...

[CancR]

What?

[Antarius]

rework idea:

Let them follow your aiming-dot. If you hold it at a Mech the rockets aim at it, if you loose this lock, they fly in the last direction they headed until you aim again at a target or they reach there fly-limit 360m.

If you dont have a lock or be jammed by an ECM, they work as an heavier version of a SRM2.

Simple, add some work to fireing Streaks, without destroying its benefits to normal SRMs.

[CancR]

http://mwomercs.com/...big-fix-thread/

Check out my big fix thread for the simplest and best solution to ecm, streaks, and more.

[Xandralkus]

Instantaneous target lock loss if the reticule is not held in the target box would work quite well.

[CancR]

Xandralkus, on 01 February 2013 - 04:43 PM, said:

Instantaneous target lock loss if the reticule is not held in the target box would work quite well.

Yeah, but post it there.

[Ranek Blackstone]

I'd settle for streaks getting a debuff in the turning radius. You'd need to lead the target since they couldn't auto correct as much, but they'd be easier to use then the basic SRMs.

[Empedocles]

Even as someone who uses Ssrms, I agree their turning circles are way over the top.
I would suggest that they can only turn a certain amount per distance travelled, e.g: 30 degrees per 50 metres.
This would preserve the only fire when locked mechanism but would stop the wild twisting about stuff.

[focuspark]

Empedocles, on 04 February 2013 - 03:43 PM, said:

Even as someone who uses Ssrms, I agree their turning circles are way over the top.
I would suggest that they can only turn a certain amount per distance travelled, e.g: 30 degrees per 50 metres.
This would preserve the only fire when locked mechanism but would stop the wild twisting about stuff.

That would allow nearly a 180 degree turn...

Perhaps no more than 30 degrees period if more realistic.

[Empedocles]

Well lets remember they are guided missiles and not dumb fire. At the moment (with the right modules) you can fire at a target thats not even in your field of view.
PGI have implemented ssrm's as per canon in my view (from Sarna.net: Originally developed in 2647, the Streak SRM Launcher is relatively similar to the standard SRM launcher but linked to a unique Targa-7 fire control system. This system is designed to guarantee a hit against any target onto which the pilot can get a lock, a special feature of this system preventing the weapon from firing at a target when there is no lock-on, saving ammunition by preventing shots that would miss anyway.) however, while this works fine in TT, it needs toning down in the video game.

[Karl Split]

Make streams not track very well so 1/2 of them miss a fast moving target with good transversal and it'll all be good.

[Antarius]

Empedocles, on 05 February 2013 - 12:17 AM, said:

Well lets remember they are guided missiles and not dumb fire. At the moment (with the right modules) you can fire at a target thats not even in your field of view.
PGI have implemented ssrm's as per canon in my view (from Sarna.net: Originally developed in 2647, the Streak SRM Launcher is relatively similar to the standard SRM launcher but linked to a unique Targa-7 fire control system. This system is designed to guarantee a hit against any target onto which the pilot can get a lock, a special feature of this system preventing the weapon from firing at a target when there is no lock-on, saving ammunition by preventing shots that would miss anyway.) however, while this works fine in TT, it needs toning down in the video game.

about the TT-rules... quoting a "semi-technical" explanation from a TT for a simple feature, "dont use ammo/heat if you dont hit", isnt the right way to implement it in a FPS/SIM.
If you want to translate the feature in MWO, you would shoot them like normal SRMs(because same change to hit in TT) if you hit one rocket, all rocket do damage at random locations, if all miss, you get your ammo and your heat back.
This would be close (still better as in TT) to TT, but not realy good for a FPS/SIM.

So you have to change them, but need to balance them with normal SRMs, because they are similar. Atm nobody would think about to use a SRM2 luncher, if he could get for only 0.5 tons more a streak, with nearly no ammo waste.

lower the effectivness of Streaks, with a harder to control, yes maybe the, lockon after every shot-thing... and it shouldnt be effected by ECM (couldnt read anything of this sort in the BT-rulebooks, shouldnt even stop LRMs... but an other thing)

[focuspark]

Still think SSRM should project a beam, like TAG, for 2 seconds when fired. If the beam is kept on a target continuously for 0.5 seconds or collectively for 1.0 seconds, the missiles fire and hit the target. Otherwise the system cannot get a lock, and doesn't fire: no heat, no ammo used. System that requires skill, LOS, and doesn't get blocked by ECM.

Yeah, yeah, I know...