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[Drenzul]

Its simply because it makes the other mechs in the same class pointless if they don't have it.

Any light without ECM is inferior to another light that can do everything else just as well with ECM.

There is pretty much no point taking any other Assault than a D-DC at the moment.

The problem is here is that for their weight, ECMs are very effective, the effect itself isn't overwhelming but a D-DC or light can pretty much take their normal load-out and still run with the ECM.

What I would advise doing (so as not to **** anyone off too much) is making ECM versions of the current ECM mechs.

So you would have the D-DC-E which is capable of carrying less weight and weapon-slots than a standard D-DC but can carry ECM, I'd suggest 2xLaser, 2xMissile, 1xBalistic, meaning its still a nasty mech (2LL + AC20 + 2SRM6/LRM 15) but its not quite as powerful in terms of sheer fire-power as the standard D-DC.

The same would be applied to the ECM lights.

This would mean it would be best to take a combination of ECM and non-ECM mechs onto the battlefield, a combined force would be more powerful than a force of pure ECM boats, rather than the swarms of ECM boats we see in 8v8s at the moment.

[Amonchakad]

Congratulations on creating yet another topic about a by-now-ground-into-mush horse, pointing out an extremely obvious flaw about ECM. One of the many.

Edited by Amonchakad, 05 February 2013 - 05:58 AM.

[Joseph Mallan]

The counter for ECM is direct fire weapons and SRMs.
And it didn't take a bunch of C-bills to counter it. Your D-DC-E variant is nothing more than an Atlas-D Minus 2 laser HPs. just sayin...

[Drenzul]

No, its -1 Missile and 1 Ballistic actually... which was the point, that it would bring it more into balance with the other Assaults then....

Its not a 'needing a counter' problem, its a ECM is more useful than not having ECM problem. I don't have a problem fighting ECM.

Do people bother reading before they hit reply? Clearly not.

[Wolf Ender]

we're just filling our "3 new threads about ECM per day" quota

[GODzillaGSPB]

Drenzul, on 05 February 2013 - 05:54 AM, said:

Its simply because it makes the other mechs in the same class pointless if they don't have it.

Genious!

No kidding. We actually never noticed it during the weeks and months ECM is in the game.

[Joseph Mallan]

GODzillaGSPB, on 05 February 2013 - 06:18 AM, said:

Genious!

No kidding. We actually never noticed it during the weeks and months ECM is in the game.

I haven't noticed a single Mech being useless I have seen a shift away from LRMs and the slow return of them as well. But I do not see a single useless Mech.

(well flamer/mg boating one but that's a different thread.)

Edited by Joseph Mallan, 05 February 2013 - 06:21 AM.

[Exodus 2pt0]

I am about equally effective between my 3l and 2x Raven's. I use AMS and lasers on the 2x, and I find both equally enjoyable.

I really don't see your point, so are you saying every mech should be ECM capable?

[Drenzul]

No, I was saying that every ECM capable mech should have a comparable disadvantage.

A lower number of weapon slots would do that forcing them to use the more inefficient heavier weapons to get similar firepower.

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[color=#959595]No kidding. We actually never noticed it during the weeks and months ECM is in the game.

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