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#1 Primetimex

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:29 AM

OK, I know there are other threads about headshots - but I need some feedback on this as it is bordering on the ridiculous!

Many times I've come face to face with a Catapult at a point blank range with my Stalker so then I proceeded to unload in the 'Pult's centre cockpit dead-on (yes I know where the hitbox is) and few more alpha's later of 2 LL and 4 ML and it's still standing - NO HEADSHOT??!!!

I then ended up coring the 'Pult anyway - so is the headshot in MWO broken?? Seriously - meanwhile someone else managed to headshot 2 Stalkers from a distance with PPCs - a jumping Phract no less??!!

#2 PurpleNinja

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:34 AM

Unless your target is standing still, headshots are pure luck.
All you can do is point your weapons towards the head and ask the bless of the gods.

:) :)

#3 Redshift2k5

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:35 AM

No, headshots are not broken. you either missed or were suffering from some lag/hit detection issues

#4 Chrithu

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:35 AM

Problem with lasers is: You have to stay on that pit for ALL of the Beam duration. Otherwise you just scatter your damage between cockpit and torso. On a moving target löasers are just useless for reliably scoring headshots. LPLs and MPLs do the trick a lot better in my experience.

#5 Cest7

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:36 AM

Catapults have the biggest head hitbox in the game

#6 Commander Kobold

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:37 AM

I only drive a catapult atm and I can tell you headshots are working just fine, you just missed.

#7 LordDante

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:37 AM

i dont know how often i had that Problem but most of the time its because of a lag spike Posted Image

#8 Ryllen Kriel

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:45 AM

I've piloted Catapults for awhile now and I can tell you that the cockpit gets blown out too damn often. That, plus having such a huge center torso is rather rough when you find yourself at close range combat.

You likely just are missing the cockpit, the one in the Catapult is the easiest target you'll get.

#9 Ozric

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 03:58 AM

lol, the cats head hitbox is massive. Get yourself into the training grounds and have some headshot practice.

#10 Primetimex

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:03 AM

I can't possibly miss, because: the Pult was stuck in position between me and the base pole - ie it can't move, so there I was hammering away at the cockpit - it's as clear as day - I'm 100% sure I don't miss and I keep the alpha of lasers full on on to the cockpit till it finishes.

So, no misses and yes there is a hitbox problem when there is no headshot from a pointblank LL and ML alpha!

#11 Cest7

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:04 AM

Convergence.

#12 Commander Kobold

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:06 AM

yeah if you where that close you had a convergence fail.

#13 Primetimex

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:07 AM

So what causes this convergence fail?

#14 Stefan Schneider

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:07 AM

Its working way more than intended mann. . .
3 days ago, I was headshotted thrice in a row man, talking about bad luck. . .
With all of my other armors intact, only the cockpit is blown . . .

Feel like crying at that moment . . .. . T_T

#15 Dr Killinger

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:08 AM

Must have been your convergence. A Catapult is the easiest thing in the world to headshot.

#16 tuokaerf

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:10 AM

They work. When I'm cycling targets in my Ilya for the next gauss round and come across one, it's like "ohhhh, Catapult...", raise target reticle, dakka. Big hitbox for the cockpit.

#17 Lyteros

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:10 AM

Try aiming a little above the cockpit, convergence issues might hit the CT if you try to center your shots on the cockpit. I peeled a lot of cata pilots out of their cockpit over time, which thought standing still is a good idea.

#18 Commander Kobold

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:11 AM

View PostPrimetimex, on 19 March 2013 - 04:07 AM, said:

So what causes this convergence fail?


being too close to your target (i.e face hugging)

View PostDr Killinger, on 19 March 2013 - 04:08 AM, said:

Must have been your convergence. A Catapult is the easiest thing in the world to headshot.


cataphracts are easier

#19 Primetimex

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:12 AM

Alright thanks for the tip Lyteros - I actually centered my shots dead straight at the cockpit. I read and followed this information on this discussion thread on hitboxes: http://mwomercs.com/...x-localisation/

So I concentrated dead centre on the yellow head hitbox area ... but OK I'll try aiming a little above the cockpit.

And yes me Stalker and the Pult where humping each other ^^

Edited by Primetimex, 19 March 2013 - 04:13 AM.


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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:46 AM

Aim right under the hinge. Works every time.

Once headshot a pult with 4xPPC from 700 meters away. Was very nice.





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