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[Toong]

Oh look. Another poorly-worded, leading poll.

[QuantumButler]

Evidence of how FAIR and BALANCED the A1 is will be on every page of this thread.



Goto 3:00 for PURE BALANCE and EAR SHOTS.

[Flying Blind]

I don't think anything needs to be done. yes they are very strong mechs but that's ok, we need strong mechs so there's variety on the battlefield. if we nerf everything to the point that no chasis has any distinctadvantages it won't matter what mech you pilot, it will all be the same.

if we MUST try to limit the cats a light torso twist restriction would be the way to go. I wouldn't complain about displaying a large gun in the torso either, but really neither of these things are important.

[Justa Dogtrooper]

made it to page 5 before my brain dribbled out my ....kin ear...
Old...old....old.

Why would you want to fix something thats not broke?
Its a Catapult, once workhorse of the IS.
Its a legend and will tear you a new one if you dont give it the respect it deserves.
Get pounced by one and I pity you...

[QuantumButler]

Flying Blind, on 07 February 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

I don't think anything needs to be done. yes they are very strong mechs but that's ok, we need strong mechs so there's variety on the battlefield. if we nerf everything to the point that no chasis has any distinctadvantages it won't matter what mech you pilot, it will all be the same.

if we MUST try to limit the cats a light torso twist restriction would be the way to go. I wouldn't complain about displaying a large gun in the torso either, but really neither of these things are important.

Yeah let's have a 65 ton mech that's stronger than the Cataphract or the freaking Awesome, that's balance right?

Justa Dogtrooper, on 07 February 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

made it to page 5 before my brain dribbled out my ....kin ear...
Old...old....old.

Why would you want to fix something thats not broke?
Its a Catapult, once workhorse of the IS.
Its a legend and will tear you a new one if you dont give it the respect it deserves.
Get pounced by one and I pity you...

>Catapult
>Not Broken

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[Tarantoga]

one trick pony builds are fine, what is not fine are versatile builds like raven 3l with auto hit missiles, lasers, ecm and 150 kmph speed dominating the game, ecm is large part of current game imbalance as it makes certain mechs more powerful than other variants of same classes

[Joseph Mallan]

QuantumButler, on 07 February 2013 - 08:10 AM, said:

Yeah let's have a 65 ton mech that's stronger than the Cataphract or the freaking Awesome, that's balance right?

yeah it is. I have built a few in my day. Thunderbolt was a fantastic 65 ton Mech that out of the box was painful to face. Even in an Awesome.

[QuantumButler]

Tarantoga, on 07 February 2013 - 08:12 AM, said:

one trick pony builds are fine, what is not fine are versatile builds like raven 3l with auto hit missiles, lasers, ecm and 150 kmph speed dominating the game, ecm is large part of current game imbalance as it makes certain mechs more powerful than other variants of same classes

When the "one trick" is "being able to effortlessly vaporize most mechs in 2 alpha strikes" without giving up any speed, armor, or maneuverability to do so, then no, the "one trick pony" isn't "just fine".

[FupDup]

Suddenly, Thunder and Gauss Kats start being much, much more careful...

[QuantumButler]

FupDup, on 07 February 2013 - 08:17 AM, said:

Suddenly, Thunder and Gauss Kats start being much, much more careful...

This would be amazing, though the insane owl twist would still be too good. At least drop it down to what the Jenner has.

[KinLuu]

QuantumButler, on 07 February 2013 - 08:15 AM, said:

When the "one trick" is "being able to effortlessly vaporize most mechs in 2 alpha strikes" without giving up any speed, armor, or maneuverability to do so, then no, the "one trick pony" isn't "just fine".

You are wrong.

[QuantumButler]

KinLuu, on 07 February 2013 - 08:18 AM, said:

You are wrong.

So are you.

[Kommisar]

The solution to the SRMCat (and other short range, destroyer builds perhaps) may be the new maps.

It's easy to roll a very niche build when all of our engagements are in that specific niche. Short range, small map with good to great cover, and ECM where "Brawling" is the dominate tactical doctrine. Change that by throwing in some larger maps into the rotation and things may change.

After all, who wants to have rounds where their SRMCat spends the whole round getting harassed by fast Dragons or Centurions packing AC/5s or PPCs? Or with a TAG laser all over you?

[QuantumButler]

Kommisar, on 07 February 2013 - 08:28 AM, said:

The solution to the SRMCat (and other short range, destroyer builds perhaps) may be the new maps.

It's easy to roll a very niche build when all of our engagements are in that specific niche. Short range, small map with good to great cover, and ECM where "Brawling" is the dominate tactical doctrine. Change that by throwing in some larger maps into the rotation and things may change.

After all, who wants to have rounds where their SRMCat spends the whole round getting harassed by fast Dragons or Centurions packing AC/5s or PPCs? Or with a TAG laser all over you?

Those same SRMcats are almost as fast as the mythical Fast Dragons and can murder them effortlessly..

Larger maps will not do anything to reduce their potency.

And even then, the gaussapult can go just as fast and has 2 gauss rifles, srmcats can just roll with a gaussapult buddy and effortlessly slaughter everything.

Edited by QuantumButler, 07 February 2013 - 08:33 AM.

[Dagger6T6]

and the C4 continues to dance under the radar of the nerf QQ

[QuantumButler]

Dagger6T6, on 07 February 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

and the C4 continues to dance under the radar of the nerf QQ

This is also a good point.

If new, super big maps arrive, the C4 may gain popularity, 4 srm6s vaporize things nearly as fast as 6, and they can carry midrange lasers too.

[wonator]

Hey man, its hard to think, lets nerf everything that can kill me.

[QuantumButler]

wonator, on 07 February 2013 - 08:44 AM, said:

Hey man, its hard to think, lets nerf everything that can kill me.

I'm a A1 pilot and I'm complaining that it's too good and it makes me feel dirty for running it, try again.

[wonator]

QuantumButler, on 07 February 2013 - 08:45 AM, said:

I'm a A1 pilot and I'm complaining that it's too good and it makes me feel dirty for running it, try again.

Its not that good, just ppl are too stupid.

[MaddMaxx]

QuantumButler, on 07 February 2013 - 08:07 AM, said:

Evidence of how FAIR and BALANCED the A1 is will be on every page of this thread.



Goto 3:00 for PURE BALANCE and EAR SHOTS.

What evidence? The enemy team left you alone most of the time, never once focused down "the BIG threat" and you spent a lot of time running about.

Re-do that video against a "good team", and see how you make out with your 270m range. Even I could kill 3+ enemy mechs in a freaking Stalker, if the other Team simply left me alone as well.