To be a 31st century mechwarrior is to be entrusted with great authority and responsibility to both ones nation and ones family estate. The care and sacrifice by which these ancient repositories of authority and station were passed down for more than three centuries weighs heavily in the thinking of anyone bearing the title Mechwarrior. With the discovery of the Helm Core, times have changed for the better with prosperity forcing some uncomfortable accomadations. Here we find Twilight Sparkle a nervous wreck as Rarity directs her techs in a strip down and rebuild of the DRG-5PK to better suit the excengencies of the upcoming mission.
Pinkie 3.14's blazie attitude concerning the incorporation of 4 of the least competitive weapon load outs is certainly not helping Lt. Sparkle cope with the situation.
With some of beta tester icon requests in the main discussion threads I thought it would be funny to have Pinkie 3.14 crying a river. It is easy to find pics of her crying but so far I have not found one with her crying a river into existence. I find this lack of ponified meme disturbing. I challenge our artists to come up with a motion gif that encapsulates the phrase "Cry me a river" in all its ponydom and Pinkie 3.14 in all her glory.
My Little Pony threads rule. They are simply the best forum socializing I have had the priviledge of experiencing. In most forums conversations that one may strike up with firiends and associates of like mind and interest are constantly subject to the tyrrany of immature and thoughtless moderators. The constant interference in off topic private conversations is unconscienable. It is akin to attending a Nascar Race with friends and family, enjoying a good conversation, then being braced by the racing officials for discussing something other than fast cars and fast women in an inebriated state. Your subsequent conversation is then subject to parabolic silent sound editing, and eventual ejection from the race park for conduct unbecoming a hoosier.
This tyranical editing and censorship would not be tollerated while you dine out, visit friends, shop, etc... There is almost no venue you participate in day to day life where this sort of behavior would not result in a phone call to the sherrif's dept. and a law suit, if not a knock down drag out brawl as well.
Here on the internet the rules seem to be different thanks to the anonymous crowd of indisciplined barbarians. Moderators are needed to keep the net from burning to the water line with flame wars and completly depraved pics and posts. Keeping threads on topic is a useful service, the phenomenon of moderation does not simply appear from a vacume. Never the less one must ask the perenial question "Who watches the watchmen?" In my experience the moderator is an interfering busy body imposing his or her will for the sake of being able to do so. Thier behavior reminds me of this Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Gallaxy Vogosphere scene.
Can you spot a moderator's unwarranted interference in a civil entertaining conversation between friends?
This behavior is endemic to online socializing and is one of the principal reasons I enjoy My Little Pony threads. Polite and freindly conversations on just about anything can go for long stretches between moderator infractions. MWO forums have been a better experience for this Pony influence than most others I have participated in.
So here's my thanks and acknowlegement to PGI for the establishment of the "Let There Be Pony" corral. Without this policy and the mods who enforce it, Mechwarrior Online would not be nearly as appealing.
LocationStomping around in a giant robot, of course.
Posted 24 October 2012 - 06:48 PM
Samaritan, on 24 October 2012 - 04:22 PM, said:
This tyranical editing and censorship would not be tollerated while you dine out, visit friends, shop, etc... There is almost no venue you participate in day to day life where this sort of behavior would not result in a phone call to the sherrif's dept. and a law suit, if not a knock
Stop trying to compare public expression with a private forum and it's rules. In fact, you've ruined your entire argument in this simple act of total ignorance of the rules you willingly agreed to when you entered this forum. You have zero freedom of expression beyond what the moderators allow, as representatives of the owners of this place.
If you came into my home and decided it would be your right to "express" your speech by taking a dump on my living room floor, I have all the rights in the world to take you and eject you from my home, clean up the mess, and continue my life as I wish.
My home, my private residence, my rules. Forums like this are no different for their owners- if they find your postings offensive or against the rules of their house, they will be excised. If you don't like it, leave.
Freedom of expression ends when you use it to trample your host underfoot.
oh man... hate to admit this, but after actually watching Tara McMilf Strong do various voices at comic con, find myself unfortunately aroused by the dialog in The Fairly OddParents..
I suppose you are correct. Private property rights are important. Business' have the right and responsibility to refuse service for rowdy patrons interfering with others and or destroying property. Keeping the peace in the long and practical experience of hosting and maintaining forums where so many have misbehaved in the past has resulted in EULA=esq posting of boundries. Wanderer, I am sure you have had to deal with the barbarians by the short shrift and tone you have taken. I'm sorry the ballance of pure BS liberties people have taken at the expense of forum hosts has exhausted your patience. Why else would your knee jerk reaction be to point me to the door.
No moderator has ever done nor can do wrong. I should not have expressed my gratitude for the policies and enforcement practices of PGI and thier staff here. I do not believe this to be your contention.
As a Christian I use the policy of forgiveness to retain my peace and contentment when dealing with unlovely people, Seperation can be necessary, but it is not the first and last tool in the shed for dealing with others when our norms, standards, or arrogance gets poked. Civill torts and criminal actions have a proper venue and are used when necessary to protect the next person from the violator's egregious behavior. I don't think anything I have posted falls into that catagory.
When two or three individuals are merrilly chating it up in a forum dedicated to a mutual interest and the friendly conversation veeres into pony in the process, what right does a moderator have to lock the thread and delete content? More to the point what buisness wants to alienate customers by doing so? Forums are not bars. People don't die from the negligence of a moderator's failed policing action.
I found Pony here and find it to be an excellant motivator to art and conversation that would otherwise get an unprovoked jack boot to the groin by thoughtless moderation. Haven't you experienced that sort of treatment? I like sharing knowledge, telling stories, and entertaining with humorous photoshoped offerings. I can do that here and damn few other places I have come to find out the hard way.
And yes wanderer this sort of abuse by moderators did result in my spending about half an hour mulling over "The Highway" option after several years of posting excellant battletech related writing to Solaris 7. A domain of my own was my conclusion.
I've read your posts Wanderer, you seem like a reasonable and likeable person, so naturally when you throw the book at me like this I want to make sure you intend to offend before taking offense. I also want to review my own words to make sure that the limitations to effective communication in posting to forums hasn't left room for unintended slights. Make no mistake, if a moderator is censoring in an emotional tirade, that spade is a spade. But really now is my previous post that offensive?.
And now for a perfectly calm and rational response.
LocationStomping around in a giant robot, of course.
Posted 25 October 2012 - 06:12 AM
Samaritan, on 25 October 2012 - 12:52 AM, said:
I've read your posts Wanderer, you seem like a reasonable and likeable person, so naturally when you throw the book at me like this I want to make sure you intend to offend before taking offense. I also want to review my own words to make sure that the limitations to effective communication in posting to forums hasn't left room for unintended slights. Make no mistake, if a moderator is censoring in an emotional tirade, that spade is a spade. But really now is my previous post that offensive?.
And now for a perfectly calm and rational response.
The general rule is, if you're offending your host, it's offensive. While I may not find it offensive, and you may not- in the end, it is the one setting the standards who determines this. We may find THEIR standards offensive- but this does not give us the option to repeatedly attempt to step on their toes and then complain that we're being responded to in a negative manner.
Perhaps you might consider that despite enjoying a certain mode of expression, if it repeatedly results in moderation- you're doing it in the wrong place and should adjust your aim accordingly, akin to attempting to do origami with rice paper while standing in the middle of a toasty hot bonfire. You might well have the equivalent of a hostile environment suit, but your work does not and is being cast into the fire to little effect other than frustration on your part.
Or, to put it into more concise terminology- stop casting your pearls before swine, especially when you know they're ready to trample them underfoot, including sneaking content you KNOW is going to end up purged into threads where rationally, you know it's only going to serve as some kind of persecution complex feeder as you watch it get deleted.
And because it'd be bad not to post something better after all that, have some Rarity.
I just find this so funny, about how MLP has changed me...
For a long time I always liked cartoons and anime alike, from:
Evangelion, Ranma, Ghost in the Shell to Rocko's modern life, Lilo and Stitch and the like.
Yet I never become a true fan as a result of liking it.
I also like sci fi alot but my special taste versus what I create on my own (Imagination) has pushed aside everything in it's wake.
(A side effect from creating a Universe on your own)
Then along comes My Little Pony and for the first time I find myself becoming a fan, a brony that is.
As I live in Sweden I have very accepting people around me. None batted an eye for what I like, since I like a little of everything.
At the same time it's a bit lonely when a majority of the other fans live over in USA, with all the Bronycons and meetups,
If I ask anyone here about MLP: FiM the most common answer is that they remember it from the 80's XD.
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