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#1 Ph30nix

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:47 PM

to keep ammo in the cockpit? i currently have some ammo stored there i was going to move it but then i thought... for the ammo to blow the armor in that area needs to be destroyed, if my cockpit armor is destroyed im dead anywas. so screw it it stays lol

unless armor doesnt need to be fully destroyed to destroy a critical?

#2 Roughneck45

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:51 PM

Is it secret?

#3 Traigus

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:52 PM

Pretty safe.

Once your armor is gone thy can hit and roll for crits, but with the firepower a lot of people are swinging around. the first and second hit to the head will be with more than 1 gun.

You are much more likely to die from the normal damage than ever having a chance for your attacker to roll any crit at all, let alone hit the ammo.

#4 tuokaerf

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:53 PM

I do on occasion. I don't notice any difference when I die.

#5 jakucha

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:53 PM

Yes. If your cockpit gets breached you're dead anyway.

#6 Kaspirikay

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:55 PM

In my boomcat I have ac20 ammo in between my legs and on my lap.

#7 xxx WreckinBallRaj xxx

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 02:59 PM

May as well put ammo there. 4/5 chance to die anyway once its armor is gone; bumping up to 5/5 from an ammo explosion won't even be noticed. Also, how often do you die from headshots in this game? You'll get more explosions from it in the chest or torsos.

#8 armyof1

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:02 PM

Well since the ammo in the cockpit is used up first, you seldom die due to ammo explosion in the cockpit unless you're hit with a headshot really early in the game. So if you have 3T of AC20 ammo you can have 1T in the cockpit, but if you're only carrying 1T srm ammo that usually last almost the entire match, then better keep it somewhere else.

#9 FrostCollar

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:05 PM

It's the safest place to put it. I can barely remember the last match I got my armor from my cockpit stripped and when it happens you're usually dead already.

#10 Ph30nix

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:07 PM

View PostRoughneck45, on 14 March 2013 - 02:51 PM, said:

Is it secret?

bonus points for Lord of the rings refernce

#11 Tarman

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:08 PM

View PostBluten, on 14 March 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

May as well put ammo there. 4/5 chance to die anyway once its armor is gone; bumping up to 5/5 from an ammo explosion won't even be noticed. Also, how often do you die from headshots in this game? You'll get more explosions from it in the chest or torsos.



I never actually read any of your posts anymore because you like them all. You should start signing them too, it could usher in a whole new era.

#12 GrimlockONE

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:13 PM

For some reason the phrasing of the post title reminds of the "Will it Blend" youtube videos. I imagined the guy in the videos saying....Is it safe?.



#13 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostPh30nix, on 14 March 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

to keep ammo in the cockpit? i currently have some ammo stored there i was going to move it but then i thought... for the ammo to blow the armor in that area needs to be destroyed, if my cockpit armor is destroyed im dead anywas. so screw it it stays lol

unless armor doesnt need to be fully destroyed to destroy a critical?


i kinda figure if youre hit in the head there wont BE a crit so...

#14 Commander Kobold

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:15 PM

View PostBluten, on 14 March 2013 - 02:59 PM, said:

May as well put ammo there. 4/5 chance to die anyway once its armor is gone; bumping up to 5/5 from an ammo explosion won't even be noticed. Also, how often do you die from headshots in this game? You'll get more explosions from it in the chest or torsos.


depends on what mech you're running phracts and pults lhave pretty big head boxes.

#15 GrimlockONE

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:17 PM

On topic, I would not chance someone getting a shot at the cockpit and causing that ammo to go off.

Look at it like this, AC20 ammo, 7rounds, none used, when hit critically would destroy you. Hell, even 1 round left would destroy the cockpit rendering you incapable of combat, but very much capable of spectating.

#16 armyof1

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:20 PM

View PostOmni 13, on 14 March 2013 - 03:15 PM, said:


depends on what mech you're running phracts and pults lhave pretty big head boxes.


Catapults would be a good exception but not Cataphracts as they have a minuscule headshot box. Unless the Phract was shut down due to overheating, a headshot on them requires a huge amount of luck.

#17 Mechwarrior Buddah

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:23 PM

View Postarmyof1, on 14 March 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:


Catapults would be a good exception but not Cataphracts as they have a minuscule headshot box. Unless the Phract was shut down due to overheating, a headshot on them requires a huge amount of luck.


and Awesomes. they have HUGE hitboxes for the head. Atlas' are tiny tho

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 03:36 PM

View Postarmyof1, on 14 March 2013 - 03:20 PM, said:


Catapults would be a good exception but not Cataphracts as they have a minuscule headshot box. Unless the Phract was shut down due to overheating, a headshot on them requires a huge amount of luck.



Yeah, Catapults are the only mechs I can consistently kill by headshot, especially when painting them with a few lasers, Aside from the Cataphract coming out with a GINORMOUS head hitbox that was hotfixed, I'm not even sure if I've killed any other mech by headshot... Ever.... in like 1100 games.

#19 Phaesphoros

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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:02 PM

IMHO, you should store ammo in a location where you
  • either won't lose your armor often before dying
  • or where you lose your armor last
It depends on the mech where these locations are. Omni13 already stated cockpit might be a bad choice for CTPLT, but you could also collect some data yourself (death screen). Some lights like RVN are being legged often (due to bugged hit boxes), CN9 tend to lose their weapon arm and so on.


You could even argue that if you have an XL engine, you can put ammo into side torso: if this section is stripped, you'll die quick anyway (e.g. lights).

Note critical hits are distributed amongst all items in that section, probability to hit an item is proportional to the number of critical slots it occupies. So if you have 3 DHS in a section (9 critical slots), you might put a ton of ammo there, too.

Edited by Phaesphoros, 14 March 2013 - 04:02 PM.


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Posted 14 March 2013 - 04:56 PM

View PostKaspirikay, on 14 March 2013 - 02:55 PM, said:

In my boomcat I have ac20 ammo in between my legs and on my lap.



Carries AC20 ammo in his lap, hits like an MG.

Hey. Just what I heard...





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