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[UraniumOverdose]

I would like to see peoples opinions on the AC20

Edited by UraniumOverdose, 11 February 2013 - 08:02 AM.

[Mechteric]

Heat and damage/dps are fine I feel. I would certainly like to see it be 8 rounds per ton instead of 7, that would be perfect. Wouldn't argue with more impact either

[UraniumOverdose]

Bumping this thread, otherone has spelling issues with the title.

[UraniumOverdose]

If you posted in the other duplicate thread, post in this one.

[Strig]

I dropped a multiple answer. Truth be told, I think the AC20 is fine, but it could definitely stand to have more health (Every mech I run with an AC20 loses it almost as fast as I lose Gauss Rifles). I'd love to see them do some serious cockpit rocking; streaks from commandos/ravens still cause more disruption (visual obstruction from smoke more than rocking, but still far more effective disruption than the "mighty" AC20).

[UraniumOverdose]

Yeah personally I think heat and damage are fine. My Main beef with the ac20 is the fact it gets critted almost right away, and the fact that hitting an enemy is not devastating. I mess up an enemies view far more with an ac2/uac5 barrage or srms than an ac20 to the fast. Although with a small 2 point damage increase, they would further distance themselves from gauss.

Edited by UraniumOverdose, 11 February 2013 - 08:23 AM.

[CancR]

The ac 20 does the most damage in the game and doesn't need a buff. What needs to be fixed is weapons that do more damage or are to easy to use then they should be.

[UraniumOverdose]

CancR, on 11 February 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

The ac 20 does the most damage in the game and doesn't need a buff. What needs to be fixed is weapons that do more damage or are to easy to use then they should be.

What good is all that damage when the weapon health is about as tough as cardboard?

[CG Oglethorpe Kerensky]

So this is what this about...

"My dual AC/20 cat loses its autocannons when i get wrecked and I don't like it. So I am going to make a poll..."

I have a suggestion, put 2 tons of AC ammo in the empty two slots so that those get hit sometimes instead of the AC

Edited by CG Oglethorpe Kerensky, 11 February 2013 - 09:09 AM.

[UraniumOverdose]

Hey look it's a goon. Got anything better to do?

[maXe72]

They need to fix the first shot lag !
AC10/AC20 is not useable for me, cause it adds the reload delay to first shot...

The other AC does this as well, but its not that long period of time.
There has to be another way of checking the fire rate on serverside.

[UnseenFury]

Everything is fine except make it shake enemy screen even more and give it ability to knock enemy mechs down.

Depends on the mech fore sure, like 50% chance to knock over lights if you hit them in the leg, 25% chance to knock down medium and 5% to knock down heavy.

No, scratch the percents, just bound it to physics stuff, like mechs mass/speed/line of moving and line of impact.

That would be awesome.

But not smart devs said that bringing collisions back is not priority and will be added back later this year.

Edited by Paran01ac, 11 February 2013 - 11:49 AM.

[Angelos Sanguinum]

"The weapon gets critted less often" - its not gauss right, so how its supposed to crit with full armor or no armor ?
Now its working normally but in previous patch it was failing after a scratch, which was BS bug.
So, when I mount a Huge cannon with which I can Ram buildings down I want it to work not only to the last shell but to the last structure point.

[Elder Thorn]

maybe add 1 shot / ton of ammo and stop making it die as soon as someone touches it - on the other hand, how can we say, that it doesn't have enough ammo, when we complain about losing it so fast?

In addition it would be nice to have more effect on smaller mechs, like knockdown or maybe alterate direction. So if i hit a fast mech from the side, it would be pushed sidewards a bit.

[focuspark]

I guess my only suggestion is: all other AC do 150 pts of damage per ton of ammo, but AC20 only does 140. I'd like to see a second ton of ammo get 8 rounds if it's the same section of mech as the first. Basically 300 pts / 2 tons.

[StalaggtIKE]

The damage and heat are perfect. However as others have said, SSRM2 can rock you harder than an AC20. Also, due to it's large size it crits way too easily. For such a large weapon that's made for brawling you would think that it could take a bit more of a beating.

[Gaan Cathal]

Elder Thorn, on 11 February 2013 - 04:31 PM, said:

In addition it would be nice to have more effect on smaller mechs, like knockdown or maybe alterate direction. So if i hit a fast mech from the side, it would be pushed sidewards a bit.

Insta-stripping (or close enough) the armour whatever torso compartment you happen to hit isn't enough for you? AC/20s work just fine against lights, thank you very much.

That said, those AC/20 flanks on Atlai/Atlases/Atlapodes always seem to pop pretty fast (when they have a '20 in them at least) so maybe it could do with a little toughening up somehow, 13-15 HP maybe?

[Gigastrike]

Well, I guess I'd like to see it not get destroyed instantly, but it's not really a weapon I think of needing buffed.

[Skadi]

It wouldnt be a AC/20 if they added damage... it would be a AC/25 or something stupid like that, which doesnt exsist.

[Elder Thorn]

Gaan Cathal, on 11 February 2013 - 04:56 PM, said:

Insta-stripping (or close enough) the armour whatever torso compartment you happen to hit isn't enough for you? AC/20s work just fine against lights, thank you very much.

That said, those AC/20 flanks on Atlai/Atlases/Atlapodes always seem to pop pretty fast (when they have a '20 in them at least) so maybe it could do with a little toughening up somehow, 13-15 HP maybe?

oh, i never said it doesn't work. However, i always liked how big canons had some impact on enemys in that other mysterious game with mechs you know. I just think it would be nice if not onle the view is shaken, but also the movement. Maybe not even on small mechs only - and i wasn't talking about lights only in the first place. Even an Atlas that took an AC/20 shell to the side could use some "adjustement" to deal with the force of the impact. Again: i am not saying that this thing is bad in any way except the fact, that it dies to fast.