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[SkyCake]

Quick impression for you...

http://www.youtube.c...e0ThZAjKtEKu-Nw

PPC's have never been so sweet

[Zphyr]

We will see, we will.

[JadePanther]

LOL YESSSS!

[Tennex]

they havent solved anything. the 3L is still overly powerful in the light mech arena

[SkyCake]

I don't feel this at all... anyways the point is this mech is not only no longer op imo, but is also finally getting its comeuppance, as variously articulated in the video

[Funkadelic Mayhem]

Tennex, on 20 February 2013 - 08:37 AM, said:

they havent solved anything. the 3L is still overly powerful in the light mech arena

wait... its op because in the hands of a good pilot can keep up with the other mech. You know like the other mech can completely kill a light in ONE HIT WITH FULL ARMOR! JFC get real every mech needs to have advantages and disadvantages. Learn them and maybe next time you log into the game look at the 3L and see just how low the back armor truly is.

Edited by Funkadelic Mayhem, 20 February 2013 - 11:26 AM.

[bloodnor]

I have not seen a massive change. I'm still racking up kills in my 3L and AH AH AH AH STAYING ALIVE STAYING ALIVE.

Edited by bloodnor, 20 February 2013 - 11:34 AM.

[K0M3D14N]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 20 February 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

wait... its op because in the hands of a good pilot can keep up with the other mech. You know like the other mech can completely kill a light in ONE HIT WITH FULL ARMOR! JFC get real every mech needs to have advantages and disadvantages. Learn them and maybe next time you log into the game look at the 3L and see just how low the back armor truly is.

In comparison with other Light 'Mechs, the 3L has NO disadvantages. You don't even have to aim to get kills with the damn thing. It's just acquire lock, circle strafe, right click and win. There need to be changes made to Streaks to fix the issues with both Raven 3Ls and COM-2Ds.

[Xeanth]

SkyCake, on 20 February 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

Quick impression for you...

http://www.youtube.c...e0ThZAjKtEKu-Nw

PPC's have never been so sweet

As I remember...It did not turn out so well for the person you quoted.

[Deamhan]

Lol ah no the Raven 3L w/ ECM is still very much OP. EMP effect hasn't been that big of a difference.

Love the movie. One of my favs.

RIP Brandon Lee

[nksharp]

SkyCake, on 20 February 2013 - 11:23 AM, said:

I don't feel this at all... anyways the point is this mech is not only no longer op imo, but is also finally getting its comeuppance, as variously articulated in the video

I wonder if the OP even plays the same game as everyone else...

[MechWarrior849305]

So, let me guess.
You pilot medium/heavy/assault mech, and use PPC to counter ECM on ravens 3L... For what reason? To have your SSRMs lock on? Ain't light mechs being killed with many other heavy weapons of heavy mechs, without even disrupting its electronic cover? Like AC20 or Gauss maybe? Even that PPC without countering ECM has great damage, especially for lights.
If you actually pilot somewhat like jenner with PPC, well, you are actually great mechwarrior to have ability to hit light, while moving at 150 kmph speeds. But, do you have place for streaks left? Doubt so.
So, PPC have advantage against all light mechs, with or without ECM. There is no need to specially point at 3L.

Edited by DuoAngel, 20 February 2013 - 12:02 PM.

[nksharp]

If OP plays an awesome I could play a spider and not be afraid of him :/

[Z0MBIE Y0SHI]

Those light pilots were doing it wrong; They clearly didn't have Netflix and torrents running while playing. That is the true secret to light mechz.

Edited by Z0MBIE Y0SHI, 20 February 2013 - 12:05 PM.

[Coryphee]

In my opinion the new matchmaking will improve the power of 3L... Taking an other light before start a game give you a chance to be the only one light versus 2 or 3 ennemies lights.... If they have only one 3L, you dead.

In the old matchmaking, if you were the only light in your team, you could win the game, even if the ennemi light was 3L...

This matchmaking downs the non-3L light survivability and viability...

[AlexEss]

Actually the -3L is a pretty weak mech... sure it is the top of the pops of the ravens but then again that is not saying much. In fact the only thing that makes it worth for most people is the combo of ECM and Streaks... In every other field it beaten by the rest of the pack.

And streaks + ECM is equally bad on any mech.

[nksharp]

Z0MBIE Y0SHI, on 20 February 2013 - 12:02 PM, said:

Those light pilots were doing it wrong; They clearly didn't have Netflix and torrents running while playing. That is the true secret to light mechz.

I ought to try that more often, I run 30 ping since I live an hour away from their servers

[ElLocoMarko]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 20 February 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

... completely kill a light in ONE HIT WITH FULL ARMOR! ...

He is afraid of splat cats in his light? I've been toying with splat cats and the only light that dies is one that makes a crossing pass ("joust"). That is just poor decision making...

When I run my cicada those medium lasers can dissect the splat from a very safe distance. If there were taunts I would use them...

Edited by ElLocoMarko, 20 February 2013 - 12:12 PM.

[Vodrin Thales]

Funkadelic Mayhem, on 20 February 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

wait... its op because in the hands of a good pilot can keep up with the other mech. You know like the other mech can completely kill a light in ONE HIT WITH FULL ARMOR! JFC get real every mech needs to have advantages and disadvantages. Learn them and maybe next time you log into the game look at the 3L and see just how low the back armor truly is.

The combination of ECM+streaks+best in class armor+150 KPH top end still give it a guaranteed 1v1 victory against another scout mech of any type. Some will claim this makes the 3L OP and they are not entirely wrong, but yes they can be one shotted by a sniper mech who shoots well.

ElLocoMarko, on 20 February 2013 - 12:12 PM, said:

He is afraid of splat cats in his light? I've been toying with splat cats and the only light that dies is one that makes a crossing pass ("joust"). That is just poor decision making...

When I run my cicada those medium lasers can dissect the splat from a very safe distance. If there were taunts I would use them...

Read his previous thread. He's complaining about a 6PPC stalker blowing out his side torso in one shot. Still not a big problem, and still doesn't mean the 3L is a bit too strong against other light mechs.

Edited by Vodrin Thales, 20 February 2013 - 12:15 PM.

[Baby Bear]

They won't stop complaining about Raven 3Ls until its nerfed so every mech is better than a Raven 3L. If you read up on the Raven you will find it is one of the most advanced Light Mechs of its time. The complaining will go on and on with the numerous other AntiRaven threads. Mostly Assault Pilots whose buddies left him alone to get picked off. Heh, I predict one thing will make lotta the Raven Op threads go away and that is when the Clan Mechs drop with SSRM6 launchers. If you are whining about getting pecked to death by a SSRM2 launcher then you are gonna really hate fast Clan mechs with dual SSRM6s smacking your backside. Then every slow IS mech pilot is gonna say Clan Light Mechs are OP and they should be nerfed. Sigh... Mount some large lasers already. Seen some veteran Assault Pilots leg Ravens and other lights without problem. Admittedly its a learned skill but I immediately recognize a pilot who knows what they are doing when they put their back to the wall rather than try to out turn me. Oh, and a veteran Jenner pilot is lethal too.