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[Lukoi Banacek]

Barg12, on 15 February 2013 - 07:51 PM, said:

This isn't the first time people have asked for the AH back, what gives you all the impression PGI will in fact return it?

Why not? They'd make some people happy and they'd get people buying $1.20 mechbays to grab em potentially. Win win....unless there's something imbalancing/unfair about the variant. It's not like they have to design or proof it again...it's already made right?

[Dexion]

Add me to the list. I'll go one further. I already have a Wang, I never buy Cbill mechs for MC... If the AH comes back, I'll buy it with MC as a Thank you to PGI for listening. I want my AC20+SRM medium back.

[CommandoBran]

The AH is too close to the YLW and PGI needs to make money from people buying hero 'mechs so they took out the AH.

[Bishop Steiner]

Dexion, on 15 February 2013 - 09:07 PM, said:

Add me to the list. I'll go one further. I already have a Wang, I never buy Cbill mechs for MC... If the AH comes back, I'll buy it with MC as a Thank you to PGI for listening. I want my AC20+SRM medium back.

I totally agree. I would buy it MC for the same reason. I just used to LOVE that Chassis. It was one of my primary Mechs in TT too.

[Tie Ma]

lets see where this goes. lol PGI likes to ignore problems hope they pan out.

it wont work with ECM but maybe people will forget about this. though it has been many months and still being brought up

[Lukoi Banacek]

CommandoBran, on 15 February 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

The AH is too close to the YLW and PGI needs to make money from people buying hero 'mechs so they took out the AH.

Yea and once the Wang sale is over, they can reintro this sucker and make more money off of mech bays.

[Op4blushift]

I wasn't around in CB, but I also would really like to see this mech in game. I did get a Wang in today's sale, but I'd probably still buy the AH and another mechbay if it came back.

[Diablobo]

CommandoBran, on 15 February 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

The AH is too close to the YLW and PGI needs to make money from people buying hero 'mechs so they took out the AH.

Exactly. PGI wouldn't be able to give away Wangs if we could buy the AH instead. The Wang is a POS. All they would have to do is put the missile slots in the Wang, and they would sell even more of them. As it is now, the Wang is not worth it, AC20 or not.

[Odin]

As much as I love my YLW now, I loved the AH back in closed beta. In fact, 'twas my favourite mech back then.
Can't blame them for taking it out though, they probably were just a little uncertain about the first Hero project.

If the little ****** comes back, I swear by my left eye, I'd buy it with MC. Supporting MWO and the lads at PGI is a privilege.
But make no mistake, those nasty srms do a lot more damage close upfront then any medium laser ....reckon, most folks wouldn't bother with the Wang any more once they are back in.




Odin

[Znail]

The Wamg is not horrible, but it is one of the more limited chassis when it comes to customability due to the very few hard points. Giving it some missile slot would help though.

[Odin]

On a second thought, the AH would eventually stand its own ground in serious 8vs8 drops.
Our brave YLW certainly manage and holds against average troops.




Odin

[One Medic Army]

I thought the AH was the worst Centurion variant back in Closed Beta.
Now I have seen the YLW I must recant.

Don't care of it comes back, but if it did I might at some point in the future (in a drunken stupor) purchase one to use.

P.S. I enjoy piloting my 9-A, 9-D, and 9-AL.

Edited by One Medic Army, 16 February 2013 - 01:37 AM.

[Kobold]

It never made sense to me to remove a mech variant in a game that was already short on mech variants.

The AH is distinct from the YLW: AH has no energy, YLW has no missiles.

People that wanted the Yen-Lo-Wang wanted it because it was Yen-Lo-Wang or because they wanted a medium mech with a cbill booster. The presence or absence of the AH would not have made a significant dent in the purchase of YLWs.

Consider how very similar to existing variants like the 9M the Pretty Baby is. Yet people still buy it. Increased sales of YLW compared to PB has more to due with the fact that YLW is YLW, not the fact that that you cannot otherwise mount an AC20 on an arm.

[Risko Vinsheen]

Could it be possible they're putting Yen-Lo-Wang on sale this weekend in an attempt to sell a few more of them before they reintroduce the AH?

I already bought my YLW a long while back and would likely purchase the AH and play both equally. I love my Centurions. I currently have YLW, AL, and D variants. I just need to buy the A to complete the set, AH would just give me one more of my favorite chassis to work towards.

[Khanahar]

CommandoBran, on 15 February 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

The AH is too close to the YLW and PGI needs to make money from people buying hero 'mechs so they took out the AH.

This is simply not true. The two chassis share the ability to mount an AC/20 (and the corresponding missing actuator), but differed in many other aspects:
-YLW faster
-YLW has better agility perks
-YLW has CT mounts for zombie-mode (AH only CN9 lacking such capability)

AND, most importantly of all, the hardpoint layouts are as different as any two variants of one 'mech are. As different as the K-2 is to the C-4 (very close analogy, in fact):

AH:
3B RA
2M LT

YLW:
2B RA
2E CT

The YLW is phenomenally bad at scout-hunting. The AH is great at it. The AH will benefit more from the MG buff. And so on.

Also, the CN9-AH would be the only 'mech in the game with Missile and Ballistic hardpoints but no Energy (and only one of two 'mechs to lack E hardpoints in the first place).

The AH was a very distinctive 'mech with a specialized role that should really make a reappearance.

[Monkey Bone]

I really don't know why they removed the AH. Sure it's close to the YLW, but more mechs is always >BETTER<.

It was such a stupid move to remove the mech.


And start spamming their facebook/twitter because they don't read the forums.

Edited by Jules Gonzales, 16 February 2013 - 03:49 AM.

[Joe3142]

I miss it too, quite liked that mech and it would be good to see it return, was alot of fun.

[Bishop Steiner]

Odin, on 16 February 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:

As much as I love my YLW now, I loved the AH back in closed beta. In fact, 'twas my favourite mech back then.
Can't blame them for taking it out though, they probably were just a little uncertain about the first Hero project.

If the little ****** comes back, I swear by my left eye, I'd buy it with MC. Supporting MWO and the lads at PGI is a privilege.
But make no mistake, those nasty srms do a lot more damage close upfront then any medium laser ....reckon, most folks wouldn't bother with the Wang any more once they are back in.




Odin

Wang does still have one advantage, in that the standard AH can't hit 100 kph. That is one of the saving graces of YLW. 100 kph BFG is fun!

Diablobo, on 16 February 2013 - 12:41 AM, said:

Exactly. PGI wouldn't be able to give away Wangs if we could buy the AH instead. The Wang is a POS. All they would have to do is put the missile slots in the Wang, and they would sell even more of them. As it is now, the Wang is not worth it, AC20 or not.

Just because YOU have Wang issues, doesn't mean Wang = Suck. My Wang has far too many 4+ Kill/600+ damage matches, which kind of argues against that. When my Wang fires it's payload into your face, it's lights out!

[Bishop Steiner]

One Medic Army, on 16 February 2013 - 01:37 AM, said:

I thought the AH was the worst Centurion variant back in Closed Beta.
Now I have seen the YLW I must recant.

Don't care of it comes back, but if it did I might at some point in the future (in a drunken stupor) purchase one to use.

P.S. I enjoy piloting my 9-A, 9-D, and 9-AL.

Yeah, but "prevailing wisdom" in CB was that the AC/20 sucked and everything hadda has a Gauss Rifle. How times have changed. (And for those of us who knew how to judge a lead and aim, we always knew the AC/20 was great. Nothing says HELLO! better than timing an Assault Mechs cooldown to step around a corner and plant an AC/20 round through their cockpit!

[Mao of DC]

CommandoBran, on 15 February 2013 - 09:10 PM, said:

The AH is too close to the YLW and PGI needs to make money from people buying hero 'mechs so they took out the AH.

Ahh but there is the rub. The YLW still gives 30% more Cbills that way you can have the backstabber Cent AND more Cbills. I guess my point is if you like playing that type of mech alot getting the YLW is totally worth it. If they are unsure if they like playing that way it give them a chance to try it out without feeling like they got boned on a MC deal.