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#1 BirdToes

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:07 AM

From the patch notes:

- The LB10-X has a 14% increased chance to crit once, an 8% increased chance to crit twice, and a 3% increased chance to crit 3 times.
- When the LB10-X crits, it will deal 2.0x the amount of normal damage from 1 'pellet' to an internal item.
- The LB10-X crit damage is 1.0 x 2.0 = 2.0 per crit. Max crit of 3 times = 6.0.

Apply those numbers to the flowchart below (from: http://mwowiki.org/w...-_A_Brief_Guide):

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I believe the "1x Crit", "2x Crit", and "3x Crit" numbers near the bottom are updated to 39%, 22%, and 6% respectively. That translates to the Crit Success chance updated from 42% to 67%.

#2 Nathan Foxbane

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:11 AM

Still on a super lucky hit you have the potential to crit for a whopping 60 HP. That is insane and awesome.

#3 Norris J Packard

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:13 AM

Still terrible.

#4 Sprouticus

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:14 AM

Good numbers. Thanks.

#5 HighlandCoo

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:15 AM

Im looking forward to fitting dual LBX on my ilya again ;)

#6 DocBach

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:16 AM

Give it the option to carry slugs to get through the armor first, then this will be a great system for critical hitting equipment.

#7 Norris J Packard

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:17 AM

View PostDocBach, on 19 February 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

Give it the option to carry slugs to get through the armor first, then this will be a great system for critical hitting equipment.


Exactly.

#8 Redshift2k5

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:18 AM

View PostNathan Foxbane, on 19 February 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

Still on a super lucky hit you have the potential to crit for a whopping 60 HP. That is insane and awesome.


An AC-20 could crit for 60. But no item has more than 10 health so it's all wasted damage (the AC-20 itself has 18 health so it dies to a 1x crit from an AC-20). The crit damage does not apply to the internals, only to contents of the section.

#9 Mr Mantis

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:18 AM

lbx 10 for the crit seeker who has way too much tonnage left. Can't wait to put some mg on a flea though (3 months away i might get a cicada).

#10 MiG77

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:18 AM

View PostNathan Foxbane, on 19 February 2013 - 11:11 AM, said:

Still on a super lucky hit you have the potential to crit for a whopping 60 HP. That is insane and awesome.


But it is only component damage. Location still take same amount of damage (= 10 if all pellets hit same location)

It means that on theory (all pellets crit 6p damage), lbx can destroy at max 5 different 10hp components with single shot.

Edited by MiG77, 19 February 2013 - 11:25 AM.


#11 HighlandCoo

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:19 AM

Oooo a cicada! Or perhaps a 3MG 3LL Ilya lol!

#12 a rabid chihuahua

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:20 AM

time to pull out he 3x LBX-10'r Ilya again and have some runs with her.

#13 BirdToes

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:38 AM

View PostRedshift2k5, on 19 February 2013 - 11:18 AM, said:

An AC-20 could crit for 60. But no item has more than 10 health so it's all wasted damage (the AC-20 itself has 18 health so it dies to a 1x crit from an AC-20). The crit damage does not apply to the internals, only to contents of the section.

But an LBX-10 critical applies 10 separate crits to the internals. That includes weapons, electronics, heatsinks, ammo. A super lucky LBX-10 crit of 60 damage will probably destroy almost everything in the hit location that can take damage.

#14 Khobai

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:43 AM

LB/10X is still bad but any buff to it is a step in the right direction.

LB/10X still needs its firing pattern changed from a cone to a cylinder so it doesn't lose accuracy at range.

#15 De La Fresniere

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:51 AM

Heh, at least now it'll crit pretty well. Before today it was really, really bad at breaking anything via crits.

However, the spread still make it non-viable in any situation except very close-range brawling. That's just sad considering its weight and the fact that it's the most expensive weapon in the game.

#16 Jungle Rhino

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:54 AM

LB X is still fail.

#17 Agent 0 Fortune

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:57 AM

Does anyone know what the base crit chance is?

I'm not sure if these "crit seeking" weapons are that viable, most of the time I lose a torso/limb before I ever lose a weapon. On the other hand if you are trying to kill someone with an LB10x, MG, or Flamer, I can see how it would be much easier to kill them with a ammo explosion than actual damage.

I also think that Engines need 30 damage points, 3x the ammount of a standard critical slot.

#18 Pygar

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

Now I'm really excited about the patch...I thought they already buffed it.

#19 BlackSquirrel

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:59 AM

View PostHighlandCoo, on 19 February 2013 - 11:15 AM, said:

Im looking forward to fitting dual LBX on my ilya again ;)


That's called 'the finisher" Wait nvm "The kill stealer"

#20 Viper69

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Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:02 PM

View PostBlackSquirrel, on 19 February 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:


That's called 'the finisher" Wait nvm "The kill stealer"


Thought you were going to say "The happy Ending"





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